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Viking Chat / Re: Sunday signing
« Last post by Move DRFC on Today at 12:32:59 am »
Anyone actually know what Clifton's best position is? Is his profile basically a hard working centre mid?
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Off Topic / Re: Predicting the election result.
« Last post by Bentley Bullet on Today at 12:14:30 am »
Labour will set out its manifesto and go about trying to implement it, as all Governments do.

People can then assess whether they think it good or bad in an election in 5 years time. If Labour turn out to have deceived people, the people can vote for change.

The Brexit vote was won on a bed of straight out lies and deception about how it would be implemented and what the consequences would be. How do we hold people responsible for that, now the Liar In Chief has moved on to a 100k per month job peddling lies in the papers. Which of course is how he started.
Na. The Brexit referendum question was: Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

1) Remain a member of the European Union

2) Leave the European Union
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Off Topic / Re: Predicting the election result.
« Last post by Bentley Bullet on Today at 12:00:42 am »
But the Tories were forced to change, because of COVID and the Ukraine invasion! Surely, be Christ that was a credible explanation!

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Off Topic / Re: Predicting the election result.
« Last post by BillyStubbsTears on June 02, 2024, 11:57:59 pm »
Labour will set out its manifesto and go about trying to implement it, as all Governments do.

People can then assess whether they think it good or bad in an election in 5 years time. If Labour turn out to have deceived people, the people can vote for change.

The Brexit vote was won on a bed of straight out lies and deception about how it would be implemented and what the consequences would be. How do we hold people responsible for that, now the Liar In Chief has moved on to a 100k per month job peddling lies in the papers. Which of course is how he started.
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Off Topic / Re: Predicting the election result.
« Last post by IDM on June 02, 2024, 11:49:35 pm »
So, what Labour hoped to do in 2020 will be carried out after they gain power in July?

Not necessarily if they’ve been forced to change.

But you would expect them to implement when in government what they say now that they would do.  Somethings might not work out but would there be a credible explanation at the time?  More likely with Labour than with the Tories.

What point are you actually trying to make here.?

I’m not seeing owt about Starmer being a huge political liar..  more of a realist.  I expect he will make mistakes too, as they all do.
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Off Topic / Re: Predicting the election result.
« Last post by Bentley Bullet on June 02, 2024, 11:43:43 pm »
So, what Labour hoped to do in 2020 will be carried out after they gain power in July?
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Off Topic / Re: Predicting the election result.
« Last post by IDM on June 02, 2024, 11:38:53 pm »
Of course it did, so it makes sense that what Labour hoped to do in 2020 isn’t all affordable now??

They usually get panned by folks saying they can’t pay for what they promise.  Now they say they won’t make promises they can’t fund, or they change because of finances.

Where’s the lies.??

And by the way, I said a changing financial situation, not what those changes were.
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Off Topic / Re: Predicting the election result.
« Last post by Bentley Bullet on June 02, 2024, 11:34:57 pm »
So don't you think COVID and the invasion of Ukraine changed the country's financial situation?
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Off Topic / Re: RIP Rob Burrow
« Last post by Sprotyrover on June 02, 2024, 11:27:37 pm »
Rest in Peace Rob ,a true legend!
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Off Topic / Re: Predicting the election result.
« Last post by IDM on June 02, 2024, 11:26:57 pm »
So most of that talks about changes to policies set out 4 years ago, and the reason for most of the subsequent changes is a reaction to the changing financial situation.  In simple terms, Labour would inherit a situation where they can’t afford to do what they ideally wanted to, 4 years before.

Would you rather they made promises based on a less than credible financial outlook?

Are they reacting to a changing situation, or just breaking promises?
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