Ferguson resigned

[selby]

  We might just get a good forward back in Mandeville, and a couple of youg defenders who he treated pretty badly when they were looking like good prospects.

[PDX_Rover]

I'm surprised but not, if that makes sense. I didn't mind DF. However, I didn't 100% buy into him. He obviously has had some lower league success and understands the game, but there's something missing from his management style. Not sure exactly what it is, but he's certainly not his Dad. He doesn't have 'it' as a manager, but he was an improvement on Dickov. He's certainly moved the club forwards in structure I think, even if we are back where we were when he came in in terms of league position.

We played some nice stuff. We played some f**king awful stuff. He didn't seem to be able to stick to a system and some of his decisions, playing players out of position a hell of a lot, were bizarre. And every season he lost his way towards the end of the season. Every season.

I'm actually excited to see what happens next. I certainly don't believe our board is tight. And I don't agree all this b*llocks about them "not being football people" - utter crap. RTID

[dickos1]

I agree it’s not necessarily going to be a bad thing, but he wouldn’t leave for no reason and he wouldn’t say he was left with no alternative. That’s what’s concerning me, we’ve got no money to bring in any decent players

Any link to the frightening rumour you heard?

Maybe yeah.
I was told then that the club had to take out a loan because of a cash flow shortage due to season ticket sales not being as good as they’d projected.

More rubbish Dickos, can you seriously imagine Terry Bramall having to take out a loan??

More rubbish 😂

The club needed the loan not brammal of course.
You keep saying it’s all rubbish but the things that are happening don’t seem to back it up.

Wouldn't be a smart business move though? If the club needed it wouldn't Brammall loan us it then the interest goes to him, not some bank or whatever.

Yes, the loan would probably have come from brammal

Until the last few years he'd been loaning us money for years, along with JR and DW. Nobody made a big deal back then.

I know, but having to do it unexpectedly cause of poor cash flow might be more of an issue.

[silent majority]

I agree it’s not necessarily going to be a bad thing, but he wouldn’t leave for no reason and he wouldn’t say he was left with no alternative. That’s what’s concerning me, we’ve got no money to bring in any decent players

Any link to the frightening rumour you heard?

Maybe yeah.
I was told then that the club had to take out a loan because of a cash flow shortage due to season ticket sales not being as good as they’d projected.

More rubbish Dickos, can you seriously imagine Terry Bramall having to take out a loan??

More rubbish 😂

The club needed the loan not brammal of course.
You keep saying it’s all rubbish but the things that are happening don’t seem to back it up.

Wouldn't be a smart business move though? If the club needed it wouldn't Brammall loan us it then the interest goes to him, not some bank or whatever.

TB invests countless millions to DRFC, he's never taken anything out or charged a single penny in interest. Its just a ludicrous suggestion that the club would need a loan, commercial or otherwise, to cover a lack of income in ST sales. Especially since ST sales exceeded expectations.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Valid point though. At least kongolo won't be back.....

[Copps is Magic]

Maybe Fergie knows he can't get decent enough results without a large budget because of his own limitations as a manager. Now because the Board wont give him that large budget he needs to be successful he has no alternative but to resign to save face. Let's be honest we know & the Board knows that there are managers out there that don't need huge budgets to get promotions at this level.
So maybe it's just a case of Fergie knowing he is not good enough to get where the Board wants without spending shed loads of cash!

Again, incredible that it's Darren Ferguson, Doncaster Rovers' manager of all people, to suddenly break the mold of a game completely corrupted by money and self interest. Almost impossible to believe really.

[drfchound]

I'm surprised but not, if that makes sense. I didn't mind DF. However, I didn't 100% buy into him. He obviously has had some lower league success and understands the game, but there's something missing from his management style. Not sure exactly what it is, but he's certainly not his Dad. He doesn't have 'it' as a manager, but he was an improvement on Dickov. He's certainly moved the club forwards in structure I think, even if we are back where we were when he came in in terms of league position.

We played some nice stuff. We played some f**king awful stuff. He didn't seem to be able to stick to a system and some of his decisions, playing players out of position a hell of a lot, were bizarre. And every season he lost his way towards the end of the season. Every season.

I'm actually excited to see what happens next. I certainly don't believe our board is tight. And I don't agree all this b*llocks about them "not being football people" - utter crap. RTID

Crikey PDX, how high is that fence you are sitting on.

[silent majority]

I agree it’s not necessarily going to be a bad thing, but he wouldn’t leave for no reason and he wouldn’t say he was left with no alternative. That’s what’s concerning me, we’ve got no money to bring in any decent players

Any link to the frightening rumour you heard?

Maybe yeah.
I was told then that the club had to take out a loan because of a cash flow shortage due to season ticket sales not being as good as they’d projected.

More rubbish Dickos, can you seriously imagine Terry Bramall having to take out a loan??

More rubbish 😂

The club needed the loan not brammal of course.
You keep saying it’s all rubbish but the things that are happening don’t seem to back it up.

Wouldn't be a smart business move though? If the club needed it wouldn't Brammall loan us it then the interest goes to him, not some bank or whatever.

Yes, the loan would probably have come from brammal

Until the last few years he'd been loaning us money for years, along with JR and DW. Nobody made a big deal back then.

He doesn't loan the club money. He gives his money away, a significant difference.

[selby]

  Could be Barnsley have tapped him up, it will not be the first time they have raided us, and they may splash the money about to attract him.
  If he  does go anywhere I think we can get ready for a raid on Marquis.
  I wonder if the back room staff he has brought in will go with him, what we don,t want is them going at the start, or just after the start of next season.

[since-1969]

It’s always been the worst part of the year ,  with Player speculation etc . Add to this Fergie family situation , our poor over all form , injuries and players in high wages and not even playing for the club , it would hard for any board member to see any vertue in keeping the status quo .

[redarmi66]

Fergie jr is a wealthy man. He has choices. He owns a very sucessful business outside of football with his dad. The business is worth millions.

[since-1969]

So gives up so he can waist his time elsewhere?

[RoversAlias]

I'm baffled to be honest, odd timing as well. It doesn't come across well as unless he ends up at another club in the next few days (which of course is entirely possible) then it must be about the man and the board not seeing eye-to-eye on the playing budget.

I get people saying it's not necessarily a bad thing because he's not that good a manager, he's definitely not irreplaceable or anything. But it's more upheaval, I'd really like some long-term stability in terms of our strategy and planning. Maybe I was spoiled by the 5 odd years of SOD but it does annoy me a bit. We got ourselves in a right state through the Saunders and Dickov eras and then got relegated to League Two necessitating another total revamp, now we finally have two years of solid progression and a coherent transfer/development strategy and the manager leaves out of nowhere.

So I hope the club act quickly, get a sensible replacement in and move to reassure all of us lot that there's no reason to be alarmed. Because we aren't going to get near to achieving that plan to be in the Championship by 2022 if we don't invest in improving the playing squad.

[PDX_Rover]

If it didn't point to something wider going on, I wouldn't be all that bothered. Decent manager and I'd have been happy for him to stay but I didn't feel he was ever getting more out of the team than the sum of its parts, and started to get tired of him only having two gameplans and subsequently running out of ideas when neither of them worked.

Interesting times. Not going to cast doom over the situation just yet but it will be interesting to see which way this plays out.

100% agree Pib. Spot on.

[Sprotyrover]

I would hope we can sign a competent manager who can get us promoted without taking the country into another recession.

[donny dave]

If you read the statement on the website it sounds more like mutual concent.

[dickos1]

At the end of the day, we’re all guessing, Martin keeps saying everything is fine, we’re going to replace the high earners we’re not cutting the Budget. Others like myself are worried, but only way we’re gonna know is by waiting and seeing what happens. If we appoint a redfearn or a coppinger and sign inexperienced players we will know why Ferguson left. If we sign experienced quality league one players and appoint a tidsdale then we will know there is no issue with the board

[drfchound]

I'm baffled to be honest, odd timing as well. It doesn't come across well as unless he ends up at another club in the next few days (which of course is entirely possible) then it must be about the man and the board not seeing eye-to-eye on the playing budget.

I get people saying it's not necessarily a bad thing because he's not that good a manager, he's definitely not irreplaceable or anything. But it's more upheaval, I'd really like some long-term stability in terms of our strategy and planning. Maybe I was spoiled by the 5 odd years of SOD but it does annoy me a bit. We got ourselves in a right state through the Saunders and Dickov eras and then got relegated to League Two necessitating another total revamp, now we finally have two years of solid progression and a coherent transfer/development strategy and the manager leaves out of nowhere.

So I hope the club act quickly, get a sensible replacement in and move to reassure all of us lot that there's no reason to be alarmed. Because we aren't going to get near to achieving that plan to be in the Championship by 2022 if we don't invest in improving the playing squad.

RA, we aren’t really much further forward than when Ferguson joined us though.
Maybe a few places on the league ladder.

[Jonathan]

I get the logic behind saying we need to take the time to make the right appointment. But I hope we don’t waste too much time inviting applications, shortlisting and interviewing while other clubs are getting their squads together. There a window that means we needn’t panic, but it’s not a big window. Pre season isn’t far away. We should be approaching desirable candidates not just waiting on applications.

[dickos1]

Maybe not on the pitch but it’s common knowledge how much the club has moved forward under Ferguson.

[steve@dcfd]

The club have already issued a statement and an update will follow in the next 24 hours.

But for all those who are blaming the playing budget for this would be wrong. There has been no cost cutting with the playing staff and the club confirmed that to the supporters board and with myself.

I have a meeting scheduled with Gavin tomorrow, and we will discuss this again.

Ask Gavin
Will the new manager be told about the clubs five year plan. Next year is year 3 plan so will he be told that the club expects him to achieve that plan.
Will he  be given the funds to achieve that.
Will the new manager have promotion especially from league 1 on his CV.
Will we see quality players signed to ensure progression this season.
Will we let top players leave to give funds to get new players.

[swintonrover]

I reckon the only reason he's stayed as long as he has is because of his Dad. If Sir Alex hadn't been taken ill before the last game of the season, he would have walked sooner. These rumours have been swilling since then.

[Filo]

Anyone else find it strange that the news broke on the LMA website first, and also the fact that we've heard nothing from Fergie for weeks, I wonder if this happened some time ago?

[StocksArmy]

How many players did DF give new contracts to and the board ended up paying up their contracts? I just wonder after looking at some of the dross he brought in this season if they lost faith. I certainly did.

[PDX_Rover]

Bloody hell, anyone want to buy some razor blades?

The news is half an hour old. Let's wait till the club make their statement. Everyone is jumping in based on probably less than half the story.

Personally, I'm not too fussed to see him leave. I think he did a job, got us moving forward again, but his style of play had its limitations and his substitutions consistently baffled me. This is now an opportunity to appoint the right man to take us to the next level.

Agree totally Rob. He moved us forwards but had some pretty big limitations as a manager IMO.

[RoversAlias]

I'm baffled to be honest, odd timing as well. It doesn't come across well as unless he ends up at another club in the next few days (which of course is entirely possible) then it must be about the man and the board not seeing eye-to-eye on the playing budget.

I get people saying it's not necessarily a bad thing because he's not that good a manager, he's definitely not irreplaceable or anything. But it's more upheaval, I'd really like some long-term stability in terms of our strategy and planning. Maybe I was spoiled by the 5 odd years of SOD but it does annoy me a bit. We got ourselves in a right state through the Saunders and Dickov eras and then got relegated to League Two necessitating another total revamp, now we finally have two years of solid progression and a coherent transfer/development strategy and the manager leaves out of nowhere.

So I hope the club act quickly, get a sensible replacement in and move to reassure all of us lot that there's no reason to be alarmed. Because we aren't going to get near to achieving that plan to be in the Championship by 2022 if we don't invest in improving the playing squad.

RA, we aren’t really much further forward than when Ferguson joined us though.
Maybe a few places on the league ladder.

This is very true Hound. However there's no denying that we've gone forward both years since relegation to League 2 which was certainly not a given at the time.  I remember dropping down to that level and thinking "we might be here a while now".

[MachoMadness]

My feelings seem to be the same as everyone else's. Not arsed about Fergie. In fact I was about 60-40 in favour of him going anyway. However him leaving after announcing the retained list and everything is a pain. I hear SCWK is available though, got an eye for a player that lad.

[drfchound]

Maybe not on the pitch but it’s common knowledge how much the club has moved forward under Ferguson.

Agreed mate but we all know that what happens on the pitch is what brings the supporters in.
What goes on behind the scenes is not really important to the floating fans.

[PDX_Rover]

I'm surprised but not, if that makes sense. I didn't mind DF. However, I didn't 100% buy into him. He obviously has had some lower league success and understands the game, but there's something missing from his management style. Not sure exactly what it is, but he's certainly not his Dad. He doesn't have 'it' as a manager, but he was an improvement on Dickov. He's certainly moved the club forwards in structure I think, even if we are back where we were when he came in in terms of league position.

We played some nice stuff. We played some f**king awful stuff. He didn't seem to be able to stick to a system and some of his decisions, playing players out of position a hell of a lot, were bizarre. And every season he lost his way towards the end of the season. Every season.

I'm actually excited to see what happens next. I certainly don't believe our board is tight. And I don't agree all this b*llocks about them "not being football people" - utter crap. RTID

Crikey PDX, how high is that fence you are sitting on.

I have mixed feelings about Fergie. I think many do. He was the manager and had my support but there was something always a bit off IMO. Just how I feel. Ambivalent is the word.

[steve@dcfd]

Anyone else find it strange that the news broke on the LMA website first, and also the fact that we've heard nothing from Fergie for weeks, I wonder if this happened some time ago?

Ask Martin he will discuss this when he see Gavin and be able to tell you when the decision was made.