Jeremy Clarkson should be sacked!

[MrFrost]

Because I find him funny means i'm a Kitson?

It's one of the reasons.

Hark at the keyboard warrior. Surprising how BST only ever comes out of his cave to dish out abuse to those who don't agree with his politics.

[vaya]

It didn't surprise me tbh, something typical that Clarkson would say, depends on your sense of humour.

Ask yourself this: Would you rather it affected your pension? Or your Sons/daughters/grandchildren's pension? This is whole point, future generations shouldn't be punished for what this generation has done, and had Labour been open we may not be bearing the blame so much.

As for the topic, there is as much public debt as their is private debt, we can't keep spending and hoping it will all go away, and we can't cut the private sector anymore if we have any hope of growth returning. Therefore we must try and make sacrifices elsewhere, or would you rather the government add 50p to a litre of fuel to make the money?

It's all fine and dandy saying \"Tory tw*ts this and tory scum\" but they stood on an election platform to cut back NOW and save later, and they are delivering, no matter which way you look at it, the public sector pensions is one of the only areas that can be decreased without severly damaging that sector.

Yes I'm a tory, but that doesn't mean I agree with everything they do, tbf I don't, but I understand why, I'd rather this generation pay for it then the future generation.

1) They're not delivering. It's not cut now and save later, its cut now and cost later. Borrowing's now projected to go up from what both what the Coalition initially forecast, and what the previous administration forecast. They're not going to meet their own target of reducing the debt by the end of the parliament, because...

2)..despite everyone telling them what would happen if they did, they've cut too hard and it's stagnated growth....

3)..which means its not going to effect my granchildren's or children's pensions, its going to effect their lives and jobs. Household income's actually going to keep dropping over the coming years.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Because I find him funny means i'm a Kitson?

It's one of the reasons.

Hark at the keyboard warrior. Surprising how BST only ever comes out of his cave to dish out abuse to those who don't agree with his politics.

Wind your neck in. I was dabbling in Clarksonesque humour. I thought you found that sort of thing funny?

[MrFrost]

Because I find him funny means i'm a Kitson?

It's one of the reasons.

Hark at the keyboard warrior. Surprising how BST only ever comes out of his cave to dish out abuse to those who don't agree with his politics.

Wind your neck in. I was dabbling in Clarksonesque humour. I thought you found that sort of thing funny?

I laughed. I just didn't want you to see the benefit.

[DRFC-PERKINS]

\"I think they (the strikes) have been fantastic. Absolutely. London today has just been empty. Everybody stayed at home, you can whizz about, restaurants are empty,\" he said.
\"It's also like being back in the 70s. It makes me feel at home somehow,\" said the Top Gear presenter, before adding: \"But we have to balance this though, because this is the BBC\" and went on: \"Frankly, I'd have them all shot. I would take them outside and execute them in front of their families. I mean, how dare they go on strike when they have these gilt-edged pensions that are going to be guaranteed while the rest of us have to work for a living?\"
When the presenters pointed out that these were Clarkson's personal views, he said: \"They're not. I've just given two views for you.\"

Thats what he said, he was clearly being sarcastic, not like the british public to be brainwashed into jumping on the bandwagon of hating someone for something that doesn't really affect anything.

[sedwardsdrfc]

this is why we are a shit country people cant say any thing for fear of d**kheads complaining and sending the leagel and i bet most people who wernt on strike thougt the same as him anyway as bad as f**king gipos

[vaya]

this is why we are a shit country people cant say any thing for fear of d**kheads complaining and sending the leagel and i bet most people who wernt on strike thougt the same as him anyway as bad as f**king gipos

I agree - you still can't spell or type.

[MrFrost]

this is why we are a shit country people cant say any thing for fear of d**kheads complaining and sending the leagel and i bet most people who wernt on strike thougt the same as him anyway as bad as f**king gipos

I agree - you still can't spell or type.

And that matters how?

[vaya]

this is why we are a shit country people cant say any thing for fear of d**kheads complaining and sending the leagel and i bet most people who wernt on strike thougt the same as him anyway as bad as f**king gipos

I agree - you still can't spell or type.

And that matters how?

Doesn't - I just felt like saying something without people complaining or sending the leagel.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Been thinking about Clarkson (it beats contemplating tomorrow's score...)

I reckon it's all down to his lack of buttocks. My grandad always said to me: Never trust a slack arsed bas**rd. He was right. Here's my theory.

Clarkson's lack of buttocks points to a chronic lack of capability in the physical act of love. He can't thrust.

Now, realise that and everything falls into place. He is full of self-loathing and internal despair. So, in a very Freudian way, he does what all impotents do - he sublimates his natural carnal desires and gets obsessed about cars as a cock substitute.

And he takes his self loathing out on others by constantly feeling the need to bully and belittle people. It's so obvious that I feel sorry for him. If only he had a proper, firm, athletic, manly arse (like mine for example), he'd be at peace with the world.

Instead, he's a slack arsed bas**rd, serving up shit for other slack arsed bas**rds.

[Muttley]

this is why we are a shit country people cant say any thing for fear of d**kheads complaining and sending the leagel and i bet most people who wernt on strike thougt the same as him anyway as bad as f**king gipos

I agree - you still can't spell or type.

And that matters how?

One of the shit things about this country is the illiterate, workshy, chavvy underclass that has developed in the last decade.

Mr Sedward will find spelling will matter a great deal when he's competing in the job market with Eastern Europeans who have a better grasp of the English language than he has.

[donnyjay]

How to run a tabloid.

One - Take a famous person's quote out of context. (see Gervais, Carr, Clarkson etc)

Two - Give update on number of complaints.

Three - Scour the internet for outrage from people who have never liked person anyway and have been waiting for the opportunity to call for their resignation.

Four - Report that victim of remark is 'taking legal advice' or 'threatening to sue'.

Five - Give new update on number of complaints which is rising due to you flogging the story like a dead horse.

Six - Wait for next mug to put his/her foot in it.

Just because Clarkson's a t**t it doesn't make this a newsworthy story.

And while I'm at it, stop printing fecking stories about a child who has been suspended from school because of their haircut/earrings/dress sense. Complete with picture of mother & child both looking glum whilst she bangs on about how this is hurting her little lamb's education.

[Dickie Dido]

Just because Clarkson's a t**t it doesn't make this a newsworthy story.


Just the one line there that kept you on the side of BST.....well done!

[Mr Brightside]

I think the nation's divided on this one, some people consider him a t**t for what he said and the rest who agreed with his comments think he's a t**t for apologising and not having the b*llocks to stand by his comments.

[donnyjay]

Just because Clarkson's a t**t it doesn't make this a newsworthy story.


Just the one line there that kept you on the side of BST.....well done!

Does this mean you think I'm in some sort of BST led clique you hinted at on the previous page?
Looking through my previous posts I can't see it so would you please provide some links?

Thanks in advance.

[RobTheRover]

Six - Wait for next mug to put his/her foot in it.

Oops. Step forward Mr Clarkson again re: selfish suicides

[cas rover]

made me chuckle too as it had to be tongue in cheek
and if anything it will keep the strike and its reasons in the press for far longer than the reports of one days strike
don`t get why he mentioned the suicide though as he has probably commited one now

[madmick50]

His views may be put across in a controversial manner but I bet the majority of private workers agree with the underlying point.
Most but not all public workers earn above the national average, and have a huge pension.
I like many others earn below the national average and to get a pension the same as an average payed nurse I would have to pay around £700 per month from the age of 25!
Yesterday I had to pay for a child minder, money I do not have! Do I not pay for food or miss a mortgage payment?
Never mind at least you'll have a decent retirement. bas**rds.

My wife has got one of these pensions and she is very grateful for it.

[RobTheRover]

Johnny Opposite strikes again.

[donnyjay]

OK so he's said a couple of things this week he probably shouldn't have. Despite coming across as a bit of a t**t and having views that a lot of people find objectionable, I think he can be entertaining.

I'll let you make your own minds up as to whether I'm on about Clarkson or MadMick.

[vaya]

Couldn't agree more. Those in the public sector with their cushy jobs, brilliant holidays and excellent sick pay entitlement don't know they are born. My wife has worked in the private sector and is currently working in the public sector and she can't believe how easy the job is and how lazy the public sector workers are.

There are at least 2 public sector workers for every one private sector worker in the real world. How they've got the cheek to complain about their gold plated pensions is totally beyond me.
 
My wife has got one of these gold plated pensions and we both agree that it is daylight robbery of the private sector. All you in the private sector are being taken for mugs big time.
 
How can it be right that the police can retire after 30 years on an amazing pension when they have only contributed about 10% of the value of the pension? They've got the cheek to expect people in the private sector who've got no pensions to keep paying tax to fund their scheme the robbers.
 
It's time the private sector said to all these lazy public sector people get a grip and stop moaning about your brilliant pensions. Give me a gun and I'll be stood right next to Jeremy mowing them down.



I assume both you and your wife are standing by the courage of your convictions and refusing to take her pension?

Might see a bit hypocrital otherwise.

[madmick50]

I assume both you and your wife are standing by the courage of your convictions and refusing to take her pension?

No way. I'm looking forward to getting some of my tax back.

[vaya]

Indeed. Doesn't weaken your arguement at all.

Not a bit.

[madmick50]

I just wish that some of the people in the public sector would own up (like my wife has done) and say ' Thank you'.

[streatham dave]

Madmick I'm not sure you can handle the truth but lets live in hope. I pay over £200 a month for my pension. From April it will be over £300 if the government gets its way. I have had a pay freeze for the last two years and apparently will get no more than 1%(and could be less) per year for the next 4 years. The way my pension is calculated will also change so that I get less. As a teacher I can retire(on a much reduced pension) at 60 or get a full pension (linked to number of years I have been teaching)at 65. The government keep on about life expectancy going up but they will never tell you that this is not the case with teachers. A teacher who retires at 60 has an average life expectancy. A teacher who retires at 65 on average dies at 68. They want teachers to carry on working until 68. Well that's a very clever way to ensure you never have to pay out. Do you want someone teaching your kids or grandchildren at 68 anyway? Also older public sector workers in jobs will block younger getting jobs thus increasing youth unemployment.  A settlement was reached in 2007 that was both fair to the public and to the public sector. When you take inflation into consideration 48 Billion more has been paid into the teachers pension scheme since it started than has ever been taken out. The pension raid is nothing more than a stealth tax. All the public sector pensions with the exception of the armed forces pension are fully funded.Then again I don't begrudge the pensions our brave armed forces get. Times are hard but the current government tells one lie after another. Teachers can receive a full pension after 30-40 years depending on when they started teaching as long as they are also retirement age. MP's get a full pension after 15 years not to mention various other perks.Are we truly all in this together? If the MP's accepted what they are offering me I would agree reluctantly to what is being suggested. Yes teachers do get lots of holidays but what you don't realise is we only get paid for the days we teach and that pay is then averaged out through the year.Besides which I work through most of mine (with the general exception of the summer holidays). I am also up most days well past midnight marking and planning. The Government could easily raise the money that is needed by cutting over a longer period of time and by tightening up on tax avoidance of the mega rich. Also remember that bankers got us into this mess and have a certain moral responsibility to get us out. Try looking at this website http://robinhoodtax.org/      It is easier for the Government just to target middle Britain- the nurses and teachers who they didn't think would strike. The pay in the public sector in general does not match up with professionals in the private sector. A decent pension is seen as a trade off for accepting lower annual pay when negotiations take place. Remember your roots. I'd rather strike for my rights than be a scab. Anyway although I could go on I think I've written enough.

[vaya]

I just wish that some of the people in the public sector would own up (like my wife has done) and say ' Thank you all you mugs in the private sector for guaranteeing us a very happy, wealthy retirement. I realise that you probably don't have a pension or if you do it is a very poor one due to having to subsidise our scheme.'

Sadly Mick, you're barking up the wrong tree on this one trying to get a bite. I might try to be annoyed if I actually thought you meant what said, you didn’t make ‘facts’ up, and hadn’t just been trolling threads to provoke a reaction seeing as we won yesterday and you’ve nothing to bang on about on that front.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I just wish that some of the people in the public sector would own up (like my wife has done) and say ' Thank you all you mugs in the private sector for guaranteeing us a very happy, wealthy retirement. I realise that you probably don't have a pension or if you do it is a very poor one due to having to subsidise our scheme.'

And. And. And!
What's the last time a teacher managed a shot on target for us? Eh? Eh?

[grayx]

I just wish that some of the people in the public sector would own up (like my wife has done) and say ' Thank you all you mugs in the private sector for guaranteeing us a very happy, wealthy retirement. I realise that you probably don't have a pension or if you do it is a very poor one due to having to subsidise our scheme.'

God you talk shite.

[RobTheRover]

I'm. Suprised it took you so long to come to that conclusion grayx.

[madmick50]

Madmick I'm not sure you can handle the truth but lets live in hope. I pay over £200 a month for my pension. From April it will be over £300 if the government gets its way. I have had a pay freeze for the last two years and apparently will get no more than 1%(and could be less) per year for the next 4 years. The way my pension is calculated will also change so that I get less. As a teacher I can retire(on a much reduced pension) at 60 or get a full pension (linked to number of years I have been teaching)at 65. The government keep on about life expectancy going up but they will never tell you that this is not the case with teachers. A teacher who retires at 60 has an average life expectancy. A teacher who retires at 65 on average dies at 68. They want teachers to carry on working until 68. Well that's a very clever way to ensure you never have to pay out. Do you want someone teaching your kids or grandchildren at 68 anyway? Also older public sector workers in jobs will block younger getting jobs thus increasing youth unemployment. A settlement was reached in 2007 that was both fair to the public and to the public sector. When you take inflation into consideration 48 Billion more has been paid into the teachers pension scheme since it started than has ever been taken out. The pension raid is nothing more than a stealth tax. All the public sector pensions with the exception of the armed forces pension are fully funded.Then again I don't begrudge the pensions our brave armed forces get. Times are hard but the current government tells one lie after another. Teachers can receive a full pension after 30-40 years depending on when they started teaching as long as they are also retirement age. MP's get a full pension after 15 years not to mention various other perks.Are we truly all in this together? If the MP's accepted what they are offering me I would agree reluctantly to what is being suggested. Yes teachers do get lots of holidays but what you don't realise is we only get paid for the days we teach and that pay is then averaged out through the year.Besides which I work through most of mine (with the general exception of the summer holidays). I am also up most days well past midnight marking and planning. The Government could easily raise the money that is needed by cutting over a longer period of time and by tightening up on tax avoidance of the mega rich. Also remember that bankers got us into this mess and have a certain moral responsibility to get us out. Try looking at this website robinhoodtax.org/ It is easier for the Government just to target middle Britain- the nurses and teachers who they didn't think would strike. The pay in the public sector in general does not match up with professionals in the private sector. A decent pension is seen as a trade off for accepting lower annual pay when negotiations take place. Remember your roots. I'd rather strike for my rights than be a scab. Anyway although I could go on I think I've written enough.

I agree, you've written more than enough.