Four directors resign.

[donnyroversfc]

As I've stated elsewhere they may be hard nosed business men, but they were to help the club. They weren't here for themselves, they weren't hear to make money. They were here to help the club and jr. And all they received were criticism and little support so they probably thought what's the point.

Dick has left for medical reasons and his son and daughter have left because dad has gone. That leaves Terry who JR hasn't spoken to. So let's have a bit of perspective. Do you really believe that Terry has left because of my posts and a few others? Come off it.

There's a much bigger story waiting to come out. JR said himself it is only a small minority that are  as he puts it 'moaning'. So they haven't only received criticism they've mostly received support from the vast majority.

I thought we lived in a democracy where people could express their views. What is viewed by some as moaning is viewed by others as constructive criticism. I fall firmly into the constructive criticism camp. If I and others feel the club is going down the wrong path it would be very remiss of us not to say so.

You never know our views may well have been listened to and could potentially have averted a disaster for the club. At least I can hold my head up high and say I wasn't a sheep and I gave my honestly held views despite all the abuse thrown my way.

Averted a disaster?? Looks to me like they've caused the disaster.

So you still belive the board members left because of criticism on here? Its a totally laughable excuse and one i don't believe one bit!

Of course you don't, why would you believe anything Ryan says. You never have before.

Never have? I think you'll find you're wrong there! I have stated in the past that i feel we have/are been lied to (Sharp clause, Backing and sacking SO'D etc). I also feel he is witholding the real reasons why the board members have resigned, i very much doubt that the truth will come out either, he's using us fans as an easy target to blame when it's quite clear to anyone that there as been alot of stuff going on behind the scenes that they want to keep quiet.

Anyone remember John Ryan saying about how lots of loans/short term players wont work when talking about Sheffield United? So why have we gone down that route then?

My god.. Are you wired up correctly?? I've just said you don't trust or believe anything he says. And then you proceed to confirm my point in some sort of idiotic argument..
We both agree you don't believe him end of..
Carry on posting shit like that and you'll have nobody here not to trust

It's only recently that he's started to say these lies (although you could argue that it was more to do with him not really having a say/knowing whats happening. Gartom says thats not the case though). Do i believe his comments in his last interview? No. Did i always used to believe him in the past? Yes. Would i still believe him in the future? Yes.

[dickos1]

Just because you don't believe him doesn't mean they are lies. And if he's at home reading this you've probably sent him over the edge give it a rest

[Filo]

As I've stated elsewhere they may be hard nosed business men, but they were to help the club. They weren't here for themselves, they weren't hear to make money. They were here to help the club and jr. And all they received were criticism and little support so they probably thought what's the point.

Dick has left for medical reasons and his son and daughter have left because dad has gone. That leaves Terry who JR hasn't spoken to. So let's have a bit of perspective. Do you really believe that Terry has left because of my posts and a few others? Come off it.

There's a much bigger story waiting to come out. JR said himself it is only a small minority that are  as he puts it 'moaning'. So they haven't only received criticism they've mostly received support from the vast majority.

I thought we lived in a democracy where people could express their views. What is viewed by some as moaning is viewed by others as constructive criticism. I fall firmly into the constructive criticism camp. If I and others feel the club is going down the wrong path it would be very remiss of us not to say so.

You never know our views may well have been listened to and could potentially have averted a disaster for the club. At least I can hold my head up high and say I wasn't a sheep and I gave my honestly held views despite all the abuse thrown my way.

Averted a disaster?? Looks to me like they've caused the disaster.

So you still belive the board members left because of criticism on here? Its a totally laughable excuse and one i don't believe one bit!

Of course you don't, why would you believe anything Ryan says. You never have before.

Never have? I think you'll find you're wrong there! I have stated in the past that i feel we have/are been lied to (Sharp clause, Backing and sacking SO'D etc). I also feel he is witholding the real reasons why the board members have resigned, i very much doubt that the truth will come out either, he's using us fans as an easy target to blame when it's quite clear to anyone that there as been alot of stuff going on behind the scenes that they want to keep quiet.

Anyone remember John Ryan saying about how lots of loans/short term players wont work when talking about Sheffield United? So why have we gone down that route then?

My god.. Are you wired up correctly?? I've just said you don't trust or believe anything he says. And then you proceed to confirm my point in some sort of idiotic argument..
We both agree you don't believe him end of..
Carry on posting shit like that and you'll have nobody here not to trust

It's only recently that he's started to say these lies (although you could argue that it was more to do with him not really having a say/knowing whats happening. Gartom says thats not the case though). Do i believe his comments in his last interview? No. Did i always used to believe him in the past? Yes. Would i still believe him in the future? Yes.

I hope you`ve got access to a good lawyer, or you`ve got evidence to back up your allegation of lying!

[donnyroversfc]

Im fine to give it a rest, i hope he doesn't call it a day and all that, obviously! Just standing up for myself and putting my points across about how the minority on here (im guessing im part of that because i have stated on here many of times that i dont agree with the new regime/plan) can't seriously be to blame for them leaving Sir John in the shit!

I've said what i wanted to say on the matter though and i said i wouldn't post about McKay anymore because it just turns into petty arguments about who's right and who's wrong. And i'll no longer say my piece on this matter either!

Who knows, the resignations may be a blessing in disguise and the push we need?

[Filo]

Im fine to give it a rest, i hope he doesn't call it a day and all that, obviously! Just standing up for myself and putting my points across about how the minority on here (im guessing im part of that because i have stated on here many of times that i dont agree with the new regime/plan) can't seriously be to blame for them leaving Sir John in the shit!

I've said what i wanted to say on the matter though and i said i wouldn't post about McKay anymore because it just turns into petty arguments about who's right and who's wrong. And i'll no longer say my piece on this matter either!

Who knows, the resignations may be a blessing in disguise and the push we need?

You`d be wise to retract your allegation of lying, unless you`ve got irrefutable evidence of it!

[donnyroversfc]

Im fine to give it a rest, i hope he doesn't call it a day and all that, obviously! Just standing up for myself and putting my points across about how the minority on here (im guessing im part of that because i have stated on here many of times that i dont agree with the new regime/plan) can't seriously be to blame for them leaving Sir John in the shit!

I've said what i wanted to say on the matter though and i said i wouldn't post about McKay anymore because it just turns into petty arguments about who's right and who's wrong. And i'll no longer say my piece on this matter either!

Who knows, the resignations may be a blessing in disguise and the push we need?

You`d be wise to retract your allegation of lying, unless you`ve got irrefutable evidence of it!

He stated that Billy's release clause was £3million, no? Turns out it was much less than that! There's a lie for you.

[DonnyRTID]

I don't believe you're a DRFC fan.

[Filo]

Im fine to give it a rest, i hope he doesn't call it a day and all that, obviously! Just standing up for myself and putting my points across about how the minority on here (im guessing im part of that because i have stated on here many of times that i dont agree with the new regime/plan) can't seriously be to blame for them leaving Sir John in the shit!

I've said what i wanted to say on the matter though and i said i wouldn't post about McKay anymore because it just turns into petty arguments about who's right and who's wrong. And i'll no longer say my piece on this matter either!

Who knows, the resignations may be a blessing in disguise and the push we need?

You`d be wise to retract your allegation of lying, unless you`ve got irrefutable evidence of it!

He stated that Billy's release clause was £3million, no? Turns out it was much less than that! There's a lie for you.

I take it that you know the full details of the clause then?


I`ve tried to help you, on your head be it, but let me warn you defending a libel case can become very expensive, losing a libel case would be even more expensive!

[donnyroversfc]

Im fine to give it a rest, i hope he doesn't call it a day and all that, obviously! Just standing up for myself and putting my points across about how the minority on here (im guessing im part of that because i have stated on here many of times that i dont agree with the new regime/plan) can't seriously be to blame for them leaving Sir John in the shit!

I've said what i wanted to say on the matter though and i said i wouldn't post about McKay anymore because it just turns into petty arguments about who's right and who's wrong. And i'll no longer say my piece on this matter either!

Who knows, the resignations may be a blessing in disguise and the push we need?

You`d be wise to retract your allegation of lying, unless you`ve got irrefutable evidence of it!

He stated that Billy's release clause was £3million, no? Turns out it was much less than that! There's a lie for you.

I take it that you know the full details of the clause then?


I`ve tried to help you, on your head be it, but let me warn you defending a libel case can become very expensive, losing a libel case would be even more expensive!

No i dont, but it seems alot do! Seth has always stated that the clause was much lower than the £3mill being spouted, so did other journalists.

He also (on the Wednesday) said he 'never responds to hotheads who want to sack somebody, i dont think it's ever worked'. Then ofcourse on the friday SO'D was sacked. If he's not lying, and not telling the truth, then what his he doing?

Why wouldn't i be a Donny fan DonnyRTID? I assure you i am and have been since the conference! I seriously wouldn't waste my time posting on here if i wasn't passionate about Donny Rovers!

[The Red Baron]

Seems to me that the grestest service Gartom could do at the moment is to persuade JR and other members of the Board that reading this forum (or indeed any other fans' forum) is not a good idea for anyone professionally involved with the club.

And if the views of a small (if vocal and at times repetitive) minority on here really is the reason why directors have withdrawn their support (and nothing else) let's close the thing down, because there really isn't any point having a forum if people can't espouse different and maybe controversial opinions.

[PaulRover08]

Im fine to give it a rest, i hope he doesn't call it a day and all that, obviously! Just standing up for myself and putting my points across about how the minority on here (im guessing im part of that because i have stated on here many of times that i dont agree with the new regime/plan) can't seriously be to blame for them leaving Sir John in the shit!

I've said what i wanted to say on the matter though and i said i wouldn't post about McKay anymore because it just turns into petty arguments about who's right and who's wrong. And i'll no longer say my piece on this matter either!

Who knows, the resignations may be a blessing in disguise and the push we need?

You`d be wise to retract your allegation of lying, unless you`ve got irrefutable evidence of it!

He stated that Billy's release clause was £3million, no? Turns out it was much less than that! There's a lie for you.

Were you born stupid or have you had to work at it? The release clause goes down in line with length of contract left. This happens with all release clauses, not just Billys. I thought this was both public knowledge and, if not, bloody obvious. Do you think if he was still here next January (6 months left on his contract) that the release clause would still be £3m. Wake up. JR has not lied on this. The clause was £3m in the summer, hence Southampton bidding that to trigger it. It is now less as the length of contract is less.

[benaldo]

Look at it like this.

OUt of all 4 of them only 1 of them ever put much money in (Dick). SO it's not really the catastrophe that we're all going on about.

Someone else will possibly be found to replace them.

And to voice my thoughts on the constant badly thought out, negative, mostly from children, comments that seem to be the order of the day on here, I just think you ought to think before you type. Nothing wrong with voicing your opinions, but when it's for the 1000th time and is about an issue that most people I know find positive, you begin to become a thorn in the clubs side.

And I find it laughable how some of you think you actually know what's going on and what isn't at the club!!  There are an awful lot of teenage boys on this forum. Stick to masturbating in your bedrooms instead of coming on here, it'll send yo ublind, but it'll cause less trouble.

[madmick50]

Look at it like this.

OUt of all 4 of them only 1 of them ever put much money in (Dick). SO it's not really the catastrophe that we're all going on about.

Agreed, and he left for medical reasons not alleged 'moaning'.

[The Red Baron]

And to voice my thoughts on the constant badly thought out, negative, mostly from children, comments that seem to be the order of the day on here, I just think you ought to think before you type. Nothing wrong with voicing your opinions, but when it's for the 1000th time and is about an issue that most people I know find positive, you begin to become a thorn in the clubs side.

And I find it laughable how some of you think you actually know what's going on and what isn't at the club!!  There are an awful lot of teenage boys on this forum. Stick to masturbating in your bedrooms instead of coming on here, it'll send yo ublind, but it'll cause less trouble.

If you can see that, I find it odd that members of the Board, successful people in their own right, can't see it.

Also, this forum is not in any way unique. Go on any football forum in the country and you'll find the same level of ill-informed ranting, particularly when a club is going through a sticky patch on the field. That's why I say that anyone involved in the game in a professional capacity would be advised to steer well clear of such forums. I mean, iif you were a player and read some of the things posted on here in the aftermath of a defeat, you'd end up throwing your boots in a skip and taking a job stacking shelves at Asda!

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

JR has stated he finds constant criticsm tiring and unwanted.  It's fairly simple if you don't want him around keep on criticising, if you want him here cut him some slack as he's done wonders for us.

Look at it this way also, we keep hearing from the negatie lot all the bad things about what's going on, still we've not seen a credible alternative solution from them.

[wilts rover]

Look at it like this.

OUt of all 4 of them only 1 of them ever put much money in (Dick). SO it's not really the catastrophe that we're all going on about.

Someone else will possibly be found to replace them.

And to voice my thoughts on the constant badly thought out, negative, mostly from children, comments that seem to be the order of the day on here, I just think you ought to think before you type. Nothing wrong with voicing your opinions, but when it's for the 1000th time and is about an issue that most people I know find positive, you begin to become a thorn in the clubs side.

And I find it laughable how some of you think you actually know what's going on and what isn't at the club!!  There are an awful lot of teenage boys on this forum. Stick to masturbating in your bedrooms instead of coming on here, it'll send yo ublind, but it'll cause less trouble.

Not the way I have understood it Ben. The three of them but an equal amount in (or they split the debt 3 ways). Then Bramall decided to stop, how, why, when there has been plenty of speculation, maybe he fell out with SOD, maybe he saw a better use for his money, maybe he got fed up of being attacked on here for what he saw as charitable work whilst some people were looking for another motive, maybe it was the spiralling cost put against the declining performance. This meant JR, DW had either to put in more money themselves or cut costs (that means player sales) - or do what they did, which was look at WM's third way - and look where that has got us.

I reckon that millionaires willing to invest in Doncaster Rovers are pretty thin on the ground. How much was it that they needed to find this season £4 million? Thats without BS new contract, SOD payout. Start buying a few more lottery tickets Ben.

[mutleyrover]

Maybe some of the critics on here should take a long hard look at themselves!

Filo that post is totally uncalled for , this is a fans forum where free speech is allowed. These are 'hard nosed' businessmen and don't give a flying fook what's on here in the main.
Perhaps you should look at your self here instead of blaming the man on the street for the resignations of 4 directors.
As I see it ........we're ALL allowed to write our opinions, perhaps a post you made caused the directors to resign numpty. :angry:
Perhaps those critics were right all along and that's the rationale behind the resignations.

Now I`m in from work i`ll respond properly.

First of all, i`m not a numpty, like wellred stated, and this goes for anyone, if the cap fits! I`m not saying censor peoples opinions, but there are one or two on here that have a clear agenda when it comes to recent decisions the board have made, they start multiple threads about the same thing, they can`t just voice their concerns and move on, no, they have to force feed us their opinions over and over again, to the point where people are pig sick of reading what they type, they can`t see beyond there nose end! it`s pathetic!

As for the directors not taking any notice of things on here, how can they? it was only a fortnight ago that there were posts about having protests, we even had someone organise a petition to protest about the way the directors were running the club, how would you feel if some one was trying to tell you how to spend your money? i hope the repetative negative posters, the organisers of the petition and the people that put their names to it are satisfied now, I`m sure they`ve got an alternative plan to finance the club!

Thanks for clarifying where your original comment was aimed. As a Moderator your explanation is appreciated.

I wonder if graingrover and Dickos1 share your views now or they still feel that posting the occasional criticism of decisions made by the board on here cause them to walk away from the club.

I dont support the protests, petitions or multiple threads about the same thing but there are a few on here, like myself, who do not feel we should constantly praise decisions which we dont agree with. Being accused for playing a part in the walk out of the directors is laughable. I have yet to hear the interview JR gave last night but I hope that this is not the reason he gave for them leaving. I'm sure it didnt help matters if protests were planned but the odd comment on here disagreeing with their decisions.... come on!!

[Jim Dobbin]

Look at it like this.

OUt of all 4 of them only 1 of them ever put much money in (Dick). SO it's not really the catastrophe that we're all going on about.

Someone else will possibly be found to replace them.

And to voice my thoughts on the constant badly thought out, negative, mostly from children, comments that seem to be the order of the day on here, I just think you ought to think before you type. Nothing wrong with voicing your opinions, but when it's for the 1000th time and is about an issue that most people I know find positive, you begin to become a thorn in the clubs side.

And I find it laughable how some of you think you actually know what's going on and what isn't at the club!!  There are an awful lot of teenage boys on this forum. Stick to masturbating in your bedrooms instead of coming on here, it'll send yo ublind, but it'll cause less trouble.

Not the way I have understood it Ben. The three of them but an equal amount in (or they split the debt 3 ways). Then Bramall decided to stop, how, why, when there has been plenty of speculation, maybe he fell out with SOD, maybe he saw a better use for his money, maybe he got fed up of being attacked on here for what he saw as charitable work whilst some people were looking for another motive, maybe it was the spiralling cost put against the declining performance. This meant JR, DW had either to put in more money themselves or cut costs (that means player sales) - or do what they did, which was look at WM's third way - and look where that has got us.

I reckon that millionaires willing to invest in Doncaster Rovers are pretty thin on the ground. How much was it that they needed to find this season £4 million? Thats without BS new contract, SOD payout. Start buying a few more lottery tickets Ben.

Thats the way l see it and l don't see where the next multi-millionaire is coming from, isn't Patrick Cryne looking for someone to take over at Oakwell too, a club in the same area, bigger fan base and they will no debt at their club this year. Milan took over at SWFC mainly due to their potential and to make a fast buck and l'm sure that if someone wanted to take over at SUFC McCabe would gladly step aside, but these people are hard to come by, especially in the SY area.

This is a huge blow, Ryan's money alone will struggle to sustain a Championship club with £5 million debt and average attendance thats peaked and now dwindling down towards its normal numbers. Would League 1 be that bad? lose the revenue, agreed but a chance to sort out the wage bill and rebuild the side and get the debt in order.

[Wild Rover]

Hope you are proud mate, it could be that you and your kind have put these guys off pumping their money into a club with such idiotic 'fans'.

I'm very proud to have had the courage of my convictions to point out what I considered to be the weaknesses in the McKay strategy. I gave perfectly good reasons why it couldn't work in the hope it would be abandoned before it was too late. I'm not a sheep and will not toe the club line if I feel it is not in the best interests of the club.

If you really believe I have the power to stop them from putting money into the club then you need to get a grip. It's a poor excuse for why they've left and once again we are being kept in the dark.

Irrespective of why the \"Board Members\" left, why dont people like you Mick simply let the \"Board\" get on with running the club as they wish to. At the end of the day its their money that keeps DRFC going in its current form.
Reservations about aspects of running the club i am sure some have, i always had reservations about O'Driscol , but didnt harp on and on about him.
You say courage of convictions, i think dogmatic is more appropriate term.
How can you say anything is not in the best interest of the club, you are not on the inside looking out.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Look at it like this.

OUt of all 4 of them only 1 of them ever put much money in (Dick). SO it's not really the catastrophe that we're all going on about.

Someone else will possibly be found to replace them.

And to voice my thoughts on the constant badly thought out, negative, mostly from children, comments that seem to be the order of the day on here, I just think you ought to think before you type. Nothing wrong with voicing your opinions, but when it's for the 1000th time and is about an issue that most people I know find positive, you begin to become a thorn in the clubs side.

And I find it laughable how some of you think you actually know what's going on and what isn't at the club!!  There are an awful lot of teenage boys on this forum. Stick to masturbating in your bedrooms instead of coming on here, it'll send yo ublind, but it'll cause less trouble.

Not the way I have understood it Ben. The three of them but an equal amount in (or they split the debt 3 ways). Then Bramall decided to stop, how, why, when there has been plenty of speculation, maybe he fell out with SOD, maybe he saw a better use for his money, maybe he got fed up of being attacked on here for what he saw as charitable work whilst some people were looking for another motive, maybe it was the spiralling cost put against the declining performance. This meant JR, DW had either to put in more money themselves or cut costs (that means player sales) - or do what they did, which was look at WM's third way - and look where that has got us.

I reckon that millionaires willing to invest in Doncaster Rovers are pretty thin on the ground. How much was it that they needed to find this season £4 million? Thats without BS new contract, SOD payout. Start buying a few more lottery tickets Ben.

Thats the way l see it and l don't see where the next multi-millionaire is coming from, isn't Patrick Cryne looking for someone to take over at Oakwell too, a club in the same area, bigger fan base and they will no debt at their club this year. Milan took over at SWFC mainly due to their potential and to make a fast buck and l'm sure that if someone wanted to take over at SUFC McCabe would gladly step aside, but these people are hard to come by, especially in the SY area.

This is a huge blow, Ryan's money alone will struggle to sustain a Championship club with £5 million debt and average attendance thats peaked and now dwindling down towards its normal numbers. Would League 1 be that bad? lose the revenue, agreed but a chance to sort out the wage bill and rebuild the side and get the debt in order.

The Monaco consortium rumour that's gone about was interesting.  Highly unlikely but one can't help but feel there may be more to Mckay etc than meets the eye.  I know JR denied the fact last night, however he didn't seem all that convincing on it IMO.  Fact is nobody takes over a football club to make money that's for sure.

[Donnylass]

IMO some people do need to get a grip.

There is a big difference between coming on here after a game and either praising or slating certain players, the club etc depending if we win or loose.

Talking about improving our midfield, or saying that someone played a bit lazy is in no way the same as REPETATIVELY telling board members how they should spend their money. Claiming to know so much about business, but yet spout stats and not any constructive, real ideas.

Claim the WM scheme is not working, yet at home we are unbeaten and looking fitter and stronger and improved in skills (due to playing along side experienced players). Yes we lost at BC, but my god did you ever think they would ever come back in the 2nd half like they did. You can't say something isn't working until it FAILS and at the moment it isn't failing. I know we have a limited amount of time, but we knew what ever scheme we did would take time.

And if we run out and end up in L1, so be it. But still support the club you love.

So can we have less of the later and as norm with the former. Because yes, people have a right to their opinion, but some opinions aren't there to help, but just to inflame.

Please think about your motives before you give your opinion.

[inSODwetrust]

IMO some people do need to get a grip.

There is a big difference between coming on here after a game and either praising or slating certain players, the club etc depending if we win or loose.

Talking about improving our midfield, or saying that someone played a bit lazy is in no way the same as REPETATIVELY telling board members how they should spend their money. Claiming to know so much about business, but yet spout stats and not any constructive, real ideas.

Claim the WM scheme is not working, yet at home we are unbeaten and looking fitter and stronger and improved in skills (due to playing along side experienced players). Yes we lost at BC, but my god did you ever think they would ever come back in the 2nd half like they did. You can't say something isn't working until it FAILS and at the moment it isn't failing. I know we have a limited amount of time, but we knew what ever scheme we did would take time.

And if we run out and end up in L1, so be it. But still support the club you love.So can we have less of the later and as norm with the former. Because yes, people have a right to their opinion, but some opinions aren't there to help, but just to inflame.

Please think about your motives before you give your opinion.

And there it is!

I love the club! You love the club! John Ryan loves the club! Every single fan loves the club in their own way (Even Benaldo and Madmick)! Does anyone think Terry Bramall loves/loved the club? I dont!

Unfortunately, football is now a money game, and, in my opinion the biggest business in the world.

I honestly dont think John Ryan would want to see this club go down shit street, so basically, i dont think we'll be bringing many (if any) players in for the remainder of the transfer window! I think League 1 is looking more and more likely, but as people have said, our home form is decent and we're scoring some great goals! Also, Simon Gillett isn't playing too bad!

Give it a season or two in League 1 (Worst case scenario) and I believe (and hopefully every single one of you out there believe)that we will be back bigger, better, faster, stronger!



KEEP THE FAITH!

[hoolahoop]

Look at it like this.

OUt of all 4 of them only 1 of them ever put much money in (Dick). SO it's not really the catastrophe that we're all going on about.

Someone else will possibly be found to replace them.

And to voice my thoughts on the constant badly thought out, negative, mostly from children, comments that seem to be the order of the day on here, I just think you ought to think before you type. Nothing wrong with voicing your opinions, but when it's for the 1000th time and is about an issue that most people I know find positive, you begin to become a thorn in the clubs side.

And I find it laughable how some of you think you actually know what's going on and what isn't at the club!!  There are an awful lot of teenage boys on this forum. Stick to masturbating in your bedrooms instead of coming on here, it'll send yo ublind, but it'll cause less trouble.

Not the way I have understood it Ben. The three of them but an equal amount in (or they split the debt 3 ways). Then Bramall decided to stop, how, why, when there has been plenty of speculation, maybe he fell out with SOD, maybe he saw a better use for his money, maybe he got fed up of being attacked on here for what he saw as charitable work whilst some people were looking for another motive, maybe it was the spiralling cost put against the declining performance. This meant JR, DW had either to put in more money themselves or cut costs (that means player sales) - or do what they did, which was look at WM's third way - and look where that has got us.

I reckon that millionaires willing to invest in Doncaster Rovers are pretty thin on the ground. How much was it that they needed to find this season £4 million? Thats without BS new contract, SOD payout. Start buying a few more lottery tickets Ben.

Thats the way l see it and l don't see where the next multi-millionaire is coming from, isn't Patrick Cryne looking for someone to take over at Oakwell too, a club in the same area, bigger fan base and they will no debt at their club this year. Milan took over at SWFC mainly due to their potential and to make a fast buck and l'm sure that if someone wanted to take over at SUFC McCabe would gladly step aside, but these people are hard to come by, especially in the SY area.

This is a huge blow, Ryan's money alone will struggle to sustain a Championship club with £5 million debt and average attendance thats peaked and now dwindling down towards its normal numbers. Would League 1 be that bad? lose the revenue, agreed but a chance to sort out the wage bill and rebuild the side and get the debt in order.

The Monaco consortium rumour that's gone about was interesting.  Highly unlikely but one can't help but feel there may be more to Mckay etc than meets the eye.  I know JR denied the fact last night, however he didn't seem all that convincing on it IMO.  Fact is nobody takes over a football club to make money that's for sure.

Andy nobody but nobody puts a stash of money into football to make a fast buck hence all the clubs virtually queueing up at the Administrators door. They do it for any of the following 3 reasons.....the love of the club, the kudos or for financial reasons.
Our Chairman does it for the love of the club and has been repaid many times by those that respect what he has done for us. He has always been admired, rarely criticised (except of late) and that is highly unusual for a Chairman to receive such adulation from the supporters.
Unfortunately fora are designed for folk to openly discuss different ideas to move the club forward , sometimes in an encouraging way and on occasions in a critical way.......it comes with the territory.
If this forum is to be of any use at all or of any interest to the users for that matter , then all sides MUST be heard. It's not for the Chairman to browbeat the loyal fans who may or may not agree with the methodology or actions of the club. Neither is it the position of moderators and others to berate or attempt to bully those that disagree with the current situation or any of the events of late. This is not what the VSC TRUST was put in place for, a trust is there to safeguard and improve the lot of it's members and to question the Board if necessary. After all shareholders (of the VSC) and supporters have every right to express their opinions they are not only the customers but shareholders in effect.

To suppress alternative opinions is a ridiculous state of affairs, totally undemocratic and would eventually lead not only to the death of this forum but eventually would prejudice the good work of the VSC itself!

I would urge those that disagree with repeated threads either pro or con the current strategy to not post on that thread just for repeated arguments sake. There are many on here who could argue in an empty room ...........ensure the room stays that way please.

[Filo]

Look at it like this.

OUt of all 4 of them only 1 of them ever put much money in (Dick). SO it's not really the catastrophe that we're all going on about.

Someone else will possibly be found to replace them.

And to voice my thoughts on the constant badly thought out, negative, mostly from children, comments that seem to be the order of the day on here, I just think you ought to think before you type. Nothing wrong with voicing your opinions, but when it's for the 1000th time and is about an issue that most people I know find positive, you begin to become a thorn in the clubs side.

And I find it laughable how some of you think you actually know what's going on and what isn't at the club!!  There are an awful lot of teenage boys on this forum. Stick to masturbating in your bedrooms instead of coming on here, it'll send yo ublind, but it'll cause less trouble.

Not the way I have understood it Ben. The three of them but an equal amount in (or they split the debt 3 ways). Then Bramall decided to stop, how, why, when there has been plenty of speculation, maybe he fell out with SOD, maybe he saw a better use for his money, maybe he got fed up of being attacked on here for what he saw as charitable work whilst some people were looking for another motive, maybe it was the spiralling cost put against the declining performance. This meant JR, DW had either to put in more money themselves or cut costs (that means player sales) - or do what they did, which was look at WM's third way - and look where that has got us.

I reckon that millionaires willing to invest in Doncaster Rovers are pretty thin on the ground. How much was it that they needed to find this season £4 million? Thats without BS new contract, SOD payout. Start buying a few more lottery tickets Ben.

Thats the way l see it and l don't see where the next multi-millionaire is coming from, isn't Patrick Cryne looking for someone to take over at Oakwell too, a club in the same area, bigger fan base and they will no debt at their club this year. Milan took over at SWFC mainly due to their potential and to make a fast buck and l'm sure that if someone wanted to take over at SUFC McCabe would gladly step aside, but these people are hard to come by, especially in the SY area.

This is a huge blow, Ryan's money alone will struggle to sustain a Championship club with £5 million debt and average attendance thats peaked and now dwindling down towards its normal numbers. Would League 1 be that bad? lose the revenue, agreed but a chance to sort out the wage bill and rebuild the side and get the debt in order.

The Monaco consortium rumour that's gone about was interesting.  Highly unlikely but one can't help but feel there may be more to Mckay etc than meets the eye.  I know JR denied the fact last night, however he didn't seem all that convincing on it IMO.  Fact is nobody takes over a football club to make money that's for sure.

Andy nobody but nobody puts a stash of money into football to make a fast buck hence all the clubs virtually queueing up at the Administrators door. They do it for any of the following 3 reasons.....the love of the club, the kudos or for financial reasons.
Our Chairman does it for the love of the club and has been repaid many times by those that respect what he has done for us. He has always been admired, rarely criticised (except of late) and that is highly unusual for a Chairman to receive such adulation from the supporters.
Unfortunately fora are designed for folk to openly discuss different ideas to move the club forward , sometimes in an encouraging way and on occasions in a critical way.......it comes with the territory.
If this forum is to be of any use at all or of any interest to the users for that matter , then all sides MUST be heard. It's not for the Chairman to browbeat the loyal fans who may or may not agree with the methodology or actions of the club. Neither is it the position of moderators and others to berate or attempt to bully those that disagree with the current situation or any of the events of late. This is not what the VSC TRUST was put in place for, a trust is there to safeguard and improve the lot of it's members and to question the Board if necessary. After all shareholders (of the VSC) and supporters have every right to express their opinions they are not only the customers but shareholders in effect.

To suppress alternative opinions is a ridiculous state of affairs, totally undemocratic and would eventually lead not only to the death of this forum but eventually would prejudice the good work of the VSC itself!

I would urge those that disagree with repeated threads either pro or con the current strategy to not post on that thread just for repeated arguments sake. There are many on here who could argue in an empty room ...........ensure the room stays that way please.

I`m beginning to wonder whether you read what (this numpty) I type, I`ve never attempted to suppress, or Bully other posters into \"towing the party line\" as you so often accuse us of! You mention that we try to \"brow beat\" others into line, I suggest to you that it`s the other way around, the repeated negative posts by a minority are trying to brow beat the rest of the forum into their way of thinking. Now if you interpret that as you personally, then thats your problem, my original post was n`t aimed at you, the main perpetrators know who they are, but as Wellred said, \"if the cap fits\"

[dickos1]

Maybe some of the critics on here should take a long hard look at themselves!

Filo that post is totally uncalled for , this is a fans forum where free speech is allowed. These are 'hard nosed' businessmen and don't give a flying fook what's on here in the main.
Perhaps you should look at your self here instead of blaming the man on the street for the resignations of 4 directors.
As I see it ........we're ALL allowed to write our opinions, perhaps a post you made caused the directors to resign numpty. :angry:
Perhaps those critics were right all along and that's the rationale behind the resignations.

Now I`m in from work i`ll respond properly.

First of all, i`m not a numpty, like wellred stated, and this goes for anyone, if the cap fits! I`m not saying censor peoples opinions, but there are one or two on here that have a clear agenda when it comes to recent decisions the board have made, they start multiple threads about the same thing, they can`t just voice their concerns and move on, no, they have to force feed us their opinions over and over again, to the point where people are pig sick of reading what they type, they can`t see beyond there nose end! it`s pathetic!

As for the directors not taking any notice of things on here, how can they? it was only a fortnight ago that there were posts about having protests, we even had someone organise a petition to protest about the way the directors were running the club, how would you feel if some one was trying to tell you how to spend your money? i hope the repetative negative posters, the organisers of the petition and the people that put their names to it are satisfied now, I`m sure they`ve got an alternative plan to finance the club!

Thanks for clarifying where your original comment was aimed. As a Moderator your explanation is appreciated.

I wonder if graingrover and Dickos1 share your views now or they still feel that posting the occasional criticism of decisions made by the board on here cause them to walk away from the club.

I dont support the protests, petitions or multiple threads about the same thing but there are a few on here, like myself, who do not feel we should constantly praise decisions which we dont agree with. Being accused for playing a part in the walk out of the directors is laughable. I have yet to hear the interview JR gave last night but I hope that this is not the reason he gave for them leaving. I'm sure it didnt help matters if protests were planned but the odd comment on here disagreeing with their decisions.... come on!!

If it was occasional criticism then you may have a point, but when it's every day, 7 days a week for 5 months then it's a step too far

[dickos1]

Look at it like this.

OUt of all 4 of them only 1 of them ever put much money in (Dick). SO it's not really the catastrophe that we're all going on about.

Someone else will possibly be found to replace them.

And to voice my thoughts on the constant badly thought out, negative, mostly from children, comments that seem to be the order of the day on here, I just think you ought to think before you type. Nothing wrong with voicing your opinions, but when it's for the 1000th time and is about an issue that most people I know find positive, you begin to become a thorn in the clubs side.

And I find it laughable how some of you think you actually know what's going on and what isn't at the club!!  There are an awful lot of teenage boys on this forum. Stick to masturbating in your bedrooms instead of coming on here, it'll send yo ublind, but it'll cause less trouble.

Not the way I have understood it Ben. The three of them but an equal amount in (or they split the debt 3 ways). Then Bramall decided to stop, how, why, when there has been plenty of speculation, maybe he fell out with SOD, maybe he saw a better use for his money, maybe he got fed up of being attacked on here for what he saw as charitable work whilst some people were looking for another motive, maybe it was the spiralling cost put against the declining performance. This meant JR, DW had either to put in more money themselves or cut costs (that means player sales) - or do what they did, which was look at WM's third way - and look where that has got us.

I reckon that millionaires willing to invest in Doncaster Rovers are pretty thin on the ground. How much was it that they needed to find this season £4 million? Thats without BS new contract, SOD payout. Start buying a few more lottery tickets Ben.

Thats the way l see it and l don't see where the next multi-millionaire is coming from, isn't Patrick Cryne looking for someone to take over at Oakwell too, a club in the same area, bigger fan base and they will no debt at their club this year. Milan took over at SWFC mainly due to their potential and to make a fast buck and l'm sure that if someone wanted to take over at SUFC McCabe would gladly step aside, but these people are hard to come by, especially in the SY area.

This is a huge blow, Ryan's money alone will struggle to sustain a Championship club with £5 million debt and average attendance thats peaked and now dwindling down towards its normal numbers. Would League 1 be that bad? lose the revenue, agreed but a chance to sort out the wage bill and rebuild the side and get the debt in order.

The Monaco consortium rumour that's gone about was interesting.  Highly unlikely but one can't help but feel there may be more to Mckay etc than meets the eye.  I know JR denied the fact last night, however he didn't seem all that convincing on it IMO.  Fact is nobody takes over a football club to make money that's for sure.

Andy nobody but nobody puts a stash of money into football to make a fast buck hence all the clubs virtually queueing up at the Administrators door. They do it for any of the following 3 reasons.....the love of the club, the kudos or for financial reasons.
Our Chairman does it for the love of the club and has been repaid many times by those that respect what he has done for us. He has always been admired, rarely criticised (except of late) and that is highly unusual for a Chairman to receive such adulation from the supporters.
Unfortunately fora are designed for folk to openly discuss different ideas to move the club forward , sometimes in an encouraging way and on occasions in a critical way.......it comes with the territory.
If this forum is to be of any use at all or of any interest to the users for that matter , then all sides MUST be heard. It's not for the Chairman to browbeat the loyal fans who may or may not agree with the methodology or actions of the club. Neither is it the position of moderators and others to berate or attempt to bully those that disagree with the current situation or any of the events of late. This is not what the VSC TRUST was put in place for, a trust is there to safeguard and improve the lot of it's members and to question the Board if necessary. After all shareholders (of the VSC) and supporters have every right to express their opinions they are not only the customers but shareholders in effect.

To suppress alternative opinions is a ridiculous state of affairs, totally undemocratic and would eventually lead not only to the death of this forum but eventually would prejudice the good work of the VSC itself!

I would urge those that disagree with repeated threads either pro or con the current strategy to not post on that thread just for repeated arguments sake. There are many on here who could argue in an empty room ...........ensure the room stays that

[hoolahoop]

Look at it like this.

OUt of all 4 of them only 1 of them ever put much money in (Dick). SO it's not really the catastrophe that we're all going on about.

Someone else will possibly be found to replace them.

And to voice my thoughts on the constant badly thought out, negative, mostly from children, comments that seem to be the order of the day on here, I just think you ought to think before you type. Nothing wrong with voicing your opinions, but when it's for the 1000th time and is about an issue that most people I know find positive, you begin to become a thorn in the clubs side.

And I find it laughable how some of you think you actually know what's going on and what isn't at the club!!  There are an awful lot of teenage boys on this forum. Stick to masturbating in your bedrooms instead of coming on here, it'll send yo ublind, but it'll cause less trouble.

Not the way I have understood it Ben. The three of them but an equal amount in (or they split the debt 3 ways). Then Bramall decided to stop, how, why, when there has been plenty of speculation, maybe he fell out with SOD, maybe he saw a better use for his money, maybe he got fed up of being attacked on here for what he saw as charitable work whilst some people were looking for another motive, maybe it was the spiralling cost put against the declining performance. This meant JR, DW had either to put in more money themselves or cut costs (that means player sales) - or do what they did, which was look at WM's third way - and look where that has got us.

I reckon that millionaires willing to invest in Doncaster Rovers are pretty thin on the ground. How much was it that they needed to find this season £4 million? Thats without BS new contract, SOD payout. Start buying a few more lottery tickets Ben.

Thats the way l see it and l don't see where the next multi-millionaire is coming from, isn't Patrick Cryne looking for someone to take over at Oakwell too, a club in the same area, bigger fan base and they will no debt at their club this year. Milan took over at SWFC mainly due to their potential and to make a fast buck and l'm sure that if someone wanted to take over at SUFC McCabe would gladly step aside, but these people are hard to come by, especially in the SY area.

This is a huge blow, Ryan's money alone will struggle to sustain a Championship club with £5 million debt and average attendance thats peaked and now dwindling down towards its normal numbers. Would League 1 be that bad? lose the revenue, agreed but a chance to sort out the wage bill and rebuild the side and get the debt in order.

The Monaco consortium rumour that's gone about was interesting.  Highly unlikely but one can't help but feel there may be more to Mckay etc than meets the eye.  I know JR denied the fact last night, however he didn't seem all that convincing on it IMO.  Fact is nobody takes over a football club to make money that's for sure.

Andy nobody but nobody puts a stash of money into football to make a fast buck hence all the clubs virtually queueing up at the Administrators door. They do it for any of the following 3 reasons.....the love of the club, the kudos or for financial reasons.
Our Chairman does it for the love of the club and has been repaid many times by those that respect what he has done for us. He has always been admired, rarely criticised (except of late) and that is highly unusual for a Chairman to receive such adulation from the supporters.
Unfortunately fora are designed for folk to openly discuss different ideas to move the club forward , sometimes in an encouraging way and on occasions in a critical way.......it comes with the territory.
If this forum is to be of any use at all or of any interest to the users for that matter , then all sides MUST be heard. It's not for the Chairman to browbeat the loyal fans who may or may not agree with the methodology or actions of the club. Neither is it the position of moderators and others to berate or attempt to bully those that disagree with the current situation or any of the events of late. This is not what the VSC TRUST was put in place for, a trust is there to safeguard and improve the lot of it's members and to question the Board if necessary. After all shareholders (of the VSC) and supporters have every right to express their opinions they are not only the customers but shareholders in effect.

To suppress alternative opinions is a ridiculous state of affairs, totally undemocratic and would eventually lead not only to the death of this forum but eventually would prejudice the good work of the VSC itself!

I would urge those that disagree with repeated threads either pro or con the current strategy to not post on that thread just for repeated arguments sake. There are many on here who could argue in an empty room ...........ensure the room stays that way please.

I`m beginning to wonder whether you read what (this numpty) I type, I`ve never attempted to suppress, or Bully other posters into \"towing the party line\" as you so often accuse us of! You mention that we try to \"brow beat\" others into line, I suggest to you that it`s the other way around, the repeated negative posts by a minority are trying to brow beat the rest of the forum into their way of thinking. Now if you interpret that as you personally, then thats your problem, my original post was n`t aimed at you, the main perpetrators know who they are, but as Wellred said, \"if the cap fits\"

First of all I was replying to BFYP's post attempting to stop all this nonsense and nowhere but nowhere in my post was there a mention of you Filo. Incidentally I know your original post wasn't aimed at me as I don't continually post negative posts re. JR on here.
It seems you haven't read my post for what it was and have taken it upon yourself to wear 'caps' all of a sudden.
Now can I reiterate that the paranoia from individuals from both sides of the argument (any argument) should stop, it's like being in a school playground ffs i.e. Madmick v dickos etc.
STOP IT..........we all love and support this club and have differing views, that's life.

You know as well as I do that four Directors don't pack up their bags and leave the same Board meetinf forever because of a few contrary posts on a forum. Stop making everyone feel bad (not you in particular) but everyone.

Time to move on have proper debate and look ahead........no ?

[drfcsteve]

Look at it like this.

OUt of all 4 of them only 1 of them ever put much money in (Dick). SO it's not really the catastrophe that we're all going on about.

Someone else will possibly be found to replace them.

And to voice my thoughts on the constant badly thought out, negative, mostly from children, comments that seem to be the order of the day on here, I just think you ought to think before you type. Nothing wrong with voicing your opinions, but when it's for the 1000th time and is about an issue that most people I know find positive, you begin to become a thorn in the clubs side.

And I find it laughable how some of you think you actually know what's going on and what isn't at the club!!  There are an awful lot of teenage boys on this forum. Stick to masturbating in your bedrooms instead of coming on here, it'll send yo ublind, but it'll cause less trouble.

The irony in this post is too much.

[hoolahoop]

''it'll send yo ublind''......benaldo

I'm sure it was just a typo Steve lol.

[benaldo]

This forum used to be ok......

What you moaning idiots don't seem grasp (so I doubt any of you have been Rovers fans for over 5 years?) is that this is the best squad, ground, and WAS the best board, this club has ever had. AND we're playing in the highest league we've ever been in! I honestly, honestly feel appalled and disgusted sometimes at the moronic, and sometimes willfully manipulative comments on here about the club/board. You all know who you are and I hope you're all happy.

It makes me disgusted to be a Rovers fan  I hope you are all happy - from Madmick offering his \"business advice\" and constantly going on and on about how bad things are (you're like a dripping tap madmick50) to the posse of hangers on and downbeats, to the old fashioned style moaners who used to grace belle vue mainstand.

None of you have helped the club in any way at all apart from paying to moan. I wonder what your home lives are like...mind you, most of you are still living at home I guess?

ANd the most ironic thing is this would probably never happened if this forum hadn't been put into use and then the idiots allowed to get away with commenting like they have!! The vsc may well have sunk drfc. All this \"fan power\" and \"let's buy shares to blah blah blah\" and \"two boxes schmoozing area so your guests can abuse people who are helping the club\" is quite honestly rubbish. Where are your shares getting you now eh? No-where is where.

And where is the hallowed \"vsc - JR/board\" relationship? Where was the input from the vsc to let the board know the true feeling of the majority of fans? Did it happen?

In case any of you forgot, none of the directors have to put a single penny in to the club ever. It's their money, not yours. They've done it out of good will.

ps How a group of 5/10 thicko's can disrupt a football club is beyond me.