Scotland

[BillyStubbsTears]

This is the best takedown of the economic arguments in favour of independence for Acotland that I have read. Simple, concise, accurate on every point.

http://blogs.piie.com/realtime/?p=4503

[BillyStubbsTears]

f**k me, is this idiot STILL prattling on about this bet? It's like having the village idiot round for dinner and then having him refuse to leave.

[Lipsy]

That's quite a frightening/sobering read. Sadly, it appears that the 'Yes' voters would still vote for independence even if it could proved beforehand that their sexual organs would drop off/heal over if they did so.

[RedJ]

Those of you that doubt the validity of my betslip need to answer the question how on Earth have I managed to get odds of 20/1? I'll tell you how. Its because I placed the bet ages ago when everyone thought that 'No' would win comfortably because they were so far ahead in the polls. Why would I keep a screenshot of the betting slip months ago? Go figure.

In that case you won't mind showing a screenshot of where the bet has been confirmed will you?

[RedJ]

YouGov's exit poll would suggest a No victory 54-46.

We'll soon(ish) see.

[IC1967]

The last Yougov poll can be totally ignored. Yes will win. Yougov's poll was an online poll. The poorest members of society don't have internet access. The poorest members are far more likely to vote yes as they have nothing to lose and everything to gain. The poorest members who normally don't vote are voting this time.

All in all that means a yes vote after which I will be considerably richer.

[BillyStubbsTears]

What a choice. Nick Robinson on BBC1 or this bell end on here. It's like a choice between a kick in the left bollock or a kick in the right one.

[LincsRover]

I'll be glad when the no majority (albeit a narrow one 52:48) is announced and this thread ends! It's getting like watching a car crash, can't look, can't stop looking! But now it's boring and we only have 6 hours or so to wait. Off to bed now and look forward to this ending miserably for one of our regulars - although there'll no doubt be another wind up thread immediately the result is announced!

 

[RedJ]

The last Yougov poll can be totally ignored. Yes will win. Yougov's poll was an online poll. The poorest members of society don't have internet access. The poorest members are far more likely to vote yes as they have nothing to lose and everything to gain. The poorest members who normally don't vote are voting this time.

All in all that means a yes vote after which I will be considerably richer.

But you can't be richer because of it if you didn't place the bet.

[IC1967]

Good news for the yes campaign. Voter turnout is very high, pushing 90%. The poor have turned out in their droves and will ensure a yes vote. Get in.

[IC1967]

This is the best takedown of the economic arguments in favour of independence for Acotland that I have read. Simple, concise, accurate on every point.

http://blogs.piie.com/realtime/?p=4503

Make your mind up. Previously you were all for Mr Stigliz. Now you are totally against. Why am I not surprised. You always find the evidence to back up your infantile claims even if this means a complete about turn on your previous views.

Luckily I am here to hold you to account.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Mick.

Yet another avenue that we've wandered down before.

Go and find where I was "all for Mr Stiglitz"

At your leisure.

In fact no. Just f**k off and shut up, you utter pillock.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Looking good for his bet so far!

[RedJ]

If only he'd actually placed it eh?

[RedJ]

By God Mick you've made a cock of yourself haven't you.

Time to make a new account? Ah well, at least you didn't put that bet on in the end, eh?

[Lipsy]

Well, I backed the wrong horse. Glad the result was to maintain independence, though you wonder how long it'll last. Interesting times ahead...

[Filo]

By God Mick you've made a cock of yourself haven't you.

Time to make a new account? Ah well, at least you didn't put that bet on in the end, eh?

Expect Mick to crawl back under his rock and ignore this thread now

[Wild Rover]

All the momentum is with Yes. I expect the vote to be 55/45 in favour of Yes. I have had a hefty wager on Yes winning and I'm counting my money already.

It just shows how desperate the No campaign are with Dave using the 'f' word yesterday. If it is a No the young will resent the older more cautious generation who are only bothered about protecting their pensions and benefits.

You didnt do very well  did you. i said 60/40 for no. ok was 55/45,  but closer than your wager loss .

[jonrover]

All the momentum is with Yes. I expect the vote to be 55/45 in favour of Yes. I have had a hefty wager on Yes winning and I'm counting my money already.

It just shows how desperate the No campaign are with Dave using the 'f' word yesterday. If it is a No the young will resent the older more cautious generation who are only bothered about protecting their pensions and benefits.

Have you got your wheelbarrow ready to collect your winnings on your hefty wager, or were you pissing up out backs again and we all fell for it? PMSL...what a tool!

[IC1967]

By God Mick you've made a cock of yourself haven't you.

Time to make a new account? Ah well, at least you didn't put that bet on in the end, eh?

Expect Mick to crawl back under his rock and ignore this thread now

There'll be no crawling under a rock by me thank you very much. First of all I'd like to magnanimously congratulate the 'No' campaign on scaring predominantly the older generation into voting 'No'. Well done, you twisted the truth and have won a thoroughly undeserved victory.

Well done to all of you that correctly predicted the outcome. It's the first time I can ever remember being wrong about anything, but there is a first time for everything. I have learned  from this experience and this has hardened my resolve so as to make sure it never happens again.

Now, as to my hefty wager. The reason I am a professional gambler and all of you are mug punters is as follows. I backed a 'Yes' vote at 20/1. Recently I decided that instead of risking losing £10k in the event of a 'No' vote I would make a substantial profit whatever the result. So I decided to lay my bet off at 3/1. By doing this I guaranteed myself a profit of £41,309.82. Here is the proof.

It would be a bit too complicated for all of you for me to explain the complex mathematics involved in working out my winnings, but for those of you that want to have a go you need to realise that I was working on paying the betting exchange 3% commission.

OK, I could have made £200,00 if there had been a 'Yes' vote if I hadn't laid the bet off. The downside is that I could also have lost £10,000 if there had been a 'No' vote. I decided that a guaranteed profit of £41,309.82 regardless of how the vote turned out was the way forward. This is the mentality of a professional gambler and it is what keeps me in my luxurious lifestyle.

Hopefully you mug punters have learned a valuable lesson from this experience. I must point out that the betting slip shows a stake of £2896.73. The lay stake was £52896.73. The '5' doesn't show on the betting slip as the box wasn't big enough to fit all the numbers in.

[RedJ]

That still isn't proof that you actually placed that bet... How stupid do you honestly think we are?

[The Red Baron]

Thought for the day?

08:25: Faisal Islam, Sky News Political Editor Faisal Islam, Sky News Political Editor tweets: ...So did one stray opinion poll in the Sunday papers change via panic and GBrown, course of the United Kingdom constitutional settlement...


Hmm.....

[Filo]

Again Mick, that screen shot proves nothing, click on the history tab, as those two bets will now be settled, there you will be able to screen shot both your bets and the outcome of both, you keep on telling us you're an honest person Mick, prove it!

[BillyStubbsTears]

TRB

No, but that's the myth that some will peddle.

It wasn't "one stray poll". It was a clear, consistent and large move towards YES after Salmond spun the pound issue after Debate Two.

As ever, journalists who never have to make an important decision in their lives, take the opportunity to snipe at leisure at politicians who have to make momentous decisions under pressure, in real time.

[The Red Baron]

TRB

No, but that's the myth that some will peddle.

It wasn't "one stray poll". It was a clear, consistent and large move towards YES after Salmond spun the pound issue after Debate Two.

As ever, journalists who never have to make an important decision in their lives, take the opportunity to snipe at leisure at politicians who have to make momentous decisions under pressure, in real time.

I agree, it is a simplistic view, hence the "Hmm...". However, it shows why (initially) Cameron was unwilling to offer "Devo-Max" as an option on the ballot paper because of the problems it will potentially cause with the rest of the Union.

Drafting a Bill that everyone can agree on will be fiendishly difficult and I have a feeling will be impossible in what remains of this Parliament. It has the potential to be a major issue both inside and outside Scotland at the next General Election and will take up much time for the next UK Government. I also believe it will eventually used by the Nats to leverage another referendum.

[jonrover]

By God Mick you've made a cock of yourself haven't you.

Time to make a new account? Ah well, at least you didn't put that bet on in the end, eh?

Expect Mick to crawl back under his rock and ignore this thread now

There'll be no crawling under a rock by me thank you very much. First of all I'd like to magnanimously congratulate the 'No' campaign on scaring predominantly the older generation into voting 'No'. Well done, you twisted the truth and have won a thoroughly undeserved victory.

Well done to all of you that correctly predicted the outcome. It's the first time I can ever remember being wrong about anything, but there is a first time for everything. I have learned  from this experience and this has hardened my resolve so as to make sure it never happens again.

Now, as to my hefty wager. The reason I am a professional gambler and all of you are mug punters is as follows. I backed a 'Yes' vote at 20/1. Recently I decided that instead of risking losing £10k in the event of a 'No' vote I would make a substantial profit whatever the result. So I decided to lay my bet off at 3/1. By doing this I guaranteed myself a profit of £41,309.82. Here is the proof.

It would be a bit too complicated for all of you for me to explain the complex mathematics involved in working out my winnings, but for those of you that want to have a go you need to realise that I was working on paying the betting exchange 3% commission.

OK, I could have made £200,00 if there had been a 'Yes' vote if I hadn't laid the bet off. The downside is that I could also have lost £10,000 if there had been a 'No' vote. I decided that a guaranteed profit of £41,309.82 regardless of how the vote turned out was the way forward. This is the mentality of a professional gambler and it is what keeps me in my luxurious lifestyle.

Hopefully you mug punters have learned a valuable lesson from this experience. I must point out that the betting slip shows a stake of £2896.73. The lay stake was £52896.73. The '5' doesn't show on the betting slip as the box wasn't big enough to fit all the numbers in.

Wow, a bet slip. I'll do a screenshot of every horse to win in the first race this aft for a hundred grand to win then I can pass as a pro gambler too! Screenshot your history you prick. Show us the winnings.

[Filo]

I think he's gone back to the safety of his rock

[auckleyflyer]

IM proud of intelligence Scots coming out in force to dismiss the bigots.
were all one and Scotland and its people have gone up in my estimation. I did think they'd go for it! I know the thick a a brick yorkies would!!
momentous day in our history

[IC1967]

IM proud of intelligence Scots coming out in force to dismiss the bigots.
were all one and Scotland and its people have gone up in my estimation. I did think they'd go for it! I know the thick a a brick yorkies would!!
momentous day in our history

I can understand your joy, however it is misguided. The Tories will win the next election and you will be ruled from Westminster once again by a party you despise. Good luck with that.

As for your comment 'thick as a brick yorkies' I can understand why you have made this comment. It is because you have spent too much time reading this forum and this has skewed your judgement. Unfortunately all the lefties on here do give a poor representation of the intelligence level amongst yorkies. I do my best to redress the balance and will continue to do so.

[moses]

This made (MADE, get it) me smile, even if it is a PR gimmick.