Next

[Filo]

This company is a disgrace, advertising jobs at their South Elmsall warehouse in Poland without advertising them in the UK, totally, totally wrong!

[Yargo]

http://www.fish4.co.uk/job/3698346/warehouse-operative/?TrackID=148&cmpid=Aggregator_Indeed_alljobs#sc=jobfeed&me=feed&cm=Indeed_alljobs

[Filo]

http://www.fish4.co.uk/job/3698346/warehouse-operative/?TrackID=148&cmpid=Aggregator_Indeed_alljobs#sc=jobfeed&me=feed&cm=Indeed_alljobs

Posted 28th November, the same Jobs have been advertised in Poland since the beginig of November, ehy weren't they adverised here at the same time?

[Dagenham Rover]

Thats what the rows about the jobs were advertised in Poland weeks before they were advertised here, bang out of order

[afro goal machine]

As I understand it the next warehouse and other such warehouses were built near mining towns like elmsall to to help improve employment yet they're rammed with Jonny foreigners

[Glyn_Wigley]

It might be worth finding out wheter they received any benefit or tax break etc for building the warehouse there...

[Sheepskin Stu]

I like Polish people. They are honest and hard working generally.

[Bentley Bullet]

I wonder if attracting cheap labour is a reason for the company doing this?

[Mike_F]

I wonder how many able and willing applicants they get through the local job centre. I wined how many applicants do the "Spud from Trainspotting" routine to keep hold of their dole without getting the job. One would imagine that if someone is prepared to yomp half way across Europe they're probably quite interested in doing the job they apply for.

[Dagenham Rover]

There was some trumped out excuse from Next tonight on the news that a "Living Wage" means different things to different communities.

However there is a similar instance from Next a couple of years ago "importing" workers from Poland to cover spikes in trade!!!!

Its freely available via google

[BobG]

Without having done any research at all, I do wonder if chosing South elmsall, and possibly other similar 'depressed' areas for their warehouses was done solely (!) because such places are indeed sources of cheap labour. If you've not had a job for 3 years or something like cos the pit closed down, imagine how little you would be willing to accept.... Not everyone, I agree. But plenty. Once the areas recovered from the pits disasters, then Poles are an obvious way to replace the no longer available wage slaves. What other rational and credible reason can there be?

Never did like Next anyway. Always has been a purveyor of poncy, expensive crap.

BobG

[IC1967]

Ffs. It's obvious why Next want Polish workers. It's because they work harder than English people. I know people that are Polish and they have a much better work ethic than the English. Obviously Next can't come out and say what I've said, because the leftie politically correct brigade would have a field day with them. Luckily I am not politically correct and am prepared to say it as it is.

I know people that work at the Amazon distribution centre in Doncaster. The Polish put the English to shame. Especially the English that have come from a trade union dominated background. These English so called workers use every trick in the book to try and get out of putting in a decent days work. Obviously not all English are like this, but there are enough of them to give all the English a bad name.

If I was a business in the UK looking to recruit hard workers, I'd be advertising in Poland not England.

[Muttley]

If I was a business in the UK looking to recruit hard workers, I'd be advertising in Poland not England.

Says our resident ukipper!

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Aye best not let Nigel know.

For what it's worth this practice is wrong and needs stopping imo.

[IC1967]

If I was a business in the UK looking to recruit hard workers, I'd be advertising in Poland not England.

Says our resident ukipper!

I can see that you've fallen for the leftie drivel that UKIP are anti immigration. Nothing could be further from the truth as you can see from my comments about Polish workers. I'll spell it out for the anti UKIP brigade.

UKIP believes in 'controlled' immigration. The key word is 'controlled'. All the other parties believe in 'uncontrolled' immigration. Quite simple really.

Now what you lefties have to realise is that it is a competitive world out there. All Next are trying to do is to have a competitive advantage by bringing in better workers from Poland than they can find in the UK. They are not a charity. Having less productive English people working for them just to shut the leftie PC brigade up could well put them out of business.

No doubt another factor Next are considering is that the bulk of workers available in South Elmsall are from a trade union dominated background. People with this mindset care more about the company looking after them than they do about the success of Next. Industrial relations are much easier with a workforce that does not have this baggage.

It's a no brainer to me that if you want to be a successful company these days you have to avoid leftie trade union types as workers or you will soon find yourself going out of business.

[wilts rover]

So what you are saying then is that when UKIP say they want to have British jobs for British workers, they actually want British jobs for cheap foreign workers and Britains can get stuffed, especially if you want decent wages and working conditions. Yes I can see that.

[Filo]

I wonder if Next's decision to locate a site in South Elmsall was inluenced by obtaining grants to regenerate mining areas, I wonder if they were offered attractive rates in an effort to bring employment  back to that area?

[IC1967]

So what you are saying then is that when UKIP say they want to have British jobs for British workers, they actually want British jobs for cheap foreign workers and Britains can get stuffed, especially if you want decent wages and working conditions. Yes I can see that.

No, that's not what I'm saying. I'd be quite happy for Next to give all the jobs to British workers but only if this was a good deal for Next. They are not a charity. Unfortunately British workers are not as flexible and hardworking as the Poles.

As a serial entrepreneur and hard nosed business man it is obvious to me that a non unionised Polish workforce would give me a competitive advantage over a competitor that employed less hardworking unionised British workers. I know which business is going to be more successful.

[IC1967]

I wonder if Next's decision to locate a site in South Elmsall was inluenced by obtaining grants to regenerate mining areas, I wonder if they were offered attractive rates in an effort to bring employment  back to that area?

Of course they were. However it was not a pre condition that they only employed British workers. It would be a lot easier for them to employ British workers on the face of it. What you lefties need to explain is why don't they do so. I've already explained it for you but if you think I'm wrong then please enlighten me.

[Filo]

I wonder if Next's decision to locate a site in South Elmsall was inluenced by obtaining grants to regenerate mining areas, I wonder if they were offered attractive rates in an effort to bring employment  back to that area?

Of course they were. However it was not a pre condition that they only employed British workers. It would be a lot easier for them to employ British workers on the face of it. What you lefties need to explain is why don't they do so. I've already explained it for you but if you think I'm wrong then please enlighten me.

Maybe those attractive rates should be brought into line with the competative world, and if Next goes to the wall because of it, who cares, it'll only be the Polish unemployment figures that'll be effected

[IC1967]

One things for sure. By only employing British workers Next would be one step closer to going out of business.

Another reason Next find it difficult to attract hard working British workers is the lavish benefits system. Once you take housing benefit and Tax Credits into account I'd be surprised if it was worth a British worker taking a job at Next.

Its time to slash benefits. Only then will British workers be energised into taking the jobs that companies like Next are offering.

[silent majority]

If they wish to employ only foreign workers then wouldn't the answer be to build a factory in Poland? Of course they would have to forgo any other government subsidy, but that is the price that Next should pay.

[Filo]

It's no coincidence that the CEO OF Next is Conservative life peer and major Conservative donator Simon Wolfson, they like keeping the peasants poorly paid those fat cats!

[IC1967]

If you lefties are unhappy about the Polish coming and 'nicking' jobs then why on earth do you support Labour who believe in uncontrolled immigration and are culpable in the extreme for the huge number of Poles that are living and working in the UK. You can't have it both ways. Either you believe in uncontrolled immigration as Labour do or you want it controlled. If you want it controlled then we at UKIP offer a very warm welcome.

[Filo]

If you lefties are unhappy about the Polish coming and 'nicking' jobs then why on earth do you support Labour who believe in uncontrolled immigration and are culpable in the extreme for the huge number of Poles that are living and working in the UK. You can't have it both ways. Either you believe in uncontrolled immigration as Labour do or you want it controlled. If you want it controlled then we at UKIP offer a very warm welcome.

As usual you totally missed of ignored the point, it's not about the Poles "nicking " the jobs, it's about the fact that these jobs were advertised in Poland nearly a month before they were advertised here in the UK, and also the Polish were transported over here by Next, are they offering the same travel arrangements to UK workers that live off the public transport network? The recruitment policy of Next has been heavily biased towards recruiting Polish workers before workers from the UK!

[IC1967]

If you lefties are unhappy about the Polish coming and 'nicking' jobs then why on earth do you support Labour who believe in uncontrolled immigration and are culpable in the extreme for the huge number of Poles that are living and working in the UK. You can't have it both ways. Either you believe in uncontrolled immigration as Labour do or you want it controlled. If you want it controlled then we at UKIP offer a very warm welcome.

As usual you totally missed of ignored the point, it's not about the Poles "nicking " the jobs, it's about the fact that these jobs were advertised in Poland nearly a month before they were advertised here in the UK, and also the Polish were transported over here by Next, are they offering the same travel arrangements to UK workers that live off the public transport network? The recruitment policy of Next has been heavily biased towards recruiting Polish workers before workers from the UK!

Why do they do this? As I've explained before, they prefer Polish workers. That says a lot about the quality of the British workers available to them. They'd rather get foreigners to do the work with all the costs associated with this than use the local labour. Does this not tell you that there is a problem with the local labour? The local labour has many advantages over the Poles but due to a poor work ethic they aren't preferred for the jobs.

The problem is not with Next. They obviously feel it is a waste of time and resources interviewing British workers.T hey are just operating as best they can in the labour market. The local labour need to have a good long hard look in the mirror and put right what is obviously wrong. They need to be more flexible and they need to be prepared to work harder.

[Filo]

If you lefties are unhappy about the Polish coming and 'nicking' jobs then why on earth do you support Labour who believe in uncontrolled immigration and are culpable in the extreme for the huge number of Poles that are living and working in the UK. You can't have it both ways. Either you believe in uncontrolled immigration as Labour do or you want it controlled. If you want it controlled then we at UKIP offer a very warm welcome.

As usual you totally missed of ignored the point, it's not about the Poles "nicking " the jobs, it's about the fact that these jobs were advertised in Poland nearly a month before they were advertised here in the UK, and also the Polish were transported over here by Next, are they offering the same travel arrangements to UK workers that live off the public transport network? The recruitment policy of Next has been heavily biased towards recruiting Polish workers before workers from the UK!

Why do they do this? As I've explained before, they prefer Polish workers. That says a lot about the quality of the British workers available to them. They'd rather get foreigners to do the work with all the costs associated with this than use the local labour. Does this not tell you that there is a problem with the local labour? The local labour has many advantages over the Poles but due to a poor work ethic they aren't preferred for the jobs.

The problem is not with Next. They obviously feel it is a waste of time and resources interviewing British workers.T hey are just operating as best they can in the labour market. The local labour need to have a good long hard look in the mirror and put right what is obviously wrong. They need to be more flexible and they need to be prepared to work harder.

As I said you choose to ignore the point raised

[IC1967]

I've answered the point raised. Next obviously think it is a waste of their time and money advertising the jobs in the UK.

[Iberian Red]

As a serial entrepreneur and hard nosed business man it is obvious to me that a non unionised Polish workforce would give me a competitive advantage over a competitor that employed less hardworking unionised British workers. I know which business is going to be more successful.

Guitar classes, and a tupperware round make you more of a peg seller than entrepreneur.

[BobG]

LIke I said, I disagree, pretty violently tbh, with Voltaire. This contentious, contemptuous drivel is the perfect reason for doing so.

BobG