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You can't leave a f**king phone contract without lengthy negotiations and a fee to pay. Why on earth would anyone think an entire country could just up and leave a decades-old trading bloc with thousands of complex rules, regulations, and trade deals in place - without first settling all the commitments we've previously agreed to? Anyone who says they don't understand this either genuinely doesn't understand it or does understand it and is lying to you, but either way, they've forfeited their seat at the grown-up discussion table.
Quote from: MachoMadness on December 05, 2018, 04:18:09 pmYou can't leave a f**king phone contract without lengthy negotiations and a fee to pay. Why on earth would anyone think an entire country could just up and leave a decades-old trading bloc with thousands of complex rules, regulations, and trade deals in place - without first settling all the commitments we've previously agreed to? Anyone who says they don't understand this either genuinely doesn't understand it or does understand it and is lying to you, but either way, they've forfeited their seat at the grown-up discussion table.Typical condescending remainiac. I'm so clever and I know everything...
What this country need is a Putin or an Orban to take charge and drag us from the gutter and shackles of EU slavery.I'm sick of hearing about business and finance. I voted leave for the benefit of the nation, not for short sighted personal benefit. There's more to life than money.
I voted leave for the benefit of the nation
What this country need is a Putin or an Orban to take charge and drag us from the gutter and shackles of EU slavery.
The most ignored leaving deal is Lexit. I am sick of being stuck with tags of association with "Tommy" Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon "Robinson" of EDL and UKIP infamy. No I wasn't too thick and therefore was taken in by phony immigration threats. I know the EU is not reformable and is a rich right wing club. Interestingly French train drivers are up in arms about plans to privatise SNCF as its all about market competition. We need a system where we can renationalise rail, water gas and electric - all popular with the public mood (train fares rising again in January to subsidise rail franchise profiteers- including the Dutch and German state railways). And if you think the EU protects workers rights you are dreaming back in the era of Delores, as consecutive UK, with no intervention from the EU, governments have eroded them further. We need to leave with the best deal possible for UK workers and rights.
Quote from: Axholme Lion on December 06, 2018, 09:21:42 amI voted leave for the benefit of the nationStill waiting to leave how leaving will benefit the nation...Quote from: Axholme Lion on December 06, 2018, 09:21:42 amWhat this country need is a Putin or an Orban to take charge and drag us from the gutter and shackles of EU slavery.All I need to know is that if banks and big business say we should stay in, then the best option is to get out.These are the enemies of the people, who would rather pay some penniless roumanian two and sixpence to work all day in a field, and live ten to a caravan, rather than pay Brits a decent living wage. The globalist mafia will stop at nothing to keep us enslaved.And no. I am not on a wind up regarding Putin and Orban.ignoring this because your obviously on a wind up
BST, the lack of Leave voters response regarding the consequences of Brexit is because unlike many Remainers, they know that any future predictions are conjecture, and it would be hypocritical if they were to offer their expectations of the consequences of it as fact.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on December 06, 2018, 11:41:26 amBST, the lack of Leave voters response regarding the consequences of Brexit is because unlike many Remainers, they know that any future predictions are conjecture, and it would be hypocritical if they were to offer their expectations of the consequences of it as fact.What about things that are happening now? Like the slumping pound, the stagnant economy, or the criminal investigations into foreign money and illegal data harvesting that were put into practice by a hostile foreign power to destabilise the country?
Here's a figure to think about. Every 1% of GDP growth that we lose and don't recover would leave us £1trn worse off as a country over a decade. 1% GDP growth loss is the MINIMUM that is being predicted. And even the staunchest Brexit supporters accept that it would take us a decade to see serious benefits from enhanced trade with the rest of the world (although none of them say how these benefits would come about).£1trn is about £35,000 for every employed person in the country. £1trn would pay for about 4million new houses. £1trn would pay for a replacement of the entire motorway network. Twice a year. For a decade. £1trn would pay for 2000 new infirmaries. That is the MINIMUM we'll lose over a decade as a result of the very most optimistic Brexit scenarios. Do you REALLY want to shrug your shoulders and just assume all the predictions are wrong?
Of course we need more housing. We have a national crisis with lack of good quality low cost housing.Although at the risk of sounding condescending, you're kind of missing the point.
Do you actually live in the real world.?I know several young people like you describe and iPhones aside, they don’t have new cars nor go on expensive holidays, and saving for a mortgage deposit is very difficult, never mind getting a mortgage approved..
Considering we haven't even left the EU yet, is the present financial situation more a result of future uncertainty than an actual effect of Brexit?