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Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on December 10, 2018, 06:03:24 pmQuote from: Boomstick on December 10, 2018, 02:11:22 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on December 10, 2018, 01:43:45 pmGo on then BS. How do we proceed from here?Not "what do you want to happen?" "What, practically CAN happen?"Renegotiate with the EU (probably won't happen) or persuade MPs it's the only deal we will get . And when they inevitably fail? What will you do then?Wait and see. It's not failed yet
Quote from: Boomstick on December 10, 2018, 02:11:22 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on December 10, 2018, 01:43:45 pmGo on then BS. How do we proceed from here?Not "what do you want to happen?" "What, practically CAN happen?"Renegotiate with the EU (probably won't happen) or persuade MPs it's the only deal we will get . And when they inevitably fail? What will you do then?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on December 10, 2018, 01:43:45 pmGo on then BS. How do we proceed from here?Not "what do you want to happen?" "What, practically CAN happen?"Renegotiate with the EU (probably won't happen) or persuade MPs it's the only deal we will get .
Go on then BS. How do we proceed from here?Not "what do you want to happen?" "What, practically CAN happen?"
The Tories are running scared, they have issued a 3 line whip all week
Quote from: Filo on December 10, 2018, 08:13:10 pmThe Tories are running scared, they have issued a 3 line whip all weekI dare say they are worried about being ambushed by a No-Confidence vote. Although Corbyn seems loathe to push that particular button. Tactically I can see his point- if there's one thing that will unite the Tories it's a No-Confidence motion. On the other hand, the country is crying out for some leadership.
Quote from: The Red Baron on December 10, 2018, 08:23:54 pmQuote from: Filo on December 10, 2018, 08:13:10 pmThe Tories are running scared, they have issued a 3 line whip all weekI dare say they are worried about being ambushed by a No-Confidence vote. Although Corbyn seems loathe to push that particular button. Tactically I can see his point- if there's one thing that will unite the Tories it's a No-Confidence motion. On the other hand, the country is crying out for some leadership.Timing is everything, and at the minute no one is sure where the DUP lie
By the way she's done the right thing cancelling the vote. She had no chance to win it so why bother? Equally nobody will know why she accepted a deal nobody wanted.
Quote from: Filo on December 10, 2018, 08:27:29 pmQuote from: The Red Baron on December 10, 2018, 08:23:54 pmQuote from: Filo on December 10, 2018, 08:13:10 pmThe Tories are running scared, they have issued a 3 line whip all weekI dare say they are worried about being ambushed by a No-Confidence vote. Although Corbyn seems loathe to push that particular button. Tactically I can see his point- if there's one thing that will unite the Tories it's a No-Confidence motion. On the other hand, the country is crying out for some leadership.Timing is everything, and at the minute no one is sure where the DUP lieWherever is best for them as always.I'm not really sure where any party lies. Tories are a mess, labour critical but what policy? He lib dems are probably most clear but easy to say when you have zero power.
I'm not really sure where any party lies. Tories are a mess, labour critical but what policy? He lib dems are probably most clear but easy to say when you have zero power.
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on December 10, 2018, 08:37:34 pmQuote from: Filo on December 10, 2018, 08:27:29 pmQuote from: The Red Baron on December 10, 2018, 08:23:54 pmQuote from: Filo on December 10, 2018, 08:13:10 pmThe Tories are running scared, they have issued a 3 line whip all weekI dare say they are worried about being ambushed by a No-Confidence vote. Although Corbyn seems loathe to push that particular button. Tactically I can see his point- if there's one thing that will unite the Tories it's a No-Confidence motion. On the other hand, the country is crying out for some leadership.Timing is everything, and at the minute no one is sure where the DUP lieWherever is best for them as always.I'm not really sure where any party lies. Tories are a mess, labour critical but what policy? He lib dems are probably most clear but easy to say when you have zero power..... and they have Zero power because they got Votes totalling 2,415,916 (7.9% of the total Votes and got 8 Seats or 1.2% of the Seats in Parliament)Contrast that with Labour who got 9,347,273 Votes (30.4% of the total votes just about 4 times as many as Libs - but got 232 Seats or 35% of the Seats in Parliament)... and worst of all The DUP who have T May over a barrel - and screwed massive comcessions out of her to prop up this shambles of a Govt ?Votes 184,260 just 0.6% of the popular vote which gave them 8 Seats same as the Libs - for the same 1.2% of the Seats available, Enough to prop up MaybotPR needs to come and I hope it comes soon after this omnishambles
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on December 10, 2018, 08:37:34 pmI'm not really sure where any party lies. Tories are a mess, labour critical but what policy? He lib dems are probably most clear but easy to say when you have zero power.Ahem. Did you miss the fact that the party that has consistently stated that it wanted to remain in Europe lost 10% of its MP's last week when one of them resigned the whip so as to be able to vote for May's Brexit deal? How sick must he be today at destroying his political career over something that wont now happen!
https://mobile.twitter.com/JasonCowleyNS/status/1072189546211753984Amen to that.
Quote from: Boomstick on December 10, 2018, 06:12:38 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on December 10, 2018, 06:03:24 pmQuote from: Boomstick on December 10, 2018, 02:11:22 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on December 10, 2018, 01:43:45 pmGo on then BS. How do we proceed from here?Not "what do you want to happen?" "What, practically CAN happen?"Renegotiate with the EU (probably won't happen) or persuade MPs it's the only deal we will get . And when they inevitably fail? What will you do then?Wait and see. It's not failed yetWow, what a plan. Forgive for being underwhelmed. As useless as May is, even she knows the value of having a contingency plan. But not you, apparently.It's not failed yet? Yes it has - the EU aren't going to renegotiate and the Commons aren't going to vote for the deal. Now what?
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on December 10, 2018, 06:55:17 pmQuote from: Boomstick on December 10, 2018, 06:12:38 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on December 10, 2018, 06:03:24 pmQuote from: Boomstick on December 10, 2018, 02:11:22 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on December 10, 2018, 01:43:45 pmGo on then BS. How do we proceed from here?Not "what do you want to happen?" "What, practically CAN happen?"Renegotiate with the EU (probably won't happen) or persuade MPs it's the only deal we will get . And when they inevitably fail? What will you do then?Wait and see. It's not failed yetWow, what a plan. Forgive for being underwhelmed. As useless as May is, even she knows the value of having a contingency plan. But not you, apparently.It's not failed yet? Yes it has - the EU aren't going to renegotiate and the Commons aren't going to vote for the deal. Now what?The EU will negotiate on certain issuee, and the commons can be persuaded. Because if that doesn't happen, it's a hard brexit. To me it's the EU that are failing in keeping the 6th largest economy in their flawed political union.
Leadsom today openly questioning the impartiality of the Speaker of the House.
.... and they forget the irony of The (then) Speaker Betty Boothroyd (who was Labout MP for West Brom - and had to give that up as she became Speaker) had to use her Casting Vote when a crucial part of the Maastricht Vote in 1993 was tied.
more groundless claims from Brexit fans.what evidence is there that he EU is a 'flawed' political union ?