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Liam Fox must be one of the most dangerous people to our country at the moment. Fuelling the hard-brexit nationalistic rhetoric on the one hand, and doing back door preliminary trade deals that will progressively and systematically erode any form of national democratic sovereignty. And he'll gladly take a no-deal brexit to get there.If you want post-EU Britain that just acts as a fleeting staging post for global capital and large corporations, here's your man.
Are those advocating a hard brexit on board with a hard Irish border? ''No-deal Brexit would mean hard Irish border, EU confirms ''https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/22/no-deal-brexit-would-mean-hard-irish-border-eu-confirms
Interesting speech by Barnier today. He notes there is no point Mrs May even trying to reopen negotiations on the Irish backstop - but they would look favourably on a deal based on a permanent customs union as proposed by Labour.On a scale of 1 to 10, how well will that have gone down in Downing Street!https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/23/michel-barnier-warns-against-time-limited-irish-backstop
Quote from: wilts rover on January 23, 2019, 06:38:04 pmInteresting speech by Barnier today. He notes there is no point Mrs May even trying to reopen negotiations on the Irish backstop - but they would look favourably on a deal based on a permanent customs union as proposed by Labour.On a scale of 1 to 10, how well will that have gone down in Downing Street!https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/23/michel-barnier-warns-against-time-limited-irish-backstopProbably quite well if it helps May to get her deal approved.
Quote from: drfchound on January 23, 2019, 08:15:44 pmQuote from: wilts rover on January 23, 2019, 06:38:04 pmInteresting speech by Barnier today. He notes there is no point Mrs May even trying to reopen negotiations on the Irish backstop - but they would look favourably on a deal based on a permanent customs union as proposed by Labour.On a scale of 1 to 10, how well will that have gone down in Downing Street!https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/23/michel-barnier-warns-against-time-limited-irish-backstopProbably quite well if it helps May to get her deal approved.It was because of the backstop her deal got overwhelmingly voted down. So how is Barnier saying it's not up for negotiation going to overturn that?
But that would bring her Govt down. Because the DUP want us out of the CU.And that's before you factor in the fact that the majority of the Tory party are rabidly against the CU.[/quoteAnd so it goes on, the road to nowhere.
I have been saying for weeks that MPs should throw the points scoring in the bin for the sake of the rest of us.As we know, time is quickly running out but we are getting no further forward.No deal will be a major disaster for the UK.
And yet another prominent Brexit-supporting MP pocketing eye-watering amounts from a Brexit-supporting business. https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/politics/david-davis-paid-job-quit-brexit-secretary/amp/£3000/hour?I said last night that the penny would drop soon. At Davies's rates, you could drop a penny every 12milliseconds.
I think the business leaders quite rightly are giving the politicians a kick up the arse. We as voters are probably bewildered about the incompetence our leaders and Parliament thus far, but that is now turning to anger as the clock ticks.There are two very damaging possible outcomes that I fear will tear us apart. 1. No deal. 2 A second referendum.
Quote from: DonnyBazR0ver on January 24, 2019, 10:36:15 pmI think the business leaders quite rightly are giving the politicians a kick up the arse. We as voters are probably bewildered about the incompetence our leaders and Parliament thus far, but that is now turning to anger as the clock ticks.There are two very damaging possible outcomes that I fear will tear us apart. 1. No deal. 2 A second referendum........and yet the biggest vote on this thread goes to a second referendum.
Dear God. https://mobile.twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1088696249652572160James f**king Delingpole. UK editor of Breitbart. THE most humiliatingly ignorant right wing gobshite in the country, humiliating himself in front of the country by being an ignorant right-wing gobshite.
ravenrover. When you said "what amazes me" I assumed you found it amazing.Apologies if that's not the case.