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No surprise from Flint that.Only Labour new recruit tonight.The problem is "no deal" remains the default. Even when the HoC votes it out tomorrow, that does not bind the EU.They are only going to extend if there is a new proposal to discuss.So it is either Norway+, or a coming general election or Ref2.https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/12/theresa-may-mps-crisis-deal-delay-brexit1) No numbers for Ref2, at present. 2) Toxic Treeza steps down and a new leader takes over and seeks a GE mandate?3) Or we drift on to the end of March and crash out without a deal?Lets see if Norway+ comes out of the fog, eh!
Our emotional spasm in a nutshell. A Kantor poll a couple of days ago.Q. How important is it for you that after Brexit there is no right for EU citizens to live in the UK?Important 46%Not important 34%Q. How important is it for you that, after Brexit, UK citizens have the right to live in the EU?Important 56%Not important 24%You know what? Anyone who talks about respecting The Will of The People can f**k right off, because the Will of The People is batshit.
Thanks BS for once again demonstrating that yawning chasm between Input and Output where most of us have logical analysis. You:Input: WhateverOutput: Blah, blah, blah, tired and idiotic communism, lefty, socialist insult.What I would like (and it's a shame I have to spell it out, but I'm used to it by now) is a national debate where people are encouraged by politicians to f**king grow up and make some hard choices. Instead of what we've had for three years from Brexiters, which is that you can have everything you want, with sprinkles on top.
Whenever we leave, it's gonna be sweet seeing remainers pissing and bleeting about it.There's still a very good chance that will be 29th March.
Are you two Russian bots?
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on March 13, 2019, 11:01:44 amAre you two Russian bots?No. Just normal voters who would like to see the traitors in parliament carry out the will of the people rather than fulfil their own agenda.
Quote from: Axholme Lion on March 13, 2019, 11:49:16 amQuote from: DonnyOsmond on March 13, 2019, 11:01:44 amAre you two Russian bots?No. Just normal voters who would like to see the traitors in parliament carry out the will of the people rather than fulfil their own agenda.How do we know the will of the people hasn't changed in two years? MPs changed their minds in the space of a few weeks, so who says that 4% lead hasn't changed in over 2 years? And before you say do we keep just having vote after vote, Theresa has had vote after vote and it'll break the impasse. There is a majority against No Deal and we will see it tonight. No sensible person wants us to actually leave with no deal, they just want it on the table as a bargaining chip.
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on March 13, 2019, 12:19:53 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on March 13, 2019, 11:49:16 amQuote from: DonnyOsmond on March 13, 2019, 11:01:44 amAre you two Russian bots?No. Just normal voters who would like to see the traitors in parliament carry out the will of the people rather than fulfil their own agenda.How do we know the will of the people hasn't changed in two years? MPs changed their minds in the space of a few weeks, so who says that 4% lead hasn't changed in over 2 years? And before you say do we keep just having vote after vote, Theresa has had vote after vote and it'll break the impasse. There is a majority against No Deal and we will see it tonight. No sensible person wants us to actually leave with no deal, they just want it on the table as a bargaining chip.It interesting that on this forum which most of it's members are based in a very pro Brexit area are mainly remainers, however most of my mates in London which was a remain area are the polar opposite and are very much staunch Brexit.What this situation clearly shows is that many MPs are totally out of touch with their constituents and come the day of the next election supporters of all parties/Brexit or remain opinion should remember if their MP acted in their interests.
Quote from: Axholme Lion on March 13, 2019, 02:02:34 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on March 13, 2019, 12:19:53 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on March 13, 2019, 11:49:16 amQuote from: DonnyOsmond on March 13, 2019, 11:01:44 amAre you two Russian bots?No. Just normal voters who would like to see the traitors in parliament carry out the will of the people rather than fulfil their own agenda.How do we know the will of the people hasn't changed in two years? MPs changed their minds in the space of a few weeks, so who says that 4% lead hasn't changed in over 2 years? And before you say do we keep just having vote after vote, Theresa has had vote after vote and it'll break the impasse. There is a majority against No Deal and we will see it tonight. No sensible person wants us to actually leave with no deal, they just want it on the table as a bargaining chip.It interesting that on this forum which most of it's members are based in a very pro Brexit area are mainly remainers, however most of my mates in London which was a remain area are the polar opposite and are very much staunch Brexit.What this situation clearly shows is that many MPs are totally out of touch with their constituents and come the day of the next election supporters of all parties/Brexit or remain opinion should remember if their MP acted in their interests.There's a correlation between intelligence and whether you voted Brexit. People on here who can string two sentences together more than likely voted/want to remain. The people that can't spell their own name and aren't on here more than likely voted to leave. The education in our area had clearly let us down over the years.
He's basically saying poorer working class people have less intelligence than more affluent middle class people.The irony is that on another thread, he would argue against this.Typical remoaner, twisting the facts to suit their weak and failing viewpoints.
Quote from: Boomstick on March 13, 2019, 03:19:35 pmHe's basically saying poorer working class people have less intelligence than more affluent middle class people.The irony is that on another thread, he would argue against this.Typical remoaner, twisting the facts to suit their weak and failing viewpoints.I'm proud to be working class. I never went to university as we couldn't afford anything like that, but it never stopped me picking up a book to widen my knowledge. The middle classes really get up my wick looking down their nose at Mr Average when most of what they have is handed down by mummy and daddy.