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Have a think on this for a minute. Johnson is the clear favourite among the Tory party membership. What will be the consequences for the party if he is not in the final two for those members to vote for?
Quote from: wilts rover on May 26, 2019, 09:13:08 amHave a think on this for a minute. Johnson is the clear favourite among the Tory party membership. What will be the consequences for the party if he is not in the final two for those members to vote for?An interesting article on that subject Wilts:This prime minister was destroyed by Brexit. And the next one will be too. https://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2019/05/23/this-prime-minister-was-destroyed-by-brexit-and-the-next-oneWhich was linked to from this one:''The Tories have abandoned thought in favour of believing their own lies''https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/25/the-tories-have-abandoned-thought-in-favour-of-believing-their-own-lies
I think Corbyn would have wanted to shed a few more Blairites to Change UK before coming out more strongly on Ref2, but after the other nights results they are probs off to join libdem anyway so might as well do it now and go the deselection route with the Blairites.
So Thornberry and McDonnell have openly and publicly told Corbyn he's wrong and that Labour must clearly support Ref2. Thornberry on TV last night was clearly having trouble holding her temper when talking about Corbyn's policy of trying to ride both horses. Even Richard Burgon who has been steadfastly against Ref2 sounded like he's coming round to that on the radio this morning.Still, I'm sure they're all wrong and St Jeremy the Infallible has called it right all along...
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 27, 2019, 09:04:23 amSo Thornberry and McDonnell have openly and publicly told Corbyn he's wrong and that Labour must clearly support Ref2. Thornberry on TV last night was clearly having trouble holding her temper when talking about Corbyn's policy of trying to ride both horses. Even Richard Burgon who has been steadfastly against Ref2 sounded like he's coming round to that on the radio this morning.Still, I'm sure they're all wrong and St Jeremy the Infallible has called it right all along...Thornberry came across as the most arrogant person I think I've seen on tv on results night.
Quote from: Axholme Lion on May 28, 2019, 12:16:35 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 27, 2019, 09:04:23 amSo Thornberry and McDonnell have openly and publicly told Corbyn he's wrong and that Labour must clearly support Ref2. Thornberry on TV last night was clearly having trouble holding her temper when talking about Corbyn's policy of trying to ride both horses. Even Richard Burgon who has been steadfastly against Ref2 sounded like he's coming round to that on the radio this morning.Still, I'm sure they're all wrong and St Jeremy the Infallible has called it right all along...Thornberry came across as the most arrogant person I think I've seen on tv on results night.You obviously missed Mark Francois's egofest then.
Bad losers, again! Brexit is coming.
Quote from: Axholme Lion on May 28, 2019, 02:29:01 pmBad losers, again! Brexit is coming.Remind us again how it's going to benefit everyone, especially the working class?
ALI'm guessing you were too busy moaning about Liverpool to notice that interview where Farage said he didn't expect immigration to change much after Brexit.You really, really don't get the extent to which you're being played do you?Look at who runs the Brexit party. Look at who Farage's mates are. Look who the BP candidates were last week. Low grade City of London spivs and business people. The Britain they want is low taxes for them and low wages for UK companies. They KNOW how much you hate immigrants and they are playing to that. But the thought that they would lift a finger to make your life better is ridiculous.
Quote from: bobjimwilly on May 28, 2019, 07:22:40 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on May 28, 2019, 02:29:01 pmBad losers, again! Brexit is coming.Remind us again how it's going to benefit everyone, especially the working class?Thousands of Poles pushing down wages by taking work from those who need it most.
Quote from: Axholme Lion on May 29, 2019, 10:39:16 amQuote from: bobjimwilly on May 28, 2019, 07:22:40 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on May 28, 2019, 02:29:01 pmBad losers, again! Brexit is coming.Remind us again how it's going to benefit everyone, especially the working class?Thousands of Poles pushing down wages by taking work from those who need it most. Where do you get that thousands of Poles are pushing wages down from AL? Oh, I know, the Daily Mail! FFS, that myth has been disproved countless times, just more Brexit propaganda to sucker the gullible!