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Interesting how much the goalposts have shifted on Brexit. At first it was going to be the greatest thing ever, ushering in a great new era for Britain. There'd be a smile on the face of every child and money in everyone's pockets. Now we have Boris Johnson on stage waving a fish about and saying we will still have drinking water and planes will still fly. And people are still fired up about the whole thing. Truly strange times.
Quote from: MachoMadness on July 18, 2019, 10:57:35 amInteresting how much the goalposts have shifted on Brexit. At first it was going to be the greatest thing ever, ushering in a great new era for Britain. There'd be a smile on the face of every child and money in everyone's pockets. Now we have Boris Johnson on stage waving a fish about and saying we will still have drinking water and planes will still fly. And people are still fired up about the whole thing. Truly strange times.You're completely missing the point. People aren't fired up about the WHOLE thing; they're fired up about Parliament telling 17.4 million people to f*ck off.
Glyn , you have missed the point that MP's are only worried about being re elected, and don't give two hoots about their constituents. That's why the letter signed by twenty odd, with up to a reported another twenty plus labour MP's from their northern heartlands are saying they will now vote for Brexit.
SSWhy do you think.people are fired up about that?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on July 18, 2019, 08:07:41 pmSSWhy do you think.people are fired up about that?You know what I think. The people of this country gave Parliament a mandate 3 years ago. They've refused to deliver it.
SSWe've been over this for 3 years. Do you still not get the root cause of the problem?There is no one defined thing that is Brexit. THAT'S the problem. No one agrees in what it means. So saying "You got a mandate - get on with it!" is childish nonsense. Get on with WHAT? No Deal, May Deal, Canada Deal, Canada+, Norway Deal, Norway+? Every one of those would be A Brexit. But no-one can agree on which one the mandate was for Do you not see that? It's spellbindingly bleeding obvious!
And that oversimplification is exactly why binary referendums shouldn't be used on such complex issues.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on July 18, 2019, 10:56:48 pmSSWe've been over this for 3 years. Do you still not get the root cause of the problem?There is no one defined thing that is Brexit. THAT'S the problem. No one agrees in what it means. So saying "You got a mandate - get on with it!" is childish nonsense. Get on with WHAT? No Deal, May Deal, Canada Deal, Canada+, Norway Deal, Norway+? Every one of those would be A Brexit. But no-one can agree on which one the mandate was for Do you not see that? It's spellbindingly bleeding obvious!You're talking to a wall. I'm glad some MPs have rebelled and put country before themselves or their party.
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on July 18, 2019, 11:30:28 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on July 18, 2019, 10:56:48 pmSSWe've been over this for 3 years. Do you still not get the root cause of the problem?There is no one defined thing that is Brexit. THAT'S the problem. No one agrees in what it means. So saying "You got a mandate - get on with it!" is childish nonsense. Get on with WHAT? No Deal, May Deal, Canada Deal, Canada+, Norway Deal, Norway+? Every one of those would be A Brexit. But no-one can agree on which one the mandate was for Do you not see that? It's spellbindingly bleeding obvious!You're talking to a wall. I'm glad some MPs have rebelled and put country before themselves or their party.Before themselves and their REMAIN views? You're having a laugh if you expect us to swallow that.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on July 18, 2019, 10:56:48 pmSSWe've been over this for 3 years. Do you still not get the root cause of the problem?There is no one defined thing that is Brexit. THAT'S the problem. No one agrees in what it means. So saying "You got a mandate - get on with it!" is childish nonsense. Get on with WHAT? No Deal, May Deal, Canada Deal, Canada+, Norway Deal, Norway+? Every one of those would be A Brexit. But no-one can agree on which one the mandate was for Do you not see that? It's spellbindingly bleeding obvious!No, what's spellbindingly bleeding obvious is that the one thing you've missed off that list is THE thing that it's all about - REMAIN.The majority of Parliament want us to Remain, and are determined to block any form of Brexit. If you can't see that, then it's me who's talking to a wall.