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Boris solution to ditching the backstop? He wants goods going from GB to NI or vice versa to have a Customs Declaration, because that's where the checks are going to happen!
Soooo, what happens if the EU won’t accept his proposed deal, won’t give yet another extension and Parliament say he is legally bound to avoid no deal.
Quote from: drfchound on October 02, 2019, 03:56:35 pmSoooo, what happens if the EU won’t accept his proposed deal, won’t give yet another extension and Parliament say he is legally bound to avoid no deal.That's not what Parliament said.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on October 02, 2019, 04:01:13 pmQuote from: drfchound on October 02, 2019, 03:56:35 pmSoooo, what happens if the EU won’t accept his proposed deal, won’t give yet another extension and Parliament say he is legally bound to avoid no deal.That's not what Parliament said.I didn’t suggest that they had.IDM did.
Yeah but I asked what happens if the EU won’t give another extension.
If there isn't a deal put before Parliament, or if Parliament rejects a deal put before them, then Boris has to ask for an extension by 31st Oct. It didn't make No Deal impossible.
Quote from: drfchound on October 02, 2019, 04:17:13 pmYeah but I asked what happens if the EU won’t give another extension.If Boris asks for the extension, he's complied with the Benn Act, Parliament cant force the EU to give one. If MPs want to stop No Deal in those circumstances they'll have to do something else. It'd probably force them to bang their heads together and work something out so they can introduce a VONC with the certainty of there being a replacement (albeit temporary) Government that commands a majority and gets the reins out of Boris's and Cummings' hands.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on October 02, 2019, 05:18:56 pmQuote from: drfchound on October 02, 2019, 04:17:13 pmYeah but I asked what happens if the EU won’t give another extension.If Boris asks for the extension, he's complied with the Benn Act, Parliament cant force the EU to give one. If MPs want to stop No Deal in those circumstances they'll have to do something else. It'd probably force them to bang their heads together and work something out so they can introduce a VONC with the certainty of there being a replacement (albeit temporary) Government that commands a majority and gets the reins out of Boris's and Cummings' hands.Thanks for that explanation.However, what you say is all well and good but.........we have no guarantee that whatever the interim government came up with, that the EU would accept it.We also don’t know whether we would be allowed a further extension.Genuinely, what happens then?
Quote from: drfchound on October 02, 2019, 05:34:55 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on October 02, 2019, 05:18:56 pmQuote from: drfchound on October 02, 2019, 04:17:13 pmYeah but I asked what happens if the EU won’t give another extension.If Boris asks for the extension, he's complied with the Benn Act, Parliament cant force the EU to give one. If MPs want to stop No Deal in those circumstances they'll have to do something else. It'd probably force them to bang their heads together and work something out so they can introduce a VONC with the certainty of there being a replacement (albeit temporary) Government that commands a majority and gets the reins out of Boris's and Cummings' hands.Thanks for that explanation.However, what you say is all well and good but.........we have no guarantee that whatever the interim government came up with, that the EU would accept it.We also don’t know whether we would be allowed a further extension.Genuinely, what happens then?If the Temporary Government managed to get the reins before 1st Oct and then requested an extension for the specific reason of having a General Election and/or a second referendum - which are both specific events that can change the political nature of the UK, then I think the EU would allow an extension. The problem we have at the moment is that we'd be asking for an extension 'just because' and not for any quantifiable reason.