Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

[DonnyOsmond]

Marr - "Did you declare the interest with Jennifer Arcuri?"

Johnson response - "Mayor of London needs to invest in police officers and not his own press releases. Also, get Brexit done."

[DonnyOsmond]

People are starting to think that Johnson has been talking to Orban to get him to reject the extension. In that way Johnson won't be breaking the law but we'll be leaving at the end of October.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I can see the play.

Cummings wants the world to think he's got a fantastic plan to thwart Parliament and enable No Deal.

That is intended to spook MPs into panicking and having a No Confidence vote this week, putting Corbyn in as temporary PM. Corbyn then goes to Brussels to ask for A50 extension. Cummings then paints Corbyn as The One Who Surrendered" in the subsequent election.

f**k him.

I hope the other parties stand firm and force Johnson to eat the soup that Cummings has prepared.

There is no cunning plan to get round this. Johnson WILL have to ask for A50 extension and that will badly damage him.in the Election.

[wilts rover]

People are starting to think that Johnson has been talking to Orban to get him to reject the extension. In that way Johnson won't be breaking the law but we'll be leaving at the end of October.

I noticed that the MoS front page is condemning British poliiticans talking to their European counterparts as 'foreign collusion'. Of course asking foreign leaders to block the will of our sovereign parliament is what they are talking about right?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Wilts.

You mean like this?
https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/politics/2019/01/24/calls-for-shrewsbury-mp-to-publish-brexit-letter-to-polish-government/

[DonnyOsmond]

Wilts.

You mean like this?
https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/politics/2019/01/24/calls-for-shrewsbury-mp-to-publish-brexit-letter-to-polish-government/

Send him back to where he came from

[albie]

I reckon folk need to pay more attention to the interview with Rachel Johnson on R4 that I posted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4_d7tBa4L4&app=desktop
About 3 min 15 sec in.

Unprompted by the interviewer, she suggests either Cummings or Hedge Fund backers might explain the actions of Borump.

Maybe the two work in tandem......the strategy Cummings might follow is set by the need to satisfy the interests of financial backers?

Food for thought here:
https://bylinetimes.com/2019/09/23/brexit-disaster-capitalism-are-boris-johnsons-hedge-fund-backers-driving-policy/

It does raise the question of what do the backers get back for their support if it is not a profit opportunity from the ability to direct events?

[BillyStubbsTears]

So.

Who to believe on this one?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49873301

He's genuinely repulsive isn't he?

[wilts rover]

Albie

It's interesting that Rachel Johnson's claims about the Brexit hedge-fund backers wanting No Deal because they have bet on crashing the £ was also put forward by that other noted left wing radical, Phillip Hammond.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/i-no-longer-recognise-this-party-of-radicals-cpdmxcxwf

and now by a senior ex-civil servant

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/29/ex-top-civil-servant-hammond-was-right-to-query-no-deal-backers

[SydneyRover]

Sydney Morning Herald (centre right news)

On Monday The Sun newspaper reported “bitter rows” between Johnson and Crosby, among other close long-standing allies now complaining of being “shut out” of the PM’s inner circle.

A Conservative Party source told The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age there had been rumours of a clash of personality, temperament and tactics between Crosby and 10 Downing Street’s chief of staff, Dominic Cummings.

If bridges aren’t mended the Conservatives could be left without the man they consider one of their best tacticians for the next general election, with a vote expected before the end of the year.

The rumour also had Johnson’s partner Carrie Symonds – a former Conservative Party head of communications - involved in the split.

“There was a big bust-up … it is a complete rupture,” the source said.

The Sun reported that Crosby had clashed with Johnson over “Ms Symonds' strong influence”, though it also reported Crosby and Johnson were still exchanging texts or calls “every week or so”.

During Johnson’s Tory leadership bid the pair reportedly spoke every day.
Boris Johnson's chief of staff Dominic Cummings.

Boris Johnson's chief of staff Dominic Cummings.Credit:AP

An unnamed former close ally of the PM’s told The Sun: “The Cummings experiment has palpably failed, but Boris will not turn the ship.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/reports-of-rift-between-boris-johnson-and-australian-political-guru-20190930-p52w5l.html

[BillyStubbsTears]

What the f**k is going on with the BBC.

Johnson stands accused of sexual assault and corruption.

This interviewer asks him two limp questions then stands there in silence as he spends THREE MINUTES ignoring the questions and reel off policy aspirations

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49877508

What the f**king hell is going on there?

[Not Now Kato]

What the f**k is going on with the BBC.

Johnson stands accused of sexual assault and corruption.

This interviewer asks him two limp questions then stands there in silence as he spends THREE MINUTES ignoring the questions and reel off policy aspirations

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49877508

What the f**king hell is going on there?

It's not called the Brexit Broadcasting Corporation for nothing BST!

[Donnywolf]

Andrew Marr let him off lightly as well - and just let him off to do a "must deliver on the will of the British people blah blah blah stuff whilst totally ignoring the real question

Not nearly as robust as he was with May and the Trident accidental launch

[drfchound]

Hang in a minute lads, don’t all politicians avoid answering the question then ramble on about something else.
Nothing new really.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Hound.

If they do, I expect the I reviewed to intervene, not stand there like a chuffing dummy for 3 minutes.

Find me a single example of Jeremy Corbyn ever been treated in the same way.

She should have interrupted after 10 seconds and insisted that he answer the question. That wasn't an interview. It was a party political broadcast.

[drfchound]

I am not disputing that though BST.
Just stating a fact that politicians rarely answer a question with a proper answer.

[SydneyRover]

I've gotta say you're right on that Hound, we need more interviewers to stand up to them and demand answers, this wishy washy crap doesn't help anyone.

[drfchound]

I've gotta say you're right on that Hound, we need more interviewers to stand up to them and demand answers, this wishy washy crap doesn't help anyone.

It has been the same for years.
The problem is that politicians can speak for five minutes without stopping or drawing breath.
Interviewers sometimes try to cut in but the politician just keeps rattling on.
Eventually the allocated time for the slot draws to an end and the interviewer says something like, “ok, thanks for that, we are out of time so will have to leave it there.”

[scawsby steve]

I've gotta say you're right on that Hound, we need more interviewers to stand up to them and demand answers, this wishy washy crap doesn't help anyone.

It has been the same for years.
The problem is that politicians can speak for five minutes without stopping or drawing breath.
Interviewers sometimes try to cut in but the politician just keeps rattling on.
Eventually the allocated time for the slot draws to an end and the interviewer says something like, “ok, thanks for that, we are out of time so will have to leave it there.”

Yeah Hound, but don't you know that regarding them as all the same is deemed on here to be "lazy thinking"?

[drfchound]

I've gotta say you're right on that Hound, we need more interviewers to stand up to them and demand answers, this wishy washy crap doesn't help anyone.

It has been the same for years.
The problem is that politicians can speak for five minutes without stopping or drawing breath.
Interviewers sometimes try to cut in but the politician just keeps rattling on.
Eventually the allocated time for the slot draws to an end and the interviewer says something like, “ok, thanks for that, we are out of time so will have to leave it there.”

Yeah Hound, but don't you know that regarding them as all the same is deemed on here to be "lazy thinking"?

Ha, yes I saw that.
More like lazy interviewing I suppose.
It doesnt matter though because these MPs are trained in not answering.

[turnbull for england]

Wow, this has to be a wind up
  https://twitter.com/KTHopkins/status/1178589278311522304?s=19

[BillyStubbsTears]

Christ up above, Turnbull, do you mind. I've got to sleep tonight.

[drfchound]

Wow, this has to be a wind up
  https://twitter.com/KTHopkins/status/1178589278311522304?s=19

They do say that beauty is in the eye of beholder.

[turnbull for england]

It'll be dustier than than the back of the fridge, but that's hardly the point. How can anyone really say that with a clean conscience

[BillyStubbsTears]

She is a truly hideous person. I wonder what trauma she has experienced in life to end up so determined to spew out such repulsiveness.

[albie]

As the media can't be bothered with journalism any more, it is worth keeping a tally of the fake  news Johnson fronts up;
https://insider.labour.org.uk/factcheck/100-days-boris-johnson-lying/

There is so much of it that it's difficult to keep up with the lad.

[Donnywolf]

Also I remember he was sacked as Foriegn Secretary (or something similar) and would not get out of the Mansion that goes with that job till HE was ready

[DonnyOsmond]

https://youtu.be/yEk6zGYwyhc

The first two minutes of this is like Johnson/Cummings.

[BillyStubbsTears]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49890199

Boris Johnson has rejected leaked claims overnight that the government has proposed "customs clearance zones" to tackle the Irish border issue.

So the Govt will have been planning to have customs clearance zones then.

[Donnywolf]

LOL yes absolutely certain.

Politicians say one thing but do another in typical Politician style (same as I can remember for 50 years)

Whatever happens EU wise - I do not trust one word that Johnson says . He is a serial liar.