Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Just electioneering.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49950188

Every syllable that dribbles out of his lying mouth is just about the upcoming election. He's spinning the line that it's all about the devious cheating bas**rds in Brussels.

Who's got so little self-respect that they are actually prepared to swallow this?

Give me an alternative I'm crying out for it.....

[glosterred]

Don’t all politicians electioneer from the day after they were elected, therefore what’s new in this?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Glos.

The issue is that he's claiming to be negotiating the Brexit deal when he's actually doing nothing of the sort.

[BillyStubbsTears]

BFYP

You haven't got one on the Right. That's the problem. You've got a choice between a Brexit Party and a Tory Party, both of which are headed by pathological liars.

[SydneyRover]

johnson is apparently having a late night deleting the last 10 years of emails.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Next stage of the electioneering.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49970267

All predicted several weeks ago.

He starts off full of enthusiasm. "It's a million to one chance that we won't get a deal agreed."

Sets up the EU as the problem. "We can get a deal if the EU genuinely wants to show some flexibility."

Repeat from July to October. Whilst not proposing any form of deal.

Then produce a, frankly, insulting proposal for a deal.

Then this. "The EU has budged not one centimetre and we're preparing for a breakdown in talks."

Does anyone, anywhere actually buy this?

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

It's a predictable strategy.

Some talk that the EU are calling for NI to be permanently tied to the EU with Merkel saying "forever".  Isn't that actually quite a positive for the Brexiteers in this strategy by saying well "we told you so all along"?  Like it or not with that kind of talk no deal chances do increase.

They should actually be concerned with the talk that the UK if still within the EU will cause trouble, that doesn't just massively affect our country but 27 others also.

The real crux of course is that they know a GE will come in the next 2 months and the government is actually right that having no threat of no deal has given the EU no need to change their view. 

The real irony was an interview with some who'd been at the opposition talks yesterday basically saying they don't yet need to agree on who would lead a so called government of unity as the deadline for deciding it isn't this week - somewhat ironic they've taken that point away from the government.

It is a shame that both sides appear to be just going with a hostile non agreement, neither side will compromise enough.

[BillyStubbsTears]

BFYP

They should actually be concerned with the talk that the UK if still within the EU will cause trouble, that doesn't just massively affect our country but 27 others also.

Yes, that's going to end well isn't it. Stomp about like a petulant teenagers, smashing all the crockery in the house because you've been told you can't go out. And presumably, sometime after that when we'd finally left, we'd expect the EU to sit down in a friendly manner and negotiate a trade deal with us? Really?

the government is actually right that having no threat of no deal has given the EU no need to change their view.

It's actually quite frightening that intelligent people like you have swallowed this one. No Deal was never a credible threat. Ever. Full stop. It is never a credible negotiating strategy to threaten to hurt yourself if you don't get your way. The idea that threatening to walk away from the negotiating table gives us power is ridiculous. It's based on these stupid analogies with negotiating to buy a house or a car. Of COURSE in those situations you reserve the right to walk away. And by doing so, nothing has changed. You revert to the status quo ante.

If we leave with No Deal, we're not reverting to the status quo. We're walking into an economic and social disaster. And no sane Govt would choose to do that. It'd be beyond stupid. So it's simply not a credible threat.

Both of these two points are just electioneering. If the electorate is prepared to swallow them, maybe we deserve a pathological liar as PM.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Anyway. The crunch point is here.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Peston/status/1181500469690195968

For what it's worth, I don't for a second believe Merkel has repeatedly said the NI has to stay in the CU forever. That's yet more spin from Cummings.

Of course, NI WILL have to stay in the CU forever. Everyone knows that. There's no way to save the GFA without that. That's just a fact. But it would be stupid for Merkel to say it because it would be the EU giving Johnson his election quote. "We  never desert NI so this is the EU preventing all of us from leaving."

[BillyStubbsTears]

Here's the choice at the election by the way.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChrisGiles_/status/1181443140143779840

You can have Johnson and No Deal (because we're not leaving with a deal now). Or you can have Corbyn, dump Brexit and by 2022, the economy is better performing by nearly £2000 for every man woman and child in the country.

And I repeat, this is not lefties making these claims. It's hard headed capitalist economists.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Why do journalists keep using phrases like "A No10 source" when everyone knows it is "Egotistical maniac Dominic Cummings"?

This. Here. Just...so far beyond sanity. And he's running the Govt.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Peston/status/1181334406751035393

[DonnyOsmond]

Why do journalists keep using phrases like "A No10 source" when everyone knows it is "Egotistical maniac Dominic Cummings"?

This. Here. Just...so far beyond sanity. And he's running the Govt.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Peston/status/1181334406751035393

F*ck yeah. Goulash for all.

[foxbat]

The top 50 achievements of Boris Johnson, Prime Minister

grim/unbelievable reading

Yes: the actual Prime Minister. Of us. and people support him !! ???

1.Invented lie about EU law on straight bananas
2.Invented lie about EU banning prawn cocktails
3.Invented lie about EU introducing mandatory smaller coffins
4.Invented lie about EU demanding plastic wrapping around kippers
5.Lied that 80 million people from Turkey would come to UK if we didn't leave EU
6.Sacked from The Times for inventing a quote then lying about having invented it
7.Found guilty of misrepresenting facts by IPSO
8.Sacked from Tory front-bench for lying about an affair
9.Accused of misuse of public funds, because it appears he gave £126,000, for no valid reason, to a pole-dancer he boasted he was having an affair with.
10.Recorded discussing a plot to break a journalist's ribs and give him "a couple of black eyes" in a conversation with his friend Darius Guppy, a convicted fraudster
11.Referred to Commonwealth citizens as "picaninnies", racist term for black children.
12.Described black people as having "watermelon smiles"
13.Forced by Telegraph to apologise for describing the people of Papua New Guinea as "cannibals"
14.Suggested reinstating British control over former colonies - essentially restarting The Empire
15.Campaigned to have a deal before we leave the EU, and to stay in the Single Market
16.… then sacked 21 of his own MPs, including the longest-serving MP and Winston Churchill's grandson, for voting to get a deal before we leave the EU and to stay in the Single Market
17.Wrote insulting poem about the people of Turkey, then "apologised" to the President of Turkey by complimenting his washing machine 18.Questioned the repeal of the ban on producing information about homosexuality
19.Wrote an article scoring female delegates to the Labour Party conference on his "tottyometer" 20.Said "Voting Tory will cause your wife to have bigger breasts"
21.Described gay men as "bum-boys"
22.Said "Islamophobia — fear of Islam — seems a natural reaction"
23.Said the UK must accept that "Islam is the problem"
24.Referred to Muslim women as looking like "bank robbers" and "post-boxes"
 25.Blamed Hillsborough on Liverpool fans, then described the victims as "whingeing scousers"
26.Found to have broken the Ministerial Code by failing to declare income
27.Said Libya could be the new Dubai if "they clear the dead bodies away"
28.Recited racist colonial-era poem in Buddhist temple, and had to be stopped and castigated by the British Ambassador
29. At  the World Islamic Economic Forum, said that Malaysian women only attended university in order to find husbands
30. Got  a British Citizen, Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe, jailed in Iran because he mistakenly called her a spy
31.Bought water cannon that are illegal to use in the UK at a cost of £333,000. They were sold for scrap, unused
32.Doubled rough-sleeping when he was Mayor of London
33.Spent £46m on a garden bridge that had absolutely zero construction done
34. As  Mayor of London, spent £500,000 on a cable-car - the most expensive ever built - that has an average of 4 daily users
35. Claimed he had introduced Oyster cards. They were introduced 5 years before he became Mayor
36. As  Mayor, claimed he had made serious youth crime fall, when Met figures showed the opposite
 37.Promised £350m a week for NHS (at time of writing, owes NHS £57.7 billion)
 38.Had police called to his house during his actual job interview as PM
39.Refused to take part in any debates when campaigning to become PM 40.Said "f**k business" when presented with concerns about Brexit
41.Refuses to admit how many children he has
42.Broke the law by illegally proroguing parliament to shut down debate
43.Broke the record for the most parliamentary defeats in a day, then next day, broke it again
 44.Has been accused of 2 acts of sexual harassment. Entirely coincidentally, he has said
 investigations into accusations of sexual harassment were "spaffing money up the wall
45.Called himself The Hulk because he wanted to appear tough, then refused to take part in a press conference because he might be jeered at
46.Lied, on camera, about there being no press present when confronted by a distraught father in a hospital "
47.Said, on camera, that claims of death threats against female PMs were "humbug"
48.Days later, said, on camera, that he had never said "humbug"
49.His own brother resigned rather than work with him
50.His own sister says he is "highly reprehensible"

[SydneyRover]

Maybe there needs to be a new look at education as the conservative party for all their private schooling and attendance at the best unis in the country, when presented with an open goal for over 3 years have fought over the ball and who is to take the kick.

[Donnywolf]

51 Johnson resisted Whitehall’s demands to leave his grace and favour residence for weeks after quitting as foreign secretary

[Not Now Kato]

https://twitter.com/johnsweeneyroar/status/1181259274330214400

[BillyStubbsTears]

Interesting NNK.

But this.
https://mobile.twitter.com/stephen_latham/status/1181484954510860289

[Not Now Kato]

Interesting NNK.

But this.
https://mobile.twitter.com/stephen_latham/status/1181484954510860289

Indeed BST.
 
A couple of my friends yesterday referred to 'issues' within the 'hierarchy' of the EU, yet failed to see the parallels within the 'hierarchy' of our own government; and not just it's leader either!
 
As my Dad used to say, there's none so blind as them as can't see!

[SydneyRover]

''PM concludes his speech with a plea for 'fairness''

"Lets go with our vision for a Britain where fairness and balance are at the heart of what we do," he says

I always said johnson's a complete tw@t but he's always good for a larf.

[SydneyRover]

''I'll die in a ditch''

So are we expecting johnson a man of integrity, a man of his word our beloved PM to resign if the UK doesn't brexit on the due date?

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

He has a way out, if he gets his deal he'll extend to get the technical bits through but not for long.

If he doesn't get a deal, it'll be forced extension then election.  Obviously for him if he gets a deal and it's voted down he's in a great place of saying get me a majority and Brexit's done in days...  The whole rationale of the opposition was that he didn't want a deal, he's proven that wrong but he's still got to actually do it (and it has to be sensible, but the limited sounds are that it might be).

[BillyStubbsTears]

In what way has he "proven that wrong"?

This is all about optics. It's about giving the impression of negotiating honestly so that you're well positioned when the blame is apportioned.

[Donnywolf]

I did say right at the beginning (day after Ref) that the vote was too devisive and eventually the Politicians would hand it back to the people so they (the Politicians) could blame the people

i.e. they had us under pressure for another vote and we have capitulated and b****r me - they have changed their minds

I'm not right yet of course

[Donnywolf]

''I'll die in a ditch''

So are we expecting johnson a man of integrity, a man of his word our beloved PM to resign if the UK doesn't brexit on the due date?

Absolutely NOT unless he is pushed in that ditch by the Heathrow Bulldozers he said he would lie in front of

He had a nerve today pouring scorn on Bulgarian "racism" too after he came out with those (recorded) statements re ethnic minorities who live here


One bit of praise - I thought his Airport scheme in the Thames Estuary DID look a good idea. Nobody took that seriously unless it was a no hoper BUT they did do something similar in Hong Kong and that is working well as far as I know

[foxbat]

LabourAgainstBrexit #FBPE‏ @Labour4EU

LabourAgainstBrexit #FBPE Retweeted Laura Kuenssberg

Shouldn't this start with "Despite me reporting this isn't going to happen for a month...."

PM confirmed to Tusk that letter is being sent tonight as per Benn Act seeking a delay - also speaking to Merkel and Macron

[SydneyRover]

What's the score, how many times has johnson won a vote as PM in parliament? how many times has he lost?

And despite all the bull and bluster:

''Boris Johnson confirms he will seek Brexit delay, says Brussels

Donald Tusk says he is ‘waiting for letter’ that PM promised in phone call after Commons vote''

Johnson has confirmed in a phone call with the European council president Donald Tusk that he is sending a letter requesting a further Brexit delay beyond 31 October.

Despite the prime minister’s insistence that he would not “negotiate” a further extension of the UK’s membership of the EU, he confirmed on Saturday evening that he would be seeking such an extension.

“Waiting for the letter,” Tusk tweeted. “I just talked to PM Boris Johnson about the situation after the vote in the House of Commons.”

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/19/eu-will-grant-brexit-extension-if-johnson-sends-letter-says-brussels

So on the same day, within hours of saying he will not negotiate another extension he rings Mr Tusk and states the opposite.

Put your hands up if you would vote for this man or his party.

[wilts rover]

So he sent the letter then. Anyone know where the ditch is he chose to die in? Or will that be another broken promise...

https://twitter.com/eucopresident/status/1185661904427143171

[Campsall rover]

What's the score, how many times has johnson won a vote as PM in parliament? how many times has he lost?

And despite all the bull and bluster:

''Boris Johnson confirms he will seek Brexit delay, says Brussels

Donald Tusk says he is ‘waiting for letter’ that PM promised in phone call after Commons vote''

Johnson has confirmed in a phone call with the European council president Donald Tusk that he is sending a letter requesting a further Brexit delay beyond 31 October.

Despite the prime minister’s insistence that he would not “negotiate” a further extension of the UK’s membership of the EU, he confirmed on Saturday evening that he would be seeking such an extension.

“Waiting for the letter,” Tusk tweeted. “I just talked to PM Boris Johnson about the situation after the vote in the House of Commons.”

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/19/eu-will-grant-brexit-extension-if-johnson-sends-letter-says-brussels

So on the same day, within hours of saying he will not negotiate another extension he rings Mr Tusk and states the opposite.

Put your hands up if you would vote for this man or his party.

He is trying to get Brexit done. Which is what the majority asked for. We had a referendum Sydney.
Yes over 3 years ago and all you anti Brexit lot who won’t accept the result of a democratic vote are doing everything to stop it happening. You call that democracy do you?
Prefer Corbyn would you. God help us all if he was PM. We will be running to the IMF in a matter of months if he tries to do what he says he will do.

I voted remain Sydney and i was on the losing side. I have accepted we will be leaving.
Democracy must win why can’t you understand that.

[SydneyRover]

CR, he's only trying to ''get it done'' to save his own and his party's collective arses not for the country that much is clear to anyone that looks at the progression of negotiations to this point, the red lines the lies, one has to be 18yo to vote why do we have a child for PM?

''The prime minister sent three letters: an unsigned photocopy of the request he was obliged to send under the Benn Act, an explanatory letter from the UK’s ambassador to the EU and a personal letter explaining why Downing Street did not want an extension.

In the signed message, he warned of the “corrosive impact” of a long delay, and that “a further extension would damage the interests of the UK and our EU partners, and the relationship between us”. He said Parliament had “missed the opportunity to inject momentum into the ratification process” yet remained confident Brexit legislation would be passed by 31 October.''

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/19/eu-will-grant-brexit-extension-if-johnson-sends-letter-says-brussels

[DonnyOsmond]

Wanting to leave with the best possible deal and one that brings the country together, not just appeals to the 52% is not undemocratic. It's sensible to not want us to crash out of the EU and have no access to medicines which people require to live. We're the ones who are patriotic as we want to keep the union together, not push away NI and piss off Scotland till they leave. We might be pro-European but we're also pro-UK.