Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

[Filo]

Biggest thieves in the Country them

https://twitter.com/lbc/status/1194583963492397058

[BillyStubbsTears]

"Why has it taken you 6 days to come here?"

"Well, ahh, yes...err...I was up in Derbyshire last week."

Yes. You were you pathetic excuse for a man. You were there spending 30 seconds in a disgusting photo-op, pretending to mop up with a witless f**king gurning grin on your face. Because that was your first instinctive response to folk having their lives tipped upside down.

[drfchound]

Looks a bit out of his comfort zone here

https://twitter.com/joepike/status/1194694105013608455

Interesting tweet there too by Pike about Corbyn lack of comment on his Brexit position.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Stop and have a think.

What do you reckon his reaction was to this when he was safely out of the view of the cameras and the microphones?

What do you reckon he thinks of these people who have publicly told him what they think of him?

Bear in mind that he, the leader of the Party of Business, responded in private to concerns from business leaders about Brexit with "f**k business."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/8075e68c-7857-11e8-8e67-1e1a0846c475

That's how he responds to criticisms from people on his side.

What do you reckon he REALLY thinks about folk in Donny who have been flooded out of their homes?

[scawsby steve]

Stop and have a think.

What do you reckon his reaction was to this when he was safely out of the view of the cameras and the microphones?

What do you reckon he thinks of these people who have publicly told him what they think of him?

Bear in mind that he, the leader of the Party of Business, responded in private to concerns from business leaders about Brexit with "f**k business."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/8075e68c-7857-11e8-8e67-1e1a0846c475

That's how he responds to criticisms from people on his side.

What do you reckon he REALLY thinks about folk in Donny who have been flooded out of their homes?

I take your point BST. It reminds me of Gordon Brown when questioned by a woman about her genuine concerns over immigration. He waited until he was away from her before uttering "bigoted woman".

Just saying.

[SydneyRover]

Again you have to consider whether it is an isolated incident, granted, not nice to hear or is it DNA, will he do anything if he gets in? can you take the man at his word, what is his word worth?

[BillyStubbsTears]

SS
Yes, and for that, Brown got crucified.

What was lost in the foment was reason WHY Brown said that.

He'd just spent 5 minutes talking with her about policy issues, answering questions as she raised issue after issue. Treating her courteously and as an intelligent human being. Then she suddenly moved onto immigration and said "All these Eastern Europeans coming over here. Where are they flocking from?"

I'd have reacted like he did, because she's goading him. And using classic racist language that dehumanises the immigrant. Turning them into a "flock" not individual humans.

He didn't bat an eyelid. He tried to carry on treating her courteously and discussing with her. Then he blew off in the car. And he was right. She WAS out of order using language like that.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DCTr8IVWBuPE&ved=2ahUKEwjYruzap-jlAhXTesAKHd0hAEEQo7QBMAB6BAgAEAI&usg=AOvVaw30BvYTEXWotp0zXaZ6gJXk

Go and watch the full video.

The response he was hammered for didn't come from a basic lack of human decency. Quite the opposite. A fundamentally moral a decent politician whose life work was based on serving the working classes, have a string of poorly formed criticisms chucked at him, and responding with frustration when he thought he was in private.

Not really the same as a politician f**king a mistress and lying about it to his boss, making a career of lying in the press until he gets caught, conspiring with a Bullingdon Club mate to have a journalist beaten up or being shooed away from difficult encounters with the public by his minders because he's unable to respond with more than vague hand gestures.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Johnson proves once again that he's really down wid da haps of dat Northern part o da country.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.chad.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-pledges-to-return-to-mansfield-and-ashfield-to-address-unanswered-questions-1-10099047/amp

Speaking to the Mansfield Chad, he promises to visit the town, saying, "I can't wait to get back up to Derbyshire..."

Remember that media savvy Johnson who controlled the agenda and had folk eating out of his hand? I reckon he's been kidnapped and replaced by Theresa May in a big fat Boris Johnson fancy dress outfit.

[Donnywolf]

I have watched the Tory Party in action for 50 years plus and they have their agenda of course

Some PMs have put it over in a more humane way (even though you knew they were still doing "it") and some gave the attitude that we have a majority and we are going to use it

I have however never seen anybody in the PM position that looks so out of place - so indicisive - so wishy washy - so inept (looking and acting) as the current incumbent. He seems to be the classic "see his cogs whirring" as he is speaking and promises what he thinks the people want to hear (either a single interviewer or when meaning the population).
This morning on BBC Breakfast he looked out of his depth with Naga Munchetty doing the interview so is he truly the best they can do ?
(Yes I realise this will be open to ripostes about Jeremy Corbyn who I dont rate either BUT I am talking about Johnson being so inept himself)

[Donnywolf]

TBF - I have always given him credit for proposing the mega Airport situated in the Thames estuary. A huge and brilliant vision with 4 runways that would have been great had anyone listened.

There credit where it was due - it worked for Hong Kong anyway

[SydneyRover]

The HK airport is built away from HK Island and away from where most people live, it's about 40min on a v-fast metro, sticking an airport in the river means a whole lot of noise especially as it reflects off the water. I live under a flight path and even with a rotating take off/landing schedule plus a curfew it gets on your tits a bit.

[Donnywolf]

Probably true - as I live beneath the DSA Flightpath and notice most planes of which there are few so multiplied up that would be a problem especially if you are nearer the Airport that I am to this one

I just wanted to be balanced and give him that credit - although it may have been chucked out by the "experts" for being rubbish

[wilts rover]

In the 2017 Diane Abbott was slaughtered for forgetting the figures relating to a policy she was announcing during a radio interview.

Today Johnson was hopelessly wrong on the figures relating to a major policy (he said the ratio of non-EU to EU immigration was 50:50 - it isn't and hasn't been for years its 80:20 - the new Tory immigration policy being announced only yesterday) during a combined radio/tv interview.

Where are the howls of outrage? What might differentiate between the black female politician and the former old Etonian that explain this?

https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1195283962874224640

[SydneyRover]

misrepresentations and lying due to johnson & trump is the new normal for the hard right and the media expects it and it is part of Cummings strategy, right or wrong flood the airwaves with anything but don't allow them to talk about labour. Corbyn announces a policy to extract money from tax evading companies to pay for urgently needed infrasructure that would boost efficiency of business but were talking about a man that struggles to dress himself.

[BillyStubbsTears]

So, while Johnson was being pressed hard by blunt but intelligent questions in Donny this week, the media in their obsession for "balance" dug around for whatever they could find as an equivalent for Corbyn.

And they found this.
https://mobile.twitter.com/skynews/status/1194595607073185793


Turns out yet man wasn't any old constituent. He is (or WAS until they kicked him out yesterday) a church minister with a track record of pouring out racist and homohobuc insults on social media..

https://www.thenational.scot/news/18037052.reverend-richard-cameron-no-longer-scotstoun-primary-chaplain/

But hey. Johnson was given a hard time so the media had to show someone slagging Corbyn too...

[scawsby steve]

So, while Johnson was being pressed hard by blunt but intelligent questions in Donny this week, the media in their obsession for "balance" dug around for whatever they could find as an equivalent for Corbyn.

And they found this.
https://mobile.twitter.com/skynews/status/1194595607073185793


Turns out yet man wasn't any old constituent. He is (or WAS until they kicked him out yesterday) a church minister with a track record of pouring out racist and homohobuc insults on social media..

https://www.thenational.scot/news/18037052.reverend-richard-cameron-no-longer-scotstoun-primary-chaplain/

But hey. Johnson was given a hard time so the media had to show someone slagging Corbyn too...

It's what's known as balance BST. It's for people like me who aren't partisan and blinkered.

[BillyStubbsTears]

But it's not"balance" is it SS.

One is genuine people discussing things rationally. The other is a bigot shouting and rawping.

It's like climate change debates on the news. They always have 1 from each side. If it were balanced, they'd have 99 climate change researchers who DO think it's happening and 1 climate change denier. THAT would be balance because that is about the ratio of opinion among experts.

[scawsby steve]

But it's not"balance" is it SS.

One is genuine people discussing things rationally. The other is a bigot shouting and rawping.

It's like climate change debates on the news. They always have 1 from each side. If it were balanced, they'd have 99 climate change researchers who DO think it's happening and 1 climate change denier. THAT would be balance because that is about the ratio of opinion among experts.

Nigel Farage had a milk shake thrown all over him by a bigot. You didn't seem to mind that being reported.

[Glyn_Wigley]

So, while Johnson was being pressed hard by blunt but intelligent questions in Donny this week, the media in their obsession for "balance" dug around for whatever they could find as an equivalent for Corbyn.

And they found this.
https://mobile.twitter.com/skynews/status/1194595607073185793


Turns out yet man wasn't any old constituent. He is (or WAS until they kicked him out yesterday) a church minister with a track record of pouring out racist and homohobuc insults on social media..

https://www.thenational.scot/news/18037052.reverend-richard-cameron-no-longer-scotstoun-primary-chaplain/

But hey. Johnson was given a hard time so the media had to show someone slagging Corbyn too...

It's what's known as balance BST. It's for people like me who aren't partisan and blinkered.

[Filo]

A lying conniving nasty piece of work

https://youtu.be/d-Xrz2L9SUw

[Bentley Bullet]

I'm not sure Sidney will change his habit of a life-time and start to look out of the window when he can get all the truth he needs from the Guardian.

[BillyStubbsTears]

The irony of that comment is, I'm guessing, lost on you BB.

[Bentley Bullet]

I suspect you often are guessing, BST.

[SydneyRover]

One thing to think about should the Tory's win is how long will johnson remain as PM or in fact in parliament if he is found wanting by any of the enquires held back till after the result is known.

The Arcuri affair is slowly dragging him down and being a supporter of Putin and communism is not going to help him.

Although him being dumped shortly after the election would be seen by many on the tory side as a manna from heaven 

[SydneyRover]

"'Johnson’s Brexit would devastate business – the CBI must be hoping that he’s lying

Why would anyone in business vote for Boris Johnson? His pretend courting of the CBI and others is another of his one-night stands. Just now, what he needs are the votes of “Labour leavers”, not capitalist remainers. So at the CBI conference on Monday he fobbed off the latter with Johnsonian lies''

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/18/boris-johnson-brexit-devastate-business-cbi-lies

Simon Jenkins aye, what would he know?

Sir Simon David Jenkins FSA FRSL is a British author and a newspaper columnist and editor. He was editor of the Evening Standard from 1976 to 1978 and of The Times from 1990 to 1992. Jenkins chaired the National Trust from 2008 to 2014. He currently writes columns for both The Guardian and the Evening Standard. Wikipedia
Born: 10 June 1943 (age 76 years), Birmingham, United Kingdom
Award: Knight Bachelor
Spouse: Hannah Kaye (m. 2014), Gayle Hunnicutt (m. 1978–2009)
Children: Edward Jenkins
Education: Mill Hill School, University of Oxford, St John's College, Oxford

[BillyStubbsTears]

That's Simon Jenkins who, although he voted Remain in 2016, was very much a Brexit supporter immediately after the vote when no bugger knew what it meant.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/06/brexit-britain-property-bubble

https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/simon-jenkins-brexit-wouldn-t-harm-london-and-could-help-reform-the-eu-a3187276.html

He's changed his mind as the evidence has come rolling in. It's bizarre to see just how many folk have hardened THEIR minds as the evidence has come in.

[SydneyRover]

Hindsight should be a compulsory university course 

"The EU has morphed into a protectionist, lobby-dominated cartel. The cost to London housing of senseless EU building regulation, says my builder, is in the order of 20 per cent — plus VAT. EU labour laws are a conspiracy for joblessness. The safety of our buses, the quality of our air and the pollution of our rivers should be our business, as electors not passive subjects of a distant power''

Added

Excerpt from bst link
 

[BillyStubbsTears]

FFW three years and move away from intellectual w**k over hypothetical "powers" and onto the practical effects of how many jobs are going to be lost and how much poorer we are going to be.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Here's a point. I hadn't thought of this.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Dorianlynskey/status/1197273636484341760

[BillyStubbsTears]

I thought the idea was that Johnson would come across better to the public than Corbyn.

So why is he chickening out of a debate on C4?

https://mobile.twitter.com/louisa_compton/status/1197563760988299266