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River Don

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #1140 on March 27, 2020, 11:21:46 AM by River Don »
Boris Johnson tests positive for COVID-19

With any luck Donald Trump will get a right good dose of it.

Copps is Magic

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« Reply #1141 on March 27, 2020, 11:23:48 AM by Copps is Magic »
Who is 2nd in command in the UK these days? Under Blair you always knew Prescott was there to swing a few punches if needed.

Ldr

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #1142 on March 27, 2020, 11:24:05 AM by Ldr »
Raab

Filo

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« Reply #1143 on March 27, 2020, 11:24:23 AM by Filo »
Who is 2nd in command in the UK these days? Under Blair you always knew Prescott was there to swing a few punches if needed.

Dominic Raab

Copps is Magic

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« Reply #1144 on March 27, 2020, 11:25:09 AM by Copps is Magic »
Raab

And now the coronacrisis really hits home.

IDM

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« Reply #1145 on March 27, 2020, 11:28:39 AM by IDM »
As much as I dislike Boris Johnsonís politics and what he has done in recent months I wish him no ill whatsoever.

BBC says he has mild symptoms, so maybe he can carry out PM duties whilst self isolating..

River Don

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« Reply #1146 on March 27, 2020, 11:35:28 AM by River Don »
As much as I dislike Boris Johnsonís politics and what he has done in recent months I wish him no ill whatsoever.

BBC says he has mild symptoms, so maybe he can carry out PM duties whilst self isolating..

It always starts out mild, it depends how it develops. It also seems to depend upon how much exposure you have to it, doctors and health workers seem to be at greater risk of developing severe symptoms.

How old is Johnson?

ian1980

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« Reply #1147 on March 27, 2020, 11:57:14 AM by ian1980 »
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IDM

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« Reply #1148 on March 27, 2020, 12:08:41 PM by IDM »
Isnít his partner pregnant too.?

River Don

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« Reply #1149 on March 27, 2020, 12:17:56 PM by River Don »
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Just on the edge of being in a more vulnerable group. Chances are he will get over it quickly though.

Nudga

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« Reply #1150 on March 27, 2020, 12:18:06 PM by Nudga »
Which one?

River Don

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« Reply #1151 on March 27, 2020, 12:37:59 PM by River Don »
A bit of better news.

Imperial College London's Neil Ferguson - who originally estimated 500,000 deaths in the UK due to Coronavirus, now says that the virus will peak in just two or three weeks, and that UK deaths from the disease are now unlikely to exceed 20,000, according to NewScientist.

 And - over 1/2 of those it will kill would have died by the end of the year anyway because they were so old and sick.


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« Reply #1152 on March 27, 2020, 01:18:52 PM by big fat yorkshire pudding »
A bit of better news.

Imperial College London's Neil Ferguson - who originally estimated 500,000 deaths in the UK due to Coronavirus, now says that the virus will peak in just two or three weeks, and that UK deaths from the disease are now unlikely to exceed 20,000, according to NewScientist.

 And - over 1/2 of those it will kill would have died by the end of the year anyway because they were so old and sick.



That's alright then.....

It's all an estimate though isn't it. Realistically we don't as yet have a massive widespread transmission outside of some of the major cities, if we get to a point we have hundreds/thousands in places like Doncaster with it then we'll know how bad it really is.  Every person will react differently.

River Don

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« Reply #1153 on March 27, 2020, 01:37:47 PM by River Don »
It is better news than ten days ago

It is an estimate but as time goes by, data and knowledge increase and the estimates become more accurate. Strangely enough they think the virus has been spreading More quickly than they realised, meaning more people have already had it and recovered from it, meaning proportionately there are fewer critical cases.

ian1980

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« Reply #1154 on March 27, 2020, 01:52:07 PM by ian1980 »
I suspect quite a lot of people will have had it and brushed it off as feeling under the weather or just thought they had picked up a cold or flu

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« Reply #1155 on March 27, 2020, 01:55:38 PM by silent majority »
An interesting development here.

Not only can the app give current information but has the ability to give historical information.

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/uk-coronavirus-spread-app-phone-data


GazLaz

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« Reply #1156 on March 27, 2020, 02:18:48 PM by GazLaz »
181 deaths today.

Filo

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« Reply #1157 on March 27, 2020, 02:25:43 PM by Filo »
181 deaths today.

Surely a stricter lockdown needs to be enforced

IDM

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« Reply #1158 on March 27, 2020, 02:27:20 PM by IDM »
Wonít the deaths this week be from virus spread before the stricter lockdown came into force.?

I would think there would be a lag of two weeks at least before we see the real effects.?

big fat yorkshire pudding

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« Reply #1159 on March 27, 2020, 02:29:27 PM by big fat yorkshire pudding »
Wonít the deaths this week be from virus spread before the stricter lockdown came into force.?

I would think there would be a lag of two weeks at least before we see the real effects.?

Exactly that given how it progresses.  Certainly continuing to grow with a big increase in deaths there.

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« Reply #1160 on March 27, 2020, 02:38:59 PM by BillyStubbsTears »
Big disappointment, that figure. That's around the number of deaths per day that Italy, France and Spain had when they went through 6-700 total deaths. If the increase of the past few days keeps up,we are leaving the China trend and moving back towards the Western Europe trend.

Copps is Magic

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« Reply #1161 on March 27, 2020, 02:42:21 PM by Copps is Magic »
The important thing is the trend. We'll have bad days and good days (less bad days).

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« Reply #1162 on March 27, 2020, 03:11:12 PM by BillyStubbsTears »
Absolutely correct about the ups and downs CiM, but it's the trend that is worrying me.

Middle of last week, our doubling time was 2 days. By the start of this week, we'd got that up to about 4 days. Last few days, it's drifted back towards 2 days.

That happened in France a week or so earlier. They looked like they'd bent the curve earlier than Italy. Now they are right back on the Italy trend. The worry is that we seem to be heading in the same direction since early this week.

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« Reply #1163 on March 27, 2020, 03:21:26 PM by Filo »
Absolutely correct about the ups and downs CiM, but it's the trend that is worrying me.

Middle of last week, our doubling time was 2 days. By the start of this week, we'd got that up to about 4 days. Last few days, it's drifted back towards 2 days.

That happened in France a week or so earlier. They looked like they'd bent the curve earlier than Italy. Now they are right back on the Italy trend. The worry is that we seem to be heading in the same direction since early this week.

And we have all those out last Sunday having a nice old jolly to filter into the figures yet

IDM

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« Reply #1164 on March 27, 2020, 03:25:07 PM by IDM »
Absolutely correct about the ups and downs CiM, but it's the trend that is worrying me.

Middle of last week, our doubling time was 2 days. By the start of this week, we'd got that up to about 4 days. Last few days, it's drifted back towards 2 days.

That happened in France a week or so earlier. They looked like they'd bent the curve earlier than Italy. Now they are right back on the Italy trend. The worry is that we seem to be heading in the same direction since early this week.

How does the trend look if you plot the results as a 3 point average.?

Forgive me if thatís the wrong statistics terminology.!

scawsby steve

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« Reply #1165 on March 27, 2020, 03:30:56 PM by scawsby steve »
As much as I dislike Boris Johnsonís politics and what he has done in recent months I wish him no ill whatsoever.

BBC says he has mild symptoms, so maybe he can carry out PM duties whilst self isolating..

It's no good talking like that on here IDM. Some posters will use any tragedy to score political brownie points, and have a deep, personal, pathological hatred towards certain individuals in politics.

Utterly despicable.

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« Reply #1166 on March 27, 2020, 04:05:42 PM by DonnyOsmond »
181 deaths today.

Surely a stricter lockdown needs to be enforced

It would take 2/3 week to take much affect from the lockdown but in a way I do agree as you still see too many people walking down the road.

scawsby steve

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« Reply #1167 on March 27, 2020, 04:12:41 PM by scawsby steve »
181 deaths today.

Surely a stricter lockdown needs to be enforced

It would take 2/3 week to take much affect from the lockdown but in a way I do agree as you still see too many people walking down the road.

People need to take excercise DO, as a failure to do so can can also impact on health. As long as they're on their own, it won't make any difference as the virus apparently isn't airborne.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #1168 on March 27, 2020, 04:14:27 PM by BillyStubbsTears »
Christ Almighty.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/489774-birx-cautions-against-inaccurate-models-predicting-signficant-coronavirus?amp#click=https://t.co/OtDl9QHEcS

This is the expert Trump has put in charge of the CV-19 response, utterly misrepresenting the Imperial College modelling.

They categorically did NOT say that t
their prediction of the number of deaths was somehow magically reduced from 500,000 to 20,000 because the modelling wasn't precise. The first figure is the "do nothing" baseline case. The second is the "hard lockdown for a long time" case.

This is appalling stuff to be saying to a country that is staring at a catastrophe.

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« Reply #1169 on March 27, 2020, 04:18:40 PM by Bristol Red Rover »
Meanwhile in Iceland, where testing is per capita the highest in the world, it appears 50% of people are totally asymptomatic. That's in the realm of what has been thought by anyone with a real grip on this, and backs up other testing results that have been more questionable.

https://www.zmescience.com/medicine/iceland-testing-covid-19-0523/