Trump and democracy

[Glyn_Wigley]

Exactly RR.

Cummings on Saturday night: "We are not going to waste our time addressing questions from campaigning newspapers".

Straight out of Trump's playbook.

That might be a face-saving way out of this for DC and Boris - DC 'resigns' to go off to the US and help Trump's campaign..

[Filo]

Exactly RR.

Cummings on Saturday night: "We are not going to waste our time addressing questions from campaigning newspapers".

Straight out of Trump's playbook.

That might be a face-saving way out of this for DC and Boris - DC 'resigns' to go off to the US and help Trump's campaign..

I’m not sure Trump needs any help f**king things up 😂😂😂😂

[Glyn_Wigley]

Exactly RR.

Cummings on Saturday night: "We are not going to waste our time addressing questions from campaigning newspapers".

Straight out of Trump's playbook.

That might be a face-saving way out of this for DC and Boris - DC 'resigns' to go off to the US and help Trump's campaign..

I’m not sure Trump needs any help f**king things up 😂😂😂😂

And Dominic is certainly not the sort of Yes-man Donald likes to hire!

[BillyStubbsTears]

Jesus wept, have you seen his latest line on Twitter?

"Transition to Greatness".

Like he's transubstantiating into the body of Christ.

150% proof batshit.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Jesus wept, have you seen his latest line on Twitter?

"Transition to Greatness".

Like he's transubstantiating into the body of Christ.

150% proof batshit.

Ah, but have you seen this..?

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52815552

[Donnywolf]

They soon forgot about pregnant chads - and a President elected with a huge mathmatical cloud hanging over him

Indeed Trump got less votes than Hillary Clinton but heigh ho - they too need a better Electoral system but nowt I / we can do about that.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Just like Bush got fewer votes than Gore.

I said a few days ago, the Republicans have won the most votes in only 1 of the last 7 Presidential elections. But they have won the Presidency 3 times.

That is a seriously f**ked up electoral system.

[IDM]

If I remember correctly, they are actually voting for “elector’s” or similar name, who then make their choice in each state for the presidential candidates.  The electors follow the popular vote in each state but I don’t know if that is mandatory..

I read about this last time around, quite complex and I can’t remember all the details.

[Ldr]

IDM you are correct, the electoral college is what ultimately decides the presidency. It is rare but not unknown for a member to not follow the popular vote. The number of college members per state is distributed on a population basis. Therefore the highest population states such as California have more electoral college votes

[BillyStubbsTears]

Ldr

The problem is that it has all the worst features of our winner-takes-all constituency system, but amplified massively because of the size of the "constituencies" (states).

So there is a huge tendency to focus policy on a handful of swing states.

In November, Biden wins if he wins:

Florida + any one of Pennsylvania, Ohio or Michigan, or just any two of Pennsylvania, Ohio and Michigan.

It's inevitable that they focus on those places.

[IDM]

“When the looting starts, the shooting starts”

Or..

“We understand your anger, but looting won’t be tolerated”

Which one do you guess Trump tweeted yesterday.?

[IDM]

Wrong thread Sydders.!!

[BillyStubbsTears]

This is what happens in banana republics.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-52849358/minneapolis-unrest-cnn-reporter-arrested-live-on-air

[Filo]

Trump threatening to turn the Military on their own people 😳😳😳

That kind of stuff ended well in Syria didn’t it?

[IDM]

6 months before an election..

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Trump threatening to turn the Military on their own people 😳😳😳

That kind of stuff ended well in Syria didn’t it?

His messaging his wrong absolutely.  But it will play well with his followers who see rioting and shops being looted and think something should be done.  Sadly a minority are using it as an excuse for anarchy.  Sad.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Did you hear what he said last night?

"I am taking action to protect the rights of law-abiding Americans, including (and here he slowed down and emphasised every word) your Second Amendment rights."

That was deliberately encouraging the white supremacists to take guns onto the streets under the guise of protecting themselves. There is no ambiguity in what he was doing.

The man would burn the f**king world to secure his re-election.

[Filo]

It were n’t that long ago he was encouraging this in Iran and telling Iran the World was watching, well, the world is still watching, I bet Putin is pissing himself as the West hits the self destruct button

[MachoMadness]

Every time gun control measures are proposed in the US, the right loses their shit. They say they need their guns to protect themselves in case of the government turning on their citizens. Now we have the government trying to incite civil war, and the police and army being used to target and murder citizens. And those "patriots" are nowhere to be seen. Wonder why?

[ravenrover]

i saw the report of his speech about sending the troops in to sort it out but what was the nonsense outside a church, was he holding up a bible? I couldn't hear what he was saying.

[BillyStubbsTears]

i saw the report of his speech about sending the troops in to sort it out but what was the nonsense outside a church, was he holding up a bible? I couldn't hear what he was saying.

Trump holding a Bible!

And to think, there are folk so utterly stupid that they will be taken in by that.

[DonnyOsmond]

i saw the report of his speech about sending the troops in to sort it out but what was the nonsense outside a church, was he holding up a bible? I couldn't hear what he was saying.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Every time gun control measures are proposed in the US, the right loses their shit. They say they need their guns to protect themselves in case of the government turning on their citizens. Now we have the government trying to incite civil war, and the police and army being used to target and murder citizens. And those "patriots" are nowhere to be seen. Wonder why?

I remember Trump - after a mass shooting a few mass shootings ago - saying everybody should have a gun in case someone runs amok with a gun. That would work out well if the looters were all armed, and vigilantes were out in force shooting anyone who looks at them a bit funny.

[Colemans Left Hook]

i saw the report of his speech about sending the troops in to sort it out but what was the nonsense outside a church, was he holding up a bible? I couldn't hear what he was saying.

the only reason he is holding a bible is because he can see a "profit in it " 

Trumps Bank Account <= $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[KeithMyath]

The only reason he went for the photo op was so he could tear gas the peaceful protesters who he has now labeled as Anti Facist terrorists.

[ravenrover]

 Aaah just seen a tweet from Trump jnr claiming his dad is a brave man to walk down the street outside the White House to this little church not the actions of bunker man he claims. It appears that the church was being used by local clergy as an emergency eye cleaning station after protesters had been tear gassed, it then appears that the riot police went in and cleared everybody away including the clergy, by force so that Trump could be escorted surrounded by security etc to stand for a photo opportunity. The man has no morals at all

[idler]

Aaah just seen a tweet from Trump jnr claiming his dad is a brave man to walk down the street outside the White House to this little church not the actions of bunker man he claims. It appears that the church was being used by local clergy as an emergency eye cleaning station after protesters had been tear gassed, it then appears that the riot police went in and cleared everybody away including the clergy, by force so that Trump could be escorted surrounded by security etc to stand for a photo opportunity. The man has no morals at all

I'm sure that he has as many morals as brain cells.

[ravenrover]

And I think we know where he keeps what few brain cells he has!
Did I read from a valid source? that there have been numerous payoffs to under age children used for sexual gratification of The Donald?

[scawsby steve]

And I think we know where he keeps what few brain cells he has!
Did I read from a valid source? that there have been numerous payoffs to under age children used for sexual gratification of The Donald?

Sorry Raven mate, there's no evidence whatsoever of that happening.

Between Trump and Biden, I know which one I'd prefer being stood next to my granddaughters, and it wouldn't be pervy old Joe.

[Copps is Magic]

Steve, really?

You'd prefer Trump stood next to your granddaughters.

Is this the same guy who said of Jeffrey Epstein;

"I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side"