Trump and democracy

[i_ateallthepies]

I listened to US expert earlier explaining that the Supreme Court would not rule to overturn the result, that would be out of the question (and Trump knows that) but what they will do is rule politically with a verdict that gives Trump cover against the legal difficulties he inevitably faces after the presidency.
He didn't elaborate on how that would be but might be a more logical explanation of the path that Trump is taking.

[Ldr]

Thing is, there's a huge community in the US who only get their news from Fox and self-supporting online groups. I do think they genuinely believe that the only way Trump can lose is by the Democrats stealing the election. They simply weren't prepared for the possibility of him losing fairly. And they genuinely believe that they have a duty to protect democracy. It's very scary.

Why does this make me think of the eu referendum 🤔

[Donnywolf]

Just watching clashes outside Philadelpihia Count station with all the people Trump mobilised with "they are stealing the Election from you" and the group of people who are desperate for democracy to prevail by supporting the people inside who have promised " to count every legal vote" to respect everyones right to vote - and for that vote to be counted

How bizarre that a nation that sends observers to far flung countries to help them and oversee their Elections to provide a fair result had degenerated into such a sh*t heap of stupidity

[BillyStubbsTears]

Thing is, there's a huge community in the US who only get their news from Fox and self-supporting online groups. I do think they genuinely believe that the only way Trump can lose is by the Democrats stealing the election. They simply weren't prepared for the possibility of him losing fairly. And they genuinely believe that they have a duty to protect democracy. It's very scary.

Why does this make me think of the eu referendum 🤔

Dunno Ldr. I don't think anyone suggests that votes were not counted correctly in the EU Referendum, due to a plot to steal the result.

[selby]

  Wasn't there questions asked about some votes in a bye election in Peterborough?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Weren't there?

yes there were questions asked. By Farage because he lost. It turned out there was no fraud when the election was investigated.

Birds of a feather eh Trump and Farage? Lose elections and then make shit up about fraud, which, in your case, seems to get filed away in the memory.

[Ldr]

Thing is, there's a huge community in the US who only get their news from Fox and self-supporting online groups. I do think they genuinely believe that the only way Trump can lose is by the Democrats stealing the election. They simply weren't prepared for the possibility of him losing fairly. And they genuinely believe that they have a duty to protect democracy. It's very scary.

Why does this make me think of the eu referendum 🤔

Dunno Ldr. I don't think anyone suggests that votes were not counted correctly in the EU Referendum, due to a plot to steal the result.

Am sure several on here wouldnt accept that Leave could win without foul play was the point i was making

[IDM]

I don?t think anyone ever claimed foul play in that vote itself..

Plenty of bullshit in the campaign, and lies, and the ?350 million big red bus etc..

But no one questioned the validity of the vote.  Methinks you?re stirring up old differences, for why I have no idea.

[SydneyRover]

Has anyone got their hands on one the trump bog brushes, they could be a collector's item in a few years?

[Campsall rover]

Russia & China think this is hilarious. USA making Democracy look farcical.

Just playing into their hands. Big time.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Steve Bannon today.

https://mobile.twitter.com/FrankFigliuzzi1/status/1324485819042705408

He's there. On tape. Talking about civil war and beheading the head of the FBI and America's chief COVID policy medic.

Just...speechless.

[SydneyRover]

He can't be charged with incitement to commit a crime in the US?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Here are some of Bannon's mates by the way. Nice bunch.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BrexitBin/status/1324705316764864513

[EasyforDennis]

Interesting to see all the news channels cutting him off as he is still is giving out false information and lies.

[i_ateallthepies]

Here are some of Bannon's mates by the way. Nice bunch.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BrexitBin/status/1324705316764864513

First time I've seen that Senator McCain concession speech.  Wow! You could see in his face how sincerely he meant every word.  2008, my God, how rapidly a nation can toss itself into the gutter.

[MachoMadness]

Here are some of Bannon's mates by the way. Nice bunch.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BrexitBin/status/1324705316764864513

First time I've seen that Senator McCain concession speech.  Wow! You could see in his face how sincerely he meant every word.  2008, my God, how rapidly a nation can toss itself into the gutter.

You can see the beginnings of it though. The crowd starts off booing his mention of Obama. Now, McCain had enough decency to shut it down straight away. All it took was a bloke who wasn't willing to shut those boos down, but to agitate them more.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Interesting that it never used to happen before America elected a black President. It's like that lit a touch paper.

After Trump's unhinged press conference last night, I watched a discussion on CNN about it. One contributor called it right. he said, look at the places that Trump is complaining about vote fraud. Detroit, Philadelphia, Atlanta. All cities where blacks are the biggest demographic group. He said it was so horrifyingly obvious what Trump was doing - playing to the racism of the rural and suburban whites - telling them that it is the black cities that have stolen their election.

That is a terrifying thing for a President of the USA to be doing.

[IDM]

Can he be prosecuted for slander against a whole section of the population.?

[MachoMadness]

Interesting that it never used to happen before America elected a black President. It's like that lit a touch paper.

After Trump's unhinged press conference last night, I watched a discussion on CNN about it. One contributor called it right. he said, look at the places that Trump is complaining about vote fraud. Detroit, Philadelphia, Atlanta. All cities where blacks are the biggest demographic group. He said it was so horrifyingly obvious what Trump was doing - playing to the racism of the rural and suburban whites - telling them that it is the black cities that have stolen their election.

That is a terrifying thing for a President of the USA to be doing.

And, of course, Trump's whole political career started as a result of pushing the racist Birther conspiracy theory. I can't remember if he started that before or after Obama made fun of him at the White House correspondents dinner. But Trump has had issues with black people for decades regardless.

[Filo]

Interesting that it never used to happen before America elected a black President. It's like that lit a touch paper.

After Trump's unhinged press conference last night, I watched a discussion on CNN about it. One contributor called it right. he said, look at the places that Trump is complaining about vote fraud. Detroit, Philadelphia, Atlanta. All cities where blacks are the biggest demographic group. He said it was so horrifyingly obvious what Trump was doing - playing to the racism of the rural and suburban whites - telling them that it is the black cities that have stolen their election.

That is a terrifying thing for a President of the USA to be doing.

And, of course, Trump's whole political career started as a result of pushing the racist Birther conspiracy theory. I can't remember if he started that before or after Obama made fun of him at the White House correspondents dinner. But Trump has had issues with black people for decades regardless.

He?s gonna cry big time if he gets a black prison guard

[IDM]

We are good friends socially with a family originating in Colorado.  They are Republican supporting generally but feel embarrassed by the current pantomime and by Trump.

I don?t know enough about homeland USA issues to say whether or not a Republican or Democrat government is better for them, but there most be millions of like minded genuine Republican supporters who are tearing their hair out at the antics of the current presidential incumbent.

[ravenrover]

Interesting that it never used to happen before America elected a black President. It's like that lit a touch paper.

After Trump's unhinged press conference last night, I watched a discussion on CNN about it. One contributor called it right. he said, look at the places that Trump is complaining about vote fraud. Detroit, Philadelphia, Atlanta. All cities where blacks are the biggest demographic group. He said it was so horrifyingly obvious what Trump was doing - playing to the racism of the rural and suburban whites - telling them that it is the black cities that have stolen their election.

That is a terrifying thing for a President of the USA to be doing.

And, of course, Trump's whole political career started as a result of pushing the racist Birther conspiracy theory. I can't remember if he started that before or after Obama made fun of him at the White House correspondents dinner. But Trump has had issues with black people for decades regardless.

He?s gonna cry big time if he gets a black prison guard

Especially of he drops his soap

[Bentley Bullet]

That's lifebuoy.

[BigH]

Interesting that it never used to happen before America elected a black President. It's like that lit a touch paper.

After Trump's unhinged press conference last night, I watched a discussion on CNN about it. One contributor called it right. he said, look at the places that Trump is complaining about vote fraud. Detroit, Philadelphia, Atlanta. All cities where blacks are the biggest demographic group. He said it was so horrifyingly obvious what Trump was doing - playing to the racism of the rural and suburban whites - telling them that it is the black cities that have stolen their election.

That is a terrifying thing for a President of the USA to be doing.

And, of course, Trump's whole political career started as a result of pushing the racist Birther conspiracy theory. I can't remember if he started that before or after Obama made fun of him at the White House correspondents dinner. But Trump has had issues with black people for decades regardless.

Macho, it was before that night at the correspondents' dinner. Obama clearly taunted Trump that night but he had it coming having peddled the birther nonsense and the claim that Obama wasn't eligible to be US President as a result.

Trump started it.

[Campsall rover]

That's lifebuoy.

BB your getting worse. Your jokes are far too slippery for me. 

[idler]

That's lifebuoy.

BB your getting worse. Your jokes are far too slippery for me. 

Too much soft soaping and you'll get barred.😳

[Bentley Bullet]

That's lifebuoy.

BB your getting worse. Your jokes are far too slippery for me. 

Too much soft soaping and you'll get barred.😳

it certainly Lux that way.

[idler]

Or as Popeye said. "Get that in your palm Olive".🤔

[Bentley Bullet]

Or as Popeye said. "Get that in your palm Olive".🤔

I've heard they do allow prisoners to come in Pears these days.

[idler]

That left me foaming BB.😳