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BillyStubbsTears

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Another PM going?
« on March 13, 2024, 10:42:47 am by BillyStubbsTears »
All sorts of rumblings going on in the Tory party. MPs briefing against Sunak. Rumours of no confidence letters. Sunak called to a private meeting with the head of the 1922 Committee.

As a senior Tory says today, Sunak just doesn't get politics. Time after time he misjudges issues, takes the wrong stance initially and eventually gets forced into a different position.

Yesterday's mess over Hester is a perfect example. It was obvious from the start that the line should have been "Yes of course this was racist and we find it absolutely disgusting." But he had to be forced and dragged into that position after trying, like he does every time, to minimise the issue.

The mood in the Tory party seems to be desperate. I wouldn't rule out them getting rid of him before the Election.



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Bristol Red Rover

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Re: Another PM going?
« Reply #1 on March 13, 2024, 11:07:43 am by Bristol Red Rover »
"democracy".

Colemans Left Hook

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Re: Another PM going?
« Reply #2 on March 13, 2024, 11:15:35 am by Colemans Left Hook »
"democracy".

$hite  I just realised our "Gatekeeper of the Off Topic " has not been "democratically elected "- I will set up a poll

wilts rover

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Re: Another PM going?
« Reply #3 on March 13, 2024, 01:33:44 pm by wilts rover »
Just been on the radio that his 'spokesperson' has not ruled out a May election. Make of that what you will.

Maybe Coleman's can set up a poll as he/she likes them so much.

Bristol Red Rover

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Re: Another PM going?
« Reply #4 on March 13, 2024, 01:47:08 pm by Bristol Red Rover »
May election? I guess that's a possibility if it's not a Sunak election.

Seriously tho, the timing is important, I'd have thought that's what the meeting would be about. I can only see things getting worse for Sunak both as PM and re support, knives out, in his own party. And the issue of Reform getting stronger - an existential threat to the Tories. The only thing counter to that would be Labour starting to crumble too in some way - a risky bet for the Tories at this point. The odds are on an early election.

Mike_F

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Re: Another PM going?
« Reply #5 on March 13, 2024, 02:03:57 pm by Mike_F »
My money is on 2nd May.

Jonathan

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Re: Another PM going?
« Reply #6 on March 13, 2024, 03:00:02 pm by Jonathan »
My money is on 2nd May.

Term as Prime Minister or the date?

Ldr

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Re: Another PM going?
« Reply #7 on March 13, 2024, 03:05:09 pm by Ldr »
My money is on 2nd May.

Hope not, I’d like 2 days running the polling station not just 1

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Re: Another PM going?
« Reply #8 on March 13, 2024, 03:13:47 pm by Pancho Regan »
My money is on 2nd May.

That's a bold prediction Mike!
I hope you're right; the sooner the better for me.
An early date will reduce the amount of electioneering crap we have to endure.


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Re: Another PM going?
« Reply #9 on March 14, 2024, 09:40:14 am by Mike_F »
My money is on 2nd May.

Term as Prime Minister or the date?

Date of GE. Almost a snap election so Rishi can hang on to be voted out by the public rather than toppled by his own party.

Jonathan

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« Reply #10 on March 14, 2024, 09:54:19 am by Jonathan »
My money is on 2nd May.

Term as Prime Minister or the date?

Date of GE. Almost a snap election so Rishi can hang on to be voted out by the public rather than toppled by his own party.

Thank goodness. May 2nd gave me worrying thoughts of a last dance for the retiring Theresa. That said, those that have followed her have certainly put her own flaws into context. Love her or loathe her for her politics, she has integrity and that’s been sorely missing since.

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Re: Another PM going?
« Reply #11 on March 14, 2024, 10:25:54 am by Bentley Bullet »
Yep, we need someone with integrity like Keir Starmer running the country.

Herbert Anchovy

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Re: Another PM going?
« Reply #12 on March 14, 2024, 10:26:11 am by Herbert Anchovy »
My money is on 2nd May.

Term as Prime Minister or the date?

Date of GE. Almost a snap election so Rishi can hang on to be voted out by the public rather than toppled by his own party.

Thank goodness. May 2nd gave me worrying thoughts of a last dance for the retiring Theresa. That said, those that have followed her have certainly put her own flaws into context. Love her or loathe her for her politics, she has integrity and that’s been sorely missing since.

Spot on. All I ask from our leaders is integrity and competence. Even if I disagree with them (which I probably will if they're Tory) at least be up to the job.

Bentley Bullet

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Re: Another PM going?
« Reply #13 on March 14, 2024, 10:27:23 am by Bentley Bullet »
Yep, we need someone with integrity like Keir Starmer running the country.

Herbert Anchovy

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Re: Another PM going?
« Reply #14 on March 14, 2024, 10:28:35 am by Herbert Anchovy »
I heard a great piece on the radio yesterday about Sunak asking why he's hanging on? It's clear that the only person who wants him to remain as PM is himself. His party don't seem to want him and the country certainly doesn't. So, why is he still here? It strikes me a little of the end of the Major years.

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Re: Another PM going?
« Reply #15 on March 14, 2024, 10:36:54 am by Bentley Bullet »
Shouldn't you be hailing your new leader and our bright new future instead of concentrating on the outgoing one?

Herbert Anchovy

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« Reply #16 on March 14, 2024, 10:40:05 am by Herbert Anchovy »
Shouldn't you be hailing your new leader and our bright new future instead of concentrating on the outgoing one?

What makes you say that BB?

big fat yorkshire pudding

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Re: Another PM going?
« Reply #17 on March 14, 2024, 10:43:39 am by big fat yorkshire pudding »
I have no real issue with Sunak, I think he's an alright guy.  But he isn't a strong leader.  Boris Johnson had many many faults but he got on with what he wanted and could take people with him.  Boris will be back, undoubtedly.

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Re: Another PM going?
« Reply #18 on March 14, 2024, 10:58:50 am by ravenrover »
Yep, we need someone with integrity like Keir Starmer running the country.
At last BB has seen the light :-]]

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Re: Another PM going?
« Reply #19 on March 14, 2024, 01:47:35 pm by Bristol Red Rover »
Yep, we need someone with integrity like Keir Starmer running the country.
Don't care about Starmer. Are you now giving a description of Sunak integrity?

ncRover

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Re: Another PM going?
« Reply #20 on March 14, 2024, 01:59:03 pm by ncRover »
My bet would be on Cameron or Kemi

ravenrover

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Re: Another PM going?
« Reply #21 on March 14, 2024, 03:12:44 pm by ravenrover »
So Cameron has to win a seat at the GE?

Ldr

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Re: Another PM going?
« Reply #22 on March 14, 2024, 03:20:52 pm by Ldr »
So Cameron has to win a seat at the GE?

Not necessarily I think it is still permissible (though unlikely) for a pm to sit in the lords RR, BST think that’s correct mate?

Bentley Bullet

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Re: Another PM going?
« Reply #23 on March 14, 2024, 04:45:45 pm by Bentley Bullet »
Yep, we need someone with integrity like Keir Starmer running the country.
Don't care about Starmer. Are you now giving a description of Sunak integrity?
Having integrity includes having strong moral principles. I'm not sure what Starmers principles are, or if he even has any.

Principles apart, Starmer replacing Sunak will be like Danny Schofield replacing Gary McSheffrey.

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Another PM going?
« Reply #24 on March 14, 2024, 05:29:26 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
So Cameron has to win a seat at the GE?

Not necessarily I think it is still permissible (though unlikely) for a pm to sit in the lords RR, BST think that’s correct mate?
Technically possible, but practically unimaginable in the modern world.

I think the last PM to sit in the Lords was the Marquis of Salisbury in the 1890s-1900s.

Lord Home gave up his peerage and won a hastily contrived by-election to take over as PM from Macmillan in 1963.

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Re: Another PM going?
« Reply #26 on March 14, 2024, 05:35:59 pm by Colemans Left Hook »
Yep, we need someone with integrity like Keir Starmer running the country.

Yes who knows thirteenth century laws

https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=290400.0

Jonathan

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Re: Another PM going?
« Reply #27 on March 14, 2024, 05:54:57 pm by Jonathan »
Yep, we need someone with integrity like Keir Starmer running the country.

Yes who knows thirteenth century laws

https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=290400.0

Are you okay? You seem to have found less than half of a complete non-story and all of a sudden you’re going on a promotional tour with it.

Iberian Red

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Re: Another PM going?
« Reply #28 on March 14, 2024, 06:03:00 pm by Iberian Red »
I hope to fcuk he doesn't promote the extended 12" remix!

Colemans Left Hook

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Re: Another PM going?
« Reply #29 on March 14, 2024, 06:13:35 pm by Colemans Left Hook »
You could say Starmer "threw the book at them" .

But Mi Lord surely the thirteenth century book that contained the law would have been damaged ? me thinkx as it would be so delicate

I follows that Starmer could be charged with damaging public property !!

 

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