Season tickets

[bobjimwilly]

DearneValleyRover wrote:

My only complaint is the short time frame for early bird buys, in past seasons we have had until the end of May which if still kept would have led to less complaints.

Just read your post DVR, sorry I repeated it  

[pkt_drfc]

bobjimwilly wrote:

I just don't think its fair we only get 1 month to save up for the \"early bird\" price?
I get paid on the 15th, so I have only 1 pay cheque to pay for the new ticket? Otherwise I have to suffer £120 price increase on last year's Cat C ticket price? And before the bright sparks say it, its not always easy for some folk to get an interest free credit card, or dip into savings they don't have.

I think the first thing the SMC/Rovers can do is extend the early bird offer, give at least a couple of pay days notice for us to get the cheaper ticket  

Thats what i would be happy with Rob if they give you a couple of month to get the early bird offer

[SkellowRover]

bobjimwilly wrote:

I just don't think its fair we only get 1 month to save up for the \"early bird\" price?
I get paid on the 15th, so I have only 1 pay cheque to pay for the new ticket? Otherwise I have to suffer £120 price increase on last year's Cat C ticket price? And before the bright sparks say it, its not always easy for some folk to get an interest free credit card, or dip into savings they don't have.

I think the first thing the SMC/Rovers can do is extend the early bird offer, give at least a couple of pay days notice for us to get the cheaper ticket  

The club should have given current st holders until the end of May to get their st's at the cheaper prices, that way at least people get 3 months to try and get their monry together. Giving us a month is a joke and sorry JR you say you want bums on seats but it will make the club far worse off because people aren't going to renew.

[mushRTID]

I dont really have a problem with the early bird price. I am sure it will still be reasonable compared to the other clubs in our league.

What I do have a problem with is been given 1 months notice to get £380 together! What a f**king piss take that is. Agree with Skellow Rover, this early bird offer should be extended immediatly.

I really think this could f**k us up, I can see season ticket holders down to 4k and assuming match day prices will be going up too there is going to be a lot of empty seats, every game.

We should have been going the other way, cheaper season tickets maybe £250ish? We should have been trying to fill the bloody place.

4k season tickets @ £380 = £1520000
8k season tickets @ £250 = £2000000

I know its not that simple but surely people in the ground is better than empty seats.

We better enjoy Billy Sharp while we can, because I doubt he will be coming in the summer!

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

I'm kind of with Norfolk, for CATB (most of the stadium to be fair), there's a £30 increase.  Let's not forget season tickets did increase last season, by the amount the VAT went down.  Now the VAT is added back on and another increase (inflation is what 3.5% at the moment and will boom).

Crowds are down around 1500 with no increase in price, that has to be recouped somehow, not to mention we can't fund the club through player sales this time.  The club has to raise more money, I'm happy to pay an extra 30 quid (in my case it's actually an extra £130) but I budgeted for that and saved.  I wasn't quite expecting it this early though and that's my main gripe, I'm still quite a bit short as I was expecting another 3 months before it needed paying.  That early bird farce needs sorting.

Furthermore, Bradford at 150-250 a ticket expect to see a decrease of 2000 tickets this time round and Northampton charged £380 for league 2 football ths season.  At Rotherham it was  £342 for an adult.  Are we really that poor value?  I don't think we are.

[Rovin Reporter]

washyrover wrote:

Week on week the crowds are about the same apart from big games,their are not many turn up on the day fans so we need to increase season ticket holders.The plan could be to reduce cat b to cat c as how do you get new season ticket holders when all the cheaper tickets have gone and interest free for season tickets.

It would better for J/R to start thinking about owning our own stadium,with 20k+ capacity  there would be more scope  to offer reduced priced tickets , but with only 15k it is impossible to make ends meet , if the tickets go up then it's a some you win some you loose situation so , either way J/R and Co will have to dip there hands into there pockets for the umpteenth time for the love of the club. Billy will be here next year if the sums add up and we come to terms with the facts that Rovers need our money, I can not see myself buying before the season starts, so i will just have to start saving now , For as much i want us to be successful, i think there is not enough support for the hard up amongst us, why not have quarterly season ticket at  a  larger starting price  Cat B £120 per quarter (£480)limited number or £380 for those who can afford pay up front .

[MrFrost]

big fat yorkshire pudding wrote:

I'm kind of with Norfolk, for CATB (most of the stadium to be fair), there's a £30 increase.  Let's not forget season tickets did increase last season, by the amount the VAT went down.  Now the VAT is added back on and another increase (inflation is what 3.5% at the moment and will boom).

Crowds are down around 1500 with no increase in price, that has to be recouped somehow, not to mention we can't fund the club through player sales this time.  The club has to raise more money, I'm happy to pay an extra 30 quid (in my case it's actually an extra £130) but I budgeted for that and saved.  I wasn't quite expecting it this early though and that's my main gripe, I'm still quite a bit short as I was expecting another 3 months before it needed paying.  That early bird farce needs sorting.

Furthermore, Bradford at 150-250 a ticket expect to see a decrease of 2000 tickets this time round and Northampton charged £380 for league 2 football ths season.  At Rotherham it was  £342 for an adult.  Are we really that poor value?  I don't think we are.

So its fair for current Cat C season ticket holders to pay over a 50% increase on their season ticket if they cant get the money together in the next 30 days?

I run a business and if I treated existing customers this way I would soon find myself at the job centre.

People will vote with their feet. As has been done this season. Our crowds will be around what Scunthorpe and Blackpoll average for next season, which will have a continuous knock on effect for the year after.

[Snods Shinpad 2]

TheRev wrote:

I won't be renewing either mine or my lads (he's 19) season tickets.

Won't it be actually cheaper for you and your lads tickets now, seeing as the 17-20 band didn't exist last year?

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Snods Shinpad wrote:

TheRev wrote:

I won't be renewing either mine or my lads (he's 19) season tickets.

Won't it be actually cheaper for you and your lads tickets now, seeing as the 17-20 band didn't exist last year?

Never let the facts get in the way of a good Donny moan.  It's the trend with our fans to be negative and miserable and in some respects I wish we hadn't got promoted and had ambition, it was far more enjoyable watching us back in the Penney days.  Funny thing is, it's the old fans that seem to moan the most, not those who've been watching Rovers for only a year or two.

[MrFrost]

Does anyone think it is strange how the new prices haven't been made official on DROS yet and are at the bottom of the season ticket page on the Keepmoat website, after this years season ticket info?

Surely with the tickets on sale as from tomorrow and only a month to get them at early bird prices, it would have been plastered all over the Official Site.

Oh hold on, this is DROS we are talking about.

[Snods Shinpad 2]

SkellowRover wrote:

Snods Shinpad wrote:

12-16 early: Up 58%

What a fantastic way to encourage young suppporters to come along and watch us play............. NOT!!!

Not saying that is right or wrong, but another way of looking at it is that if you are 17-20 it is now at least 45% cheaper to watch Rovers.

[BobG]

A fact which is overlooked amazingly often Snod. I suspect that overlooking tells us an awful lot more about those doing it than benefit their contributions might offer us directly.

BobG

[BillyStubbsTears]

MrFrost wrote:

So its fair for current Cat C season ticket holders to pay over a 50% increase on their season ticket if they cant get the money together in the next 30 days?

I run a business and if I treated existing customers this way I would soon find myself at the job centre.

People will vote with their feet. As has been done this season. Our crowds will be around what Scunthorpe and Blackpoll average for next season, which will have a continuous knock on effect for the year after.

The sensible voice of reason Mr Frost.

Football eh? While the rest of us are tightening our belts and cutting costs, football blithely continues on ratcheting up both costs and prices. The entire industry is hermetically sealed from the real world that the rest of us inhabit.

This is an incredible decision by the club. At the end of a severe recession, they basically target the poorest of the club's supporters, saying \"Pay up in the next four weeks or else.\"

Has anyone at the club done a \"What If\" anaylsis here? As in what if 1500 or so current Cat C ticket holders decide to say \"b*llocks to this, putting food on the table and shoes on the bairns' feet is more important than subsidising Lewis Guy's next TT.\"

If hikes like this were needed, then the club could at least have been managing the expectations of the fans over the last few months, giving strong hints that people would have to dig deep to see us at this level next year, and suggesting that people start saving a little earlier than in previous seasons.

But no. That would require the club to have something resembling a media policy.

High-stakes game Donny. I assume that some big-name signings will be made in the summer to raise expectations and give folk a reason to shell out significantly more than this season. Because if this news is followed by contract extensions for Lewis Guy, Mark Wilson etc, and scuttling around the trialist market, I fear we may be seeing crowds drop off a cliff next season.

[Snods Shinpad 2]

Having had a bit of time to look at the prices, if you didn't buy an early bird ticket last year and you renew early this year, you actually have a price reduction if it is Cat A or B of 20 odd quid.. This is for adults and concessions tickets.

If you renew between 1st April & 31st May the price is basically frozen for Cat A and B.

After that date, the price rises only 20 quid.

Prices for 17-20 year old are substantially cheaper.

Basically its the Cat C tickets and U11, 12-16 tickets that are increasing.

All in all a mixed bag, with some discounts and some increases.

[en aitch]

For this current season I paid £420 for my Cat A seat .. the \"Early Bird\" price (if the post is true) is £440 for Cat A .... it is only fair to compare like for like. Don't add \"if\" into your calculations.

I was made redundant in December - I was trying to decide whether I could make the investment in 23 home games - I have made my decision.

I am not complaining. I expect the club to require funding. I don't believe that we should expect other people to finance our club. I do think the the Early Bird finishes ... err ... early.

Never mind - My wife never wanted me to go to football week in week out anyway.

[bobjimwilly]

Snods Shinpad wrote:

Basically its the Cat C tickets and U11, 12-16 tickets that are increasing.

All in all a mixed bag, with some discounts and some increases.

Thats why it's alot of us Cat C STH's who are complaining  

[BillyStubbsTears]

Snods Shinpad wrote:

Basically its the Cat C tickets and U11, 12-16 tickets that are increasing.
.

My point exactly. At a time when money is tighter than for the thick end of 20 years, the club has decided to target the the poorer fans and those with kids.

And after 2 and a half seasons when we have rarely come close to filling the new ground, the club's enlightened approach is to up prices for the overwhelming majority of season tickets by between 5 and 50%.

I'm assuming Ryan and the KM2 are martyrs who actively want to dig deeper into their own pockets, because this decision is almost designed to reduce our revenue next season.

[5minstogo]

Sheffield Wednesday first early bird deadline is 8th March!  Mind you their season tickets went on sale in November.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

5minstogo wrote:

Sheffield Wednesday first early bird deadline is 8th March!  Mind you their season tickets went on sale in November.

That's the second one isn't it?  The first one was before the new year.

[Lytham Rover]

5minstogo wrote:

Sheffield Wednesday first early bird deadline is 8th March!  Mind you their season tickets went on sale in November.

isnt that when their season ended?

[irishcontingent]

I tell thee this mi owd muckers.
I can easily afford the cost of season ticket.
Am i about to shell out the extra................am i fook.
Why not........simple.......the product simply is not worth it.
90 odd mins of 22 + men kicking a ball around, jeez i can watch that anywhere, doesnt have to be DRFC.
People on here ( majority it seems )dont have the money i have, they will vote with their feet. No good blaming anyone but DRFC directors, they meet, discuss agenda, pass resolutions.
Bad decision. The day it costs more to watch 90 mins of football than to get pissed is the day i say enough is enough. That day has arrived.

[Belle-Vue-Ghost]

Its at times like this when I think:

Thank god i'm an exile

[sham69]

irishcontingent wrote:

I tell thee this mi owd muckers.
I can easily afford the cost of season ticket.
Am i about to shell out the extra................am i fook.
Why not........simple.......the product simply is not worth it.
90 odd mins of 22 + men kicking a ball around, jeez i can watch that anywhere, doesnt have to be DRFC.
People on here ( majority it seems )dont have the money i have, they will vote with their feet. No good blaming anyone but DRFC directors, they meet, discuss agenda, pass resolutions.
Bad decision. The day it costs more to watch 90 mins of football than to get pissed is the day i say enough is enough. That day has arrived.

Comedy gold.

[The Mighty Brian Rowe]

If I can quote Dragons Den for a minute.. \"I'll let you know where I stand\"

As an existing CAT C st holder, I paid £280 last year. If I can scrape together (and I mean scrape) the £320 to renew by the end of March, I will stand the 12.5% increase and renew.

As soon as the deadline passes and I am required to fork out £400 notes, I will not rnenw, and will pick and choose my games next year.

As a season ticket holder for the last 25+ years it won't be an easy decision but to be given one month's notice by my Football Club to save up the money for a season ticket (with no notice or even a hint that this was about to happen) or else be 'fined' an extra £80 on top of the £40 increase.

The increase in prices I can understand, and can to a degree see the justification for. However the timescale is completely ridiculous, and as stated above, if I can't get the cash sorted by March I will no longer be a Season Ticket holder at Doncaster Rovers FC, and it seems very strange to say that after all these years.

I'm no businessman, but I always thought it was easier to hang onto your existing customers than it is to find a few thousand new ones. The way we have gone about attracting new fans the last few years, I seriously fear for the Clubs' future.

Chris Noble,
Pissed Off,
Epworth.

Rant over!

[colfromdonny]

I hope that the people who made this ridiculous decision to ''fine'' existing season ticket holders are going to make up the shortfall from their salaries. This is a perfect example of economics of the madhouse. As The Mighty Brian Rowe states plenty of fans will be picking and choosing and will have no problem getting tickets as the ground will never sell out.
(is this classed as a mini rant?)

[The Mighty Brian Rowe]

By your standards it was quite pleasant.

[Filo]

The Mighty Brian Rowe wrote:

As a season ticket holder for the last 25+ years it won't be an easy decision but to be given one month's notice by my Football Club to save up the money for a season ticket (with no notice or even a hint that this was about to happen) or else be 'fined' an extra £80 on top of the £40 increase.

 

I think thats the real bone of contention here, the price rise was coming, even a blind man could see that, we`ve had price freezes in the past so we really can`t grumble too much about that, especially when we are all wanting top quality signings, we can`t expect the board to dig deep indefinitely, BUT! 1 month to get together the money on the back of a recession beggars belief! Take my own circumstances for example, up to September last year I had a Job earning £13 an hour, I got made redundant and i`m now earning £5.85 hour, I`ve still got the same bills to pay and i`m on less than half of what I was earning but I`m expected to find the money for a season ticket in 4 1/2 weeks, it`s not possible! fortunately I`ve still got some redundo left, but the following season may well be a different matter

[wing commander]

Well we know the clubs so called representatives read this board as im sure JR will so at least they have been left in no doubt about the fans feelings.
  Last time this happened we got wind of how angry JR was about the fans reaction and we need to support him blah blah and no doubt he will have his say about this issue as well.
  However John its nothing to do with supporting you or the rovers, its to do with you taking the piss out of us.I dont want to know about your ridiculous free ticket idea.The bottom line is that in a year when everyones nett income has come down,Rovers have chosen to heavily penalise the tickets that the recession has hit the hardest,and then given them 30 days else they will penalise you again...
  I wouldnt expect this from the tax man and hes compulsory......

[jucyberry]

Belle-Vue-Ghost wrote:

Its at times like this when I think:

Thank god i'm an exile

I think there will be quite a few with the same thought tbh..

I am a horrid cynical creature, but with the timings, are you all supposed to bite the bullet and dig deeper than most pockets can go on the vague hope that a total miracle is going to happen in that we are going to get new players capable of taking us to the prem...Ergo the free season ticket promise..
It's a bloody big carrot that...

As someone else slaving on mimimum wage I feel for you Filo..I know For me if I was up there a season ticket would be an impossibility.

[bigal]

If you buy an early bird season ticket and we are relegated
wil you get your money back dont fancy league 1  anymore
not at them prices