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And another kick of the can, trying to shift the blame onto Corbyn, does she think the British public are stupid?
Quote from: Filo on April 02, 2019, 06:18:14 pmAnd another kick of the can, trying to shift the blame onto Corbyn, does she think the British public are stupid?I think this is all about trying to persuade the ERG to come on board with her deal by threatening them with a softer Brexit, eg a Customs Union.
How can you compromise when a pre condition is still her deal
NEW: Just how divided is May’s cabinet? Told there was a vote: 10 cabinet ministers wanted a long ext; 14 wanted a No Deal or a short ext; 2 sat on their hands 1/2
Coops. Word I've heard is that the Norway+ deal will win by 50 votes. If so, that's the least bad Brexit. Worse than staying in, because we get all the benefits of staying in and all the costs, but no say. But if that's what it takes to finish this madness without crippling us...Also, if it's true, I've some apologising to do to Albie because he was predicting this months ago and I said I couldn't see it happening.
Here's a good analogy.Imagine 100 people want to go out for a meal. They have a vote.Indian or Lasagne.they vote 52-48 for Indian.Then there's a massive argument about what Indian food to have. Some people say the Will of The People is to have a Phal. Others say a Korma would be a safer bet. Some others try to compromise with a Madras.In the end, they decide to put it to a vote. Phal or Korma.That would be bonkers wouldn't it? Maybe some of the people who voted for an Indian really wanted a Chicken Tikka Masala, and would prefer Lasagne to either Phal or Korma. So why not have Lasagne on the second vote?THAT is a pretty much exact analogy of the whole bleeding process we've been through over the past 3 years.
BS.Don't flatter yourself that you've got the first idea what I think or want. You haven't got the first idea. Discuss this like a grown up or toddle off and leave it to grown ups to discuss.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 02, 2019, 07:43:40 pmBS.Don't flatter yourself that you've got the first idea what I think or want. You haven't got the first idea. Discuss this like a grown up or toddle off and leave it to grown ups to discuss. Right, let's meet up then and discuss this face to face like grown ups.
I'd rather level with no deal - and to hell with it, whatever happens, happens! Two World Wars didn't finish us, not joining the single currency didn't destroy our economy. Voting to leave didn't plunge us into recession. So who knows? The 'experts' might be right and it could be the worst thing we've done - or it could all be exaggerated and ultimately unravel as untrue scaremongering.
Then again, I'd rather Tony Blair had not allowed immigration numbers to be so high in the first place as then maybe 'Vote Remain' would have won, as you don't have to be Albert Einstein to work out that the mass flow of EU foreigners onto these shores made some folk vote to leave in the first place and gave the likes of Nigel Farage ammunition.
Nobody knows what will happen under any of the ridiculous number of different outcomes - not even the 'experts' who offer their wisdom on this forum, rather than in Westminster.I'd rather level with no deal - and to hell with it, whatever happens, happens! Two World Wars didn't finish us, not joining the single currency didn't destroy our economy. Voting to leave didn't plunge us into recession. So who knows? The 'experts' might be right and it could be the worst thing we've done - or it could all be exaggerated and ultimately unravel as untrue scaremongering.Then again, I'd rather Tony Blair had not allowed immigration numbers to be so high in the first place as then maybe 'Vote Remain' would have won, as you don't have to be Albert Einstein to work out that the mass flow of EU foreigners onto these shores made some folk vote to leave in the first place and gave the likes of Nigel Farage ammunition.It's all a bloody great big mess!