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Quote from: scawsby steve on September 17, 2019, 02:20:46 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on September 16, 2019, 11:12:13 pmQuote from: IDM on September 16, 2019, 05:27:14 pmMaybe I’m being really simple here..BJ is telling the EU he is prepared to leave on 31 Oct with no deal, and won’t accept an extension. But the UK now has a law that he must ask for an extension of Brexit is not resolved with an agreement by 17/18 October..Does that mean he is blatantly saying he IS prepared to break the law.? Does he think the EU politicians and our own Parliament are stupid.?When will this stupid idiot accept that no deal is not an option..? Nope, but he knows that a large number of the British public are; and that's all that matters.Stupid? Well done NNK, true to form.You lot just don't get it do you? Firstly, there's only one of me - not a 'lot'. Secondly, when something is shown to be either a lie or just plain wrong, then if people a) continue to believe it and/or b) continue to repeat it, or c) base all their arguments on it then what are they other than stupid? Do you, honestly, still believe the lies that not only were being told then, but are continuing to be told now? An awful lot of people still do.
Quote from: Not Now Kato on September 16, 2019, 11:12:13 pmQuote from: IDM on September 16, 2019, 05:27:14 pmMaybe I’m being really simple here..BJ is telling the EU he is prepared to leave on 31 Oct with no deal, and won’t accept an extension. But the UK now has a law that he must ask for an extension of Brexit is not resolved with an agreement by 17/18 October..Does that mean he is blatantly saying he IS prepared to break the law.? Does he think the EU politicians and our own Parliament are stupid.?When will this stupid idiot accept that no deal is not an option..? Nope, but he knows that a large number of the British public are; and that's all that matters.Stupid? Well done NNK, true to form.You lot just don't get it do you?
Quote from: IDM on September 16, 2019, 05:27:14 pmMaybe I’m being really simple here..BJ is telling the EU he is prepared to leave on 31 Oct with no deal, and won’t accept an extension. But the UK now has a law that he must ask for an extension of Brexit is not resolved with an agreement by 17/18 October..Does that mean he is blatantly saying he IS prepared to break the law.? Does he think the EU politicians and our own Parliament are stupid.?When will this stupid idiot accept that no deal is not an option..? Nope, but he knows that a large number of the British public are; and that's all that matters.
Maybe I’m being really simple here..BJ is telling the EU he is prepared to leave on 31 Oct with no deal, and won’t accept an extension. But the UK now has a law that he must ask for an extension of Brexit is not resolved with an agreement by 17/18 October..Does that mean he is blatantly saying he IS prepared to break the law.? Does he think the EU politicians and our own Parliament are stupid.?When will this stupid idiot accept that no deal is not an option..?
Quote from: scawsby steve on September 17, 2019, 04:06:50 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on September 17, 2019, 03:48:01 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on September 17, 2019, 03:47:17 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on September 17, 2019, 03:39:49 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on September 17, 2019, 03:23:29 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on September 17, 2019, 03:05:10 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on September 17, 2019, 02:20:46 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on September 16, 2019, 11:12:13 pmQuote from: IDM on September 16, 2019, 05:27:14 pmMaybe I’m being really simple here..BJ is telling the EU he is prepared to leave on 31 Oct with no deal, and won’t accept an extension. But the UK now has a law that he must ask for an extension of Brexit is not resolved with an agreement by 17/18 October..Does that mean he is blatantly saying he IS prepared to break the law.? Does he think the EU politicians and our own Parliament are stupid.?When will this stupid idiot accept that no deal is not an option..? Nope, but he knows that a large number of the British public are; and that's all that matters.Stupid? Well done NNK, true to form.You lot just don't get it do you? Firstly, there's only one of me - not a 'lot'. Secondly, when something is shown to be either a lie or just plain wrong, then if people a) continue to believe it and/or b) continue to repeat it, or c) base all their arguments on it then what are they other than stupid? Do you, honestly, still believe the lies that not only were being told then, but are continuing to be told now? An awful lot of people still do.You're one of a lot on here that constantly sneer and insult.As regards lies, do you still believe the lie that Corbyn is pro-EU?So are you, looking at the posts you've made only today.Show me where I've insulted anyone.QuoteStupid? Well done NNK, true to form.You lot just don't get it do you?Two sneers for the price of one right there.What? I'm not allowed to defend myself against someone who says Brexiters are stupid?You're so blinkered and partisan that you've lost the ability to think clearly and objectively. Is that an insult? If so, have that one on me.And it's a hat-trick!I'm not saying don't defend your viewpoint but don't you think it makes you look a total prat when you continually moan about people sneering on this forum when it's all you ever do yourself to 'defend' yourself?
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on September 17, 2019, 03:48:01 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on September 17, 2019, 03:47:17 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on September 17, 2019, 03:39:49 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on September 17, 2019, 03:23:29 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on September 17, 2019, 03:05:10 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on September 17, 2019, 02:20:46 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on September 16, 2019, 11:12:13 pmQuote from: IDM on September 16, 2019, 05:27:14 pmMaybe I’m being really simple here..BJ is telling the EU he is prepared to leave on 31 Oct with no deal, and won’t accept an extension. But the UK now has a law that he must ask for an extension of Brexit is not resolved with an agreement by 17/18 October..Does that mean he is blatantly saying he IS prepared to break the law.? Does he think the EU politicians and our own Parliament are stupid.?When will this stupid idiot accept that no deal is not an option..? Nope, but he knows that a large number of the British public are; and that's all that matters.Stupid? Well done NNK, true to form.You lot just don't get it do you? Firstly, there's only one of me - not a 'lot'. Secondly, when something is shown to be either a lie or just plain wrong, then if people a) continue to believe it and/or b) continue to repeat it, or c) base all their arguments on it then what are they other than stupid? Do you, honestly, still believe the lies that not only were being told then, but are continuing to be told now? An awful lot of people still do.You're one of a lot on here that constantly sneer and insult.As regards lies, do you still believe the lie that Corbyn is pro-EU?So are you, looking at the posts you've made only today.Show me where I've insulted anyone.QuoteStupid? Well done NNK, true to form.You lot just don't get it do you?Two sneers for the price of one right there.What? I'm not allowed to defend myself against someone who says Brexiters are stupid?You're so blinkered and partisan that you've lost the ability to think clearly and objectively. Is that an insult? If so, have that one on me.
Quote from: scawsby steve on September 17, 2019, 03:47:17 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on September 17, 2019, 03:39:49 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on September 17, 2019, 03:23:29 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on September 17, 2019, 03:05:10 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on September 17, 2019, 02:20:46 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on September 16, 2019, 11:12:13 pmQuote from: IDM on September 16, 2019, 05:27:14 pmMaybe I’m being really simple here..BJ is telling the EU he is prepared to leave on 31 Oct with no deal, and won’t accept an extension. But the UK now has a law that he must ask for an extension of Brexit is not resolved with an agreement by 17/18 October..Does that mean he is blatantly saying he IS prepared to break the law.? Does he think the EU politicians and our own Parliament are stupid.?When will this stupid idiot accept that no deal is not an option..? Nope, but he knows that a large number of the British public are; and that's all that matters.Stupid? Well done NNK, true to form.You lot just don't get it do you? Firstly, there's only one of me - not a 'lot'. Secondly, when something is shown to be either a lie or just plain wrong, then if people a) continue to believe it and/or b) continue to repeat it, or c) base all their arguments on it then what are they other than stupid? Do you, honestly, still believe the lies that not only were being told then, but are continuing to be told now? An awful lot of people still do.You're one of a lot on here that constantly sneer and insult.As regards lies, do you still believe the lie that Corbyn is pro-EU?So are you, looking at the posts you've made only today.Show me where I've insulted anyone.QuoteStupid? Well done NNK, true to form.You lot just don't get it do you?Two sneers for the price of one right there.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on September 17, 2019, 03:39:49 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on September 17, 2019, 03:23:29 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on September 17, 2019, 03:05:10 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on September 17, 2019, 02:20:46 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on September 16, 2019, 11:12:13 pmQuote from: IDM on September 16, 2019, 05:27:14 pmMaybe I’m being really simple here..BJ is telling the EU he is prepared to leave on 31 Oct with no deal, and won’t accept an extension. But the UK now has a law that he must ask for an extension of Brexit is not resolved with an agreement by 17/18 October..Does that mean he is blatantly saying he IS prepared to break the law.? Does he think the EU politicians and our own Parliament are stupid.?When will this stupid idiot accept that no deal is not an option..? Nope, but he knows that a large number of the British public are; and that's all that matters.Stupid? Well done NNK, true to form.You lot just don't get it do you? Firstly, there's only one of me - not a 'lot'. Secondly, when something is shown to be either a lie or just plain wrong, then if people a) continue to believe it and/or b) continue to repeat it, or c) base all their arguments on it then what are they other than stupid? Do you, honestly, still believe the lies that not only were being told then, but are continuing to be told now? An awful lot of people still do.You're one of a lot on here that constantly sneer and insult.As regards lies, do you still believe the lie that Corbyn is pro-EU?So are you, looking at the posts you've made only today.Show me where I've insulted anyone.
Quote from: scawsby steve on September 17, 2019, 03:23:29 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on September 17, 2019, 03:05:10 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on September 17, 2019, 02:20:46 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on September 16, 2019, 11:12:13 pmQuote from: IDM on September 16, 2019, 05:27:14 pmMaybe I’m being really simple here..BJ is telling the EU he is prepared to leave on 31 Oct with no deal, and won’t accept an extension. But the UK now has a law that he must ask for an extension of Brexit is not resolved with an agreement by 17/18 October..Does that mean he is blatantly saying he IS prepared to break the law.? Does he think the EU politicians and our own Parliament are stupid.?When will this stupid idiot accept that no deal is not an option..? Nope, but he knows that a large number of the British public are; and that's all that matters.Stupid? Well done NNK, true to form.You lot just don't get it do you? Firstly, there's only one of me - not a 'lot'. Secondly, when something is shown to be either a lie or just plain wrong, then if people a) continue to believe it and/or b) continue to repeat it, or c) base all their arguments on it then what are they other than stupid? Do you, honestly, still believe the lies that not only were being told then, but are continuing to be told now? An awful lot of people still do.You're one of a lot on here that constantly sneer and insult.As regards lies, do you still believe the lie that Corbyn is pro-EU?So are you, looking at the posts you've made only today.
Quote from: Not Now Kato on September 17, 2019, 03:05:10 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on September 17, 2019, 02:20:46 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on September 16, 2019, 11:12:13 pmQuote from: IDM on September 16, 2019, 05:27:14 pmMaybe I’m being really simple here..BJ is telling the EU he is prepared to leave on 31 Oct with no deal, and won’t accept an extension. But the UK now has a law that he must ask for an extension of Brexit is not resolved with an agreement by 17/18 October..Does that mean he is blatantly saying he IS prepared to break the law.? Does he think the EU politicians and our own Parliament are stupid.?When will this stupid idiot accept that no deal is not an option..? Nope, but he knows that a large number of the British public are; and that's all that matters.Stupid? Well done NNK, true to form.You lot just don't get it do you? Firstly, there's only one of me - not a 'lot'. Secondly, when something is shown to be either a lie or just plain wrong, then if people a) continue to believe it and/or b) continue to repeat it, or c) base all their arguments on it then what are they other than stupid? Do you, honestly, still believe the lies that not only were being told then, but are continuing to be told now? An awful lot of people still do.You're one of a lot on here that constantly sneer and insult.As regards lies, do you still believe the lie that Corbyn is pro-EU?
Stupid? Well done NNK, true to form.You lot just don't get it do you?
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on September 17, 2019, 04:13:55 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on September 17, 2019, 04:06:50 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on September 17, 2019, 03:48:01 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on September 17, 2019, 03:47:17 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on September 17, 2019, 03:39:49 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on September 17, 2019, 03:23:29 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on September 17, 2019, 03:05:10 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on September 17, 2019, 02:20:46 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on September 16, 2019, 11:12:13 pmQuote from: IDM on September 16, 2019, 05:27:14 pmMaybe I’m being really simple here..BJ is telling the EU he is prepared to leave on 31 Oct with no deal, and won’t accept an extension. But the UK now has a law that he must ask for an extension of Brexit is not resolved with an agreement by 17/18 October..Does that mean he is blatantly saying he IS prepared to break the law.? Does he think the EU politicians and our own Parliament are stupid.?When will this stupid idiot accept that no deal is not an option..? Nope, but he knows that a large number of the British public are; and that's all that matters.Stupid? Well done NNK, true to form.You lot just don't get it do you? Firstly, there's only one of me - not a 'lot'. Secondly, when something is shown to be either a lie or just plain wrong, then if people a) continue to believe it and/or b) continue to repeat it, or c) base all their arguments on it then what are they other than stupid? Do you, honestly, still believe the lies that not only were being told then, but are continuing to be told now? An awful lot of people still do.You're one of a lot on here that constantly sneer and insult.As regards lies, do you still believe the lie that Corbyn is pro-EU?So are you, looking at the posts you've made only today.Show me where I've insulted anyone.QuoteStupid? Well done NNK, true to form.You lot just don't get it do you?Two sneers for the price of one right there.What? I'm not allowed to defend myself against someone who says Brexiters are stupid?You're so blinkered and partisan that you've lost the ability to think clearly and objectively. Is that an insult? If so, have that one on me.And it's a hat-trick!I'm not saying don't defend your viewpoint but don't you think it makes you look a total prat when you continually moan about people sneering on this forum when it's all you ever do yourself to 'defend' yourself?A total prat? I think you need to be a bit careful with your words old lad.
never mind Corbyn , answer the question.Or: tell me just ONE tangible , and confirmable way in which you, me and my familywill be better off by the UK leaving the EU ?Or:tell me just ONE tangible, and confirmable way in being in the EU makes things difficult for you.
Quote from: foxbat on September 17, 2019, 03:39:03 pmnever mind Corbyn , answer the question.Or: tell me just ONE tangible , and confirmable way in which you, me and my familywill be better off by the UK leaving the EU ?Or:tell me just ONE tangible, and confirmable way in being in the EU makes things difficult for you.The problem with that question is that you sometimes get a reply that you don’t like and go into denial (not you specifically, but remainers in general). Earlier this year we discussed rail nationalisation as a benefit of leaving and how EU membership makes this almost impossible (and after 2023 will become even more difficult) and I was shouted down! Even though I know from absolute experience that it’s true! See what I mean? So, let’s try another. One of the reasons I voted leave was that I’m very uncomfortable with Britain being part of the ever closer union that Brussels is moving towards. If we were to stay in the EU I doubt it’d continue to be on our current terms. I could see the U.K. rebate disappearing, increased regulatory alignment, eventual membership of the Euro and the EU army. By leaving we’d immediately be able to begin making free trade agreements with the rest of the world. We’d have full control of our fisheries and agriculture, which given the size of our population, we could offset any loss in exports by increased domestic consumption. Brexit is full of uncertainty. Nobody knows what’s going to happen but we all know what could happen. Brexit can be a success or a failure and that depends on the people delivering it.
Aldi are clearly concerned about their future in the U.K. After Brexit! So much so that they are investing £350 million in new Stores.
big boom for budget food stores . Brexiters looking forward to the return to powdered egg to celebrate how ' we won the war ' . They used to make a ' marmalade ' out of carrots, apparently, cant wait for that.who says you can't enjoy living in a 3rd world country ?
Quote from: foxbat on September 17, 2019, 08:56:00 pmbig boom for budget food stores . Brexiters looking forward to the return to powdered egg to celebrate how ' we won the war ' . They used to make a ' marmalade ' out of carrots, apparently, cant wait for that.who says you can't enjoy living in a 3rd world country ?Perhaps they ought to sign up Mark 'Uncle Albert' Francois to front the ad campaign..?
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on September 17, 2019, 09:15:51 pmQuote from: foxbat on September 17, 2019, 08:56:00 pmbig boom for budget food stores . Brexiters looking forward to the return to powdered egg to celebrate how ' we won the war ' . They used to make a ' marmalade ' out of carrots, apparently, cant wait for that.who says you can't enjoy living in a 3rd world country ?Perhaps they ought to sign up Mark 'Uncle Albert' Francois to front the ad campaign..?840 Aldi stores opened in the UK while we’ve been in the EU, so it can’t be that bad can it? Fancy having budget food stores in the land of EU milk and honey...
HAI don't understand you.You're a socialist, no?You've seen Brexit hijacked by the extreme Right of British politics.What do you think is going to come out well from this?Honest, open question.
I see that Farage's lies about the EU being undemocratic are still being permitted on here.This isn't the BBC , statements like this being presented as truth won't go unchallenged( how many times )WE elect the MEPs , THEY elect the officials. What could be more democratic than that ?anyone ?this from a country that has just had its parliament shut down like some 3rd world military dictatorship
HAI get the theoretical arguments about this awful, undemocratic bureaucracy in Brussels.But I tend to prefer empirical evidence to theory.In practice, what laws has it imposed on us that you wouldn't have wanted?
Appreciate your reply HA, I really do. You are actually the only person so far that has highlighted potential benefits, which I agree are potential benefits. However, like you said, these things are also possible whilst still in the EU, although they may be more difficult to achieve. Public ownership and Lower VAT rates could be looked into right now, but a Tory government certainly wouldn't do these things, and it would be difficult for Labour unless they win an election with a majority. These, for me, point to how Brexit has been used to deceive the majority of Brexiteers; the falsehood that all problems are caused by EU, and are somehow not political decisions made by the UK government. Privatisation, higher VAT, austerity - all choices made by the government; nothing to do AT ALL with the EU.
Nigel Farage walks into a pub and says, "I'll have a pint of beer, please." The barman pulls a pint, then throws it all over Farage.'What did you do that for?' says Farage.'Because you're in a metaphor which illustrates the stupidity of asking for something, but not stipulating how you wanted it delivered. ''OK then... I'll have a pint -- this time in a glass!' says Farage.'You can't ask again!' says the barman.'Why not?' snivelled Farage.'Democracy.' says the barman.