Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

[DonnyOsmond]

https://twitter.com/lbcbreaking/status/1178938072416886784?s=19

[BillyStubbsTears]

LOL yes absolutely certain.

Politicians say one thing but do another in typical Politician style (same as I can remember for 50 years)

Whatever happens EU wise - I do not trust one word that Johnson says . He is a serial liar.

I have sympathy with people who say that all politicians bend the truth. But it's about the degree. Very, very few lie explicitly about objective truth. That's why the one in the hospital the other day was so worrying, when Johnson said that there was no press presence there...in front of the press. That was an insight into his approach to dealing with problems. Put him on the spot and his instinctive reaction is to lie.

You can't over-emphaise the fact that this is not normal. It is NOT what politicians usually do. It is pathologically dangerous

[bobjimwilly]

The opposition need to get their act together and vote for no confidence in the Prime Minister; then he'll look even more of a t**t

[BillyStubbsTears]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49890199

Boris Johnson has rejected leaked claims overnight that the government has proposed "customs clearance zones" to tackle the Irish border issue.

So the Govt will have been planning to have customs clearance zones then.

So. As I was saying...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49890199

[scawsby steve]

The opposition need to get their act together and vote for no confidence in the Prime Minister; then he'll look even more of a t**t

Can't happen Bob. That would mean a government of national unity, and the other parties won't agree to Corbyn leading it.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Yeah. The LDs are showing their true colours aren't they?

Meatloaf politicians

They would do anything to stop No Deal, but they won't do that.

[scawsby steve]

Yeah. The LDs are showing their true colours aren't they?

Meatloaf politicians

They would do anything to stop No Deal, but they won't do that.

I've said for many years that the Lib Dems are a party of chancers and opportunists; and Jo Swinson is just a joke.

[wilts rover]

Only a matter of weeks ago this bloke was seen as electoral gold because of his character.

He doesn't even know which cup to use...

https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/1179002930386669569?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1179002930386669569&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fpolitics%2F2019%2Foct%2F01%2Fno-disposable-cups-boris-johnsons-aide-confiscates-his-drink

[BillyStubbsTears]

I can just picture Malcolm Tucker turning up and shouting, "Hey you! Yes you, you great fat posh f**k. Just...just f**king stand over there and practice saying "Surrender Act". And try not to f**king touch anything."

[bobjimwilly]

I've said for many years that the Lib Dems are a party of chancers and opportunists; and Jo Swinson is just a joke.

that is something we can definitely agree on

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

We could say that about them all though couldn't we? None of them will budge as the next election is still more important to them all.

Parliament returned last week and what has parliament done in that time.  Nice win over boris but nothing else.

[SydneyRover]

Just in: Johnson refuses to deny that he's a tw@t

[albie]

Swinson is just keeping up a long tradition for the LibDems.

Remember this;
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECFKRvvXUAAs6uX.jpg

They followed up that winner with this:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECFKSEtW4AASg4Q.jpg

You would not want to rely on them, would you?

[bobbymax]

Swinson's voting record is more right-wing than most Tories. If she facilitates a Johnson no deal, she's doing it for personal gain. Horrible woman who leads a near-dead party of delusional individuals.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Amazing though isnt it.  Swinson saying she wont back Corbyn is an idiot, but Corbyn saying he'll only go for no confidence if he can be pm, is perfectly fine.....

[BillyStubbsTears]

BFYP

When has Corbyn said that?

God knows I'm no fan of his, but to the best of my knowledge, he's said only that convention points to the Leader of the Opposition being the one to have first shot at forming a Govt in the event of a NC vote.

Swinson is the one playing silly f**kers there. Corbyn's being absolutely straight.

[wilts rover]

I am not saying this is true, I have no idea, but Paul Mason was Economics Editor for Channel 4 & Newsnight - so you would expect knows a few people in the city:

Swinson wont support Corbyn because a number of city firms have become LD backers and they have told her not to. No Deal is better than Corbyn

https://twitter.com/paulmasonnews/status/1178938446267785216

[BillyStubbsTears]

For what it's worth, if the ONLY way of stopping No Deal was to put Ken Clark in No10 as temporary PM, I have no doubt that Corbyn would support that.

I'm not convinced that Swinson would put Corbyn in No10 if that was the only way of stopping No Deal.

If you think about it, crashing out on No Deal wouldn't be a bad outcome for the LDs. There would be outrage from 70% of the population, and the LDs would say, at the subsequent Election, "Well WE were the only party firmly in favour of Remain."

I'm not saying the Lads have no princi...

f**k it yes I am. This is the party that campaigned vigorously against Austerity in 2010, then signed up for it lock stock and barrel in Coalition, because the Leader said he had changed his mind a couple of days before the Election. But never told anyone.

A bunch of unprincipled shysters.

[Donnywolf]

.... I seem to rememeber they also had a very pro stance on PR and I was heartened - but they seemed to settle for something much less when in Coalition.

They also had the stance on Tuition Fees which was thrown overboard much to their cost and the Students it directly affected

Note : some of the above may not be quite accurate but my memory for such things has limitations - and I cant be bothered to look them up

Bringing it back to Johnson and politics as a whole - they rely on people like me and those who : were not alive or politically aware or remember to get away with the c**p they keep getting away with.

Have those Pacer Trains gone yet ? I do remember them because every transport Minister mentions them when there is trouble rail wise. Pacers are to be replaced to bring improvements and bring us up north in line with elsewhere as they are being replaced by luxurious Rolling Stock before 16 17 18 19 20 21 the end of 21 ?    1 of 79 replaced last time I knew

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

BFYP

When has Corbyn said that?

God knows I'm no fan of his, but to the best of my knowledge, he's said only that convention points to the Leader of the Opposition being the one to have first shot at forming a Govt in the event of a NC vote.

Swinson is the one playing silly f**kers there. Corbyn's being absolutely straight.

A simple article here in the guardian for one.....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/30/opposition-parties-to-start-planning-for-national-unity-government

Or here from McDonnell...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/01/corbyn-caretaker-government-mcdonnell-labour

I'm pretty sure that backs up my point that all parties want it on their terms.....

[DonnyOsmond]

So Corbyn himself has never said that.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

No he absolutely does not drive the stance....

Ultimately wont happen though as the numbers will never be there.

[SydneyRover]

''Boris Johnson: £400m a week claim fact-checked'' By Reality Check

The claim: Boris Johnson said: "Were we obliged to the stay in the EU, we would need a bigger bus, because the figure would go up and I think it will be rising [to] £400m gross."

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49891899

[SydneyRover]

''Conference pledges but it's Brexit that will make or break PM

One diplomatic source, when asked if there was a way to tweak the deal, to use the political phrase, put lipstick on the pig, told me, "we do have a lipstick in our pocket, but we can only use it once".

Timing and trust may be everything. And we may know in a matter of days, not weeks, if there is a real chance of Boris Johnson achieving a deal''

johnson said ''oink''

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49887640

[SydneyRover]

Brexit plan revealed: Telegraph obtains proposal Boris Johnson will send to Brussels

Boris Johnson will on Wednesday unveil a radical new ‘two borders for four years’ Brexit plan which will leave Northern Ireland in a special relationship with Europe until 2025, The Telegraph can reveal.

The plan, which was briefed to major EU capitals on Tuesday, will accept the need for both a regulatory border between Great Britain and Northern Ireland in the Irish Sea for four years  - and customs checks between the North and the Republic of Ireland.

The UK’s proposed replacement for the existing Irish backstop is expected to face fierce opposition from EU leaders who will be asked to grant the UK sweeping exemptions from EU customs rules to ...... paywall


the super sleuths at the tele get the lowdown on johnson's latest pile of manure

Added:

the Times, the Tele and the Sun are locked in behind johnson's plan while the Express has a page full of contradictions and undecipherable rubbish

[BillyStubbsTears]

BFYP

When has Corbyn said that?

God knows I'm no fan of his, but to the best of my knowledge, he's said only that convention points to the Leader of the Opposition being the one to have first shot at forming a Govt in the event of a NC vote.

Swinson is the one playing silly f**kers there. Corbyn's being absolutely straight.

A simple article here in the guardian for one.....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/30/opposition-parties-to-start-planning-for-national-unity-government

Or here from McDonnell...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/01/corbyn-caretaker-government-mcdonnell-labour

I'm pretty sure that backs up my point that all parties want it on their terms.....

Point taken. I'd missed that.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Politics, late 2019 No.2.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MattChorley/status/1179353250824364032

Yeah alright. That'd be funny on a panel show.

Maybe that's what we've got. Just a reality TV star as f**king PM.

[Not Now Kato]

Our Best Kept Village Idiot Of The Year strike Again!
 
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-nuclear-fusion-lab-eu-funding-brexit-conference-speech-tory-a9130381.html
 

[Glyn_Wigley]

Our Best Kept Village Idiot Of The Year strike Again!
 
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-nuclear-fusion-lab-eu-funding-brexit-conference-speech-tory-a9130381.html
 

And that's the kind of stuff the divorce bill is paying for too.

[SydneyRover]

Oh my god, I don't believe it, fake nooze,

''Dominic Cummings accused of lying to undermine MPs

Johnson’s chief of staff lied to media about drafting of Benn act, Grieve says at PMQs''

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/02/dominic-cummings-accused-of-lying-to-undermine-mps-boris-johnson-benn-act-pmqs