Parliament to be prorogued

[BillyStubbsTears]

There was a rumour that the redacted paragraph in Yellowhammer was instructions to broadcasters in the event of No Deal.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheBirmingham6/status/1171698671576109057

[bpoolrover]

Why do you think every labour leader has told the truth to the queen? If labour got in with Corbyn in charge because of his foreign policy ect. You would have to worry that the country would be worse off, of that there is no doubt as he is a liability but you would still vote labour bst on the blind trust it would work out would you agree with that?

[RedJ]

Jesus, I could've put me house on you posting something like that.

[DonnyOsmond]

Why do you think every labour leader has told the truth to the queen? If labour got in with Corbyn in charge because of his foreign policy ect. You would have to worry that the country would be worse off, of that there is no doubt as he is a liability but you would still vote labour bst on the blind trust it would work out would you agree with that?

We've put in the Conservatives and since 2015 they've f**ked up this country, you're going on a bunch of what ifs. Stop being so ridiculous.

[RedJ]

Why do you think every labour leader has told the truth to the queen? If labour got in with Corbyn in charge because of his foreign policy ect. You would have to worry that the country would be worse off, of that there is no doubt as he is a liability but you would still vote labour bst on the blind trust it would work out would you agree with that?

We've put in the Conservatives and since 2015 they've f**ked up this country, you're going on a bunch of what ifs. Stop being so ridiculous.

If you notice, you never actually get a straight response. It's always "something something something Labour".

[Bentley Bullet]

For a calm kind of guy, it really makes my piss boil to see Jeremy Corbyn sit back in an Alan B'stard style of calm innocence while at the same time showing an expression of shock and disbelief at the rest of the population because it has failed to keep up with his understanding of the situation.

It is f**king embarrassing......... yet people fall for it!

[DonnyOsmond]

Why do you think every labour leader has told the truth to the queen? If labour got in with Corbyn in charge because of his foreign policy ect. You would have to worry that the country would be worse off, of that there is no doubt as he is a liability but you would still vote labour bst on the blind trust it would work out would you agree with that?

We've put in the Conservatives and since 2015 they've f**ked up this country, you're going on a bunch of what ifs. Stop being so ridiculous.

If you notice, you never actually get a straight response. It's always "something something something Labour".

Reminds me of that debate where a bunch of old white men were asking Corbyn again and again why he wouldn't nuke a bunch of innocent people.

FFS our current government sell weapons to Saudi Arabia who either then sell them to ISIS or attack Yemen with them.

[BillyStubbsTears]

So let's just recap.

Boris Johnson has been judged to have lied to the Queen, in order to illegally close down Parliament, to stop MPs holding him to account while he tries to ram through a No Deal Brexit, the consequences of which he lied about.

And the response from the Brexit Death Cult in here is not so much as a shrug of the shoulders?

And you all claim to be passionate defenders of democracy!?!

[DonnyOsmond]

Farage says it's Project Fear. No mate, it's the Governments analysis on the affects of the country f**king itself over. f**k me the Far Right are spesh.

[BillyStubbsTears]

You reading that, Brexit supporters?

Yellowhammer was leaked to this journalist in August. It was headed "Base Scenario".

What's been released today is identical to the document she got last month,except it's headed "Reasonable Worst Case Scenario".

You
Are
Being
Lied
To
Systematically
By
This
Govt.

As I was saying.
https://mobile.twitter.com/michaelgove/status/1171909615157764096

Utterly f**king shameless.

See you, Brexit/Tory supporters? You KNOW what's happening here don't you?

Gove thinks you're either too thick to know he's lying to you, or too far gone to care.

[BillyStubbsTears]

It's just hit me.

How f**king surreal this is.

The Govt has had to be legally stopped by Parliament from going for No Deal

The Govt's own planning documents say that the base case outcome after No Deal is food and medicine shortages, no petrol at the pumps, queues of lorries back from Dover to the Dartford Tunnel and riots.

Govt policy was to go for that. And there's folk in here just nodding and saying, "Aye. No bother." And whining that Parliament stopping them was an insult to the common man.

f**k me. We might actually be permanently f**ked here, if folk can't see through this.

[SydneyRover]

I wouldn't be surprised at all to see people out on the streets rioting causing chaos and generally disrupting everyone's lives screaming I want no deal and I want it now?

[GazLaz]

If YellowHammer is the worst case, what’s the best case? Remaining?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Gaz.

It's NOT the worst case. The Govt is systematically lying about this.

[SydneyRover]

The Yellowhammer file, which is redacted in parts and almost identical to a version leaked to the Sunday Times last month, says a no-deal Brexit could lead to:

    a "decrease" in certain types of fresh food and "shorter supply" of key ingredients

    price rises for food and fuel, which would "disproportionately" affect those with low incomes

    "disruption lasting up to six months" potentially affecting medicines and medical supplies

    protests and counter-protests across the UK

    lorries waiting for more than two days to cross the English Channel

The document also says some businesses could cease trading, the black market could grow, and some adult social care providers might fail.

Three years to plan, what could go wrong?

[drfcsteve]

As I've said before leave voters are too stubborn to admit they got it wrong. Fair enough vote for sunlit uplands, but when the FACTS are that brexit will be a load of shit, they still say "yep, that's what I want, that's what I voted for".

[MachoMadness]

It's really like a death cult at this point.

[BillyStubbsTears]

See. Another day, another lie from the complusive liar.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49674516

The High Court in London did NOT "plainly agree" with him. It said it wasn't their job to get involved. It made no comment whatsoever on whether he had lied or not

But that's Johnson. When in a corner, just lie and assume enough people are too thick or too bored to worry about it.

[SydneyRover]

From The Guardian (that nice independent newspaper)

The Guardian view on Boris Johnson and the crown: a clear abuse of power

last para:

The prime minister could still prove his respect for law by conceding that the prorogation was ill-conceived and seeking its reversal, although that would be out of character. It is revealing that Downing Street’s initial response to Wednesday’s ruling, briefed anonymously, insinuated that a Scottish court might be less reliable than an English one; not impartial on Brexit-related matters. Clarifications were hastily issued, but the damage was done. A trustworthy government does not have to make explicit its belief in the independence of the judiciary and its readiness to uphold the rule of law. But this administration holds fundamental precepts of democracy in contempt. Since Mr Johnson has no respect for the unwritten conventions that underpin the British constitution, he plainly cannot be trusted with the powers afforded by those conventions to the office of prime minister.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/11/the-guardian-view-on-boris-johnson-and-the-crown-a-clear-abuse-of-power

[scawsby steve]

Why do you think every labour leader has told the truth to the queen? If labour got in with Corbyn in charge because of his foreign policy ect. You would have to worry that the country would be worse off, of that there is no doubt as he is a liability but you would still vote labour bst on the blind trust it would work out would you agree with that?

We've put in the Conservatives and since 2015 they've f**ked up this country, you're going on a bunch of what ifs. Stop being so ridiculous.

If you notice, you never actually get a straight response. It's always "something something something Labour".

Reminds me of that debate where a bunch of old white men were asking Corbyn again and again why he wouldn't nuke a bunch of innocent people.

FFS our current government sell weapons to Saudi Arabia who either then sell them to ISIS or attack Yemen with them.

Here we go again; "a bunch of old white men".

Have you any idea how racist and insulting that is?

THAT's what this is about; 3 years of insults and sneering from you lot. We'll take our revenge in the right way; in the polling booths.

[SydneyRover]

That's may be OK for you landed gentry-tory toffs but what about the workers?

[GazLaz]

Why do you think every labour leader has told the truth to the queen? If labour got in with Corbyn in charge because of his foreign policy ect. You would have to worry that the country would be worse off, of that there is no doubt as he is a liability but you would still vote labour bst on the blind trust it would work out would you agree with that?

We've put in the Conservatives and since 2015 they've f**ked up this country, you're going on a bunch of what ifs. Stop being so ridiculous.

If you notice, you never actually get a straight response. It's always "something something something Labour".

Reminds me of that debate where a bunch of old white men were asking Corbyn again and again why he wouldn't nuke a bunch of innocent people.

FFS our current government sell weapons to Saudi Arabia who either then sell them to ISIS or attack Yemen with them.

Here we go again; "a bunch of old white men".

Have you any idea how racist and insulting that is?

THAT's what this is about; 3 years of insults and sneering from you lot. We'll take our revenge in the right way; in the polling booths.

It’s generally only racist white people that take offence to people being referred to as white.

[scawsby steve]

Why do you think every labour leader has told the truth to the queen? If labour got in with Corbyn in charge because of his foreign policy ect. You would have to worry that the country would be worse off, of that there is no doubt as he is a liability but you would still vote labour bst on the blind trust it would work out would you agree with that?

We've put in the Conservatives and since 2015 they've f**ked up this country, you're going on a bunch of what ifs. Stop being so ridiculous.

If you notice, you never actually get a straight response. It's always "something something something Labour".

Reminds me of that debate where a bunch of old white men were asking Corbyn again and again why he wouldn't nuke a bunch of innocent people.

FFS our current government sell weapons to Saudi Arabia who either then sell them to ISIS or attack Yemen with them.

Here we go again; "a bunch of old white men".

Have you any idea how racist and insulting that is?

THAT's what this is about; 3 years of insults and sneering from you lot. We'll take our revenge in the right way; in the polling booths.

It’s generally only racist white people that take offence to people being referred to as white.

You're way out of line Gaz; I've never been racist in my life.

[wilts rover]

https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1171856467596578816?s=19

Yellowhammer docs thread.

Shall we have a quiz? So what does it say in the redacted para 15?

I reckon its the troops on the streets.

Nope.
No petrol at the pumps for a couple of weeks, apparently.

We were both (sort of) right. Rosamund Unwin was interviewed on the radio today and as she has already published the info she was able to say that it is: the closure of several oil refineries with around 2500 job losses, fuel shortages, rationing and price rises and troops being used to drive tankers.

Who knew taking back control would lead to so many benefits.

[DonnyOsmond]

Why do you think every labour leader has told the truth to the queen? If labour got in with Corbyn in charge because of his foreign policy ect. You would have to worry that the country would be worse off, of that there is no doubt as he is a liability but you would still vote labour bst on the blind trust it would work out would you agree with that?

We've put in the Conservatives and since 2015 they've f**ked up this country, you're going on a bunch of what ifs. Stop being so ridiculous.

If you notice, you never actually get a straight response. It's always "something something something Labour".

Reminds me of that debate where a bunch of old white men were asking Corbyn again and again why he wouldn't nuke a bunch of innocent people.

FFS our current government sell weapons to Saudi Arabia who either then sell them to ISIS or attack Yemen with them.

Here we go again; "a bunch of old white men".

Have you any idea how racist and insulting that is?

THAT's what this is about; 3 years of insults and sneering from you lot. We'll take our revenge in the right way; in the polling booths.

It's not racist. The people making the comments were white and over 55.

[scawsby steve]

Why do you think every labour leader has told the truth to the queen? If labour got in with Corbyn in charge because of his foreign policy ect. You would have to worry that the country would be worse off, of that there is no doubt as he is a liability but you would still vote labour bst on the blind trust it would work out would you agree with that?

We've put in the Conservatives and since 2015 they've f**ked up this country, you're going on a bunch of what ifs. Stop being so ridiculous.

If you notice, you never actually get a straight response. It's always "something something something Labour".

Reminds me of that debate where a bunch of old white men were asking Corbyn again and again why he wouldn't nuke a bunch of innocent people.

FFS our current government sell weapons to Saudi Arabia who either then sell them to ISIS or attack Yemen with them.

Here we go again; "a bunch of old white men".

Have you any idea how racist and insulting that is?

THAT's what this is about; 3 years of insults and sneering from you lot. We'll take our revenge in the right way; in the polling booths.

It's not racist. The people making the comments were white and over 55.

Let's clear this up. I'm not accusing you of being racist, and never would. On reflection, I should have said that the statement could be considered racist.

I never said that you intentionally made a racist statement. My criticism was how it came across. Which is my point; that the insulting and sneering on both sides needs to stop.

We'll all get our chance in a few weeks time to do it democratically, in the polling booths.

[Padge_DRFC]

Remainers remind me of Liverpool fans. Offended by everything ashamed of nothing

[DonnyOsmond]

Remainers remind me of Liverpool fans. Offended by everything ashamed of nothing

I like how you posted that right after a Leaver being offended by something of nothing.

[BillyStubbsTears]

That's a very helpful contribution Padge. Thanks for that.

[bpoolrover]

That's may be OK for you landed gentry-tory toffs but what about the workers?

that’s a very strange way of putting it, there are many labour mps that are millionaires I know many labour voters that are wealthy and have hardly ever worked, the same goes with the tories of course, you say the workers but labour get more voters off people that don’t work than any other party