Brexit - the gift that keeps on giving.

[wilts rover]

  Thank god the EU have published their requirements for the Trade Negotiations, for a while I was thinking there would be nothing to argue about on here for twelve months.
  Let's hope we threaten to walk away on WTO that will get people uptight, and really going on here, even from as far away as Australia.

Err you do know that threatening to walk away on WTO has no been remarketed as have an Australian Style Deal - who better to inform us on the 'details' of that than someone in Australia!

[BillyStubbsTears]

  Thank god the EU have published their requirements for the Trade Negotiations, for a while I was thinking there would be nothing to argue about on here for twelve months.
  Let's hope we threaten to walk away on WTO that will get people uptight, and really going on here, even from as far away as Australia.

It'll only get folk upset because it is so f**king stupid. The Government's own figures say that a WTO exit would knock 6-9% off GDP. Which is the same sort of effect as losing a major war. So no sane Governme....hang on! I've just seen the error in my logic.

[BillyStubbsTears]

You remember when this was going to be "the easiest negotiation in history".

Looks like one of the arch-Brexiteers has finally realised it isn't.
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/brexit/iain-duncan-smith-uk-brexit-negotiating-team-not-up-to-job-1888485

But. But. But...

If we hold all the cards, like his lot told us, surely the EU should just cave in and give us what we want?

Serious head on now. Just stop and think what this will look like in 100 years time. The damage Britain did to itself by listening to third-rate no-mark bell-ends like IDS, who know precisely f**k all about anything.

[SydneyRover]

If we held all the cards we'd already have it, surely 

[SydneyRover]

The Brexit jobs boom has started 

UK races to find extra 50,000 staff for post-Brexit paperwork
New recruits needed to process millions of extra declaration forms from 1 January 2021

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/28/extra-50000-border-staff-needed-for-post-brexit-trade-says-gove

[Glyn_Wigley]

The Brexit jobs boom has started 

UK races to find extra 50,000 staff for post-Brexit paperwork
New recruits needed to process millions of extra declaration forms from 1 January 2021

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/28/extra-50000-border-staff-needed-for-post-brexit-trade-says-gove

If only someone had known this was going to happen.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I reckon that'll be £2.5bn per year we have to pay. Excluding the initial training costs. For precisely zero benefit, other than the schadenfreude of making it harder for the EU to export to us.

Still, we took back control, eh?

[wilts rover]

So are people telling me we took back control from unelected bureaucrats (who had been elected btw, just by governments) so that we can employ more unelected bureaucrats at a greater cost to us?

#fakenews

[selby]

  The EU will be distracted with Syrians in the next few weeks about 3 million of them and rising.
  Funny how they all turn North West when coming out of Syria whats wrong with South East or North East do you think?

[Glyn_Wigley]

  The EU will be distracted with Syrians in the next few weeks about 3 million of them and rising.
  Funny how they all turn North West when coming out of Syria whats wrong with South East or North East do you think?

A lot of them will want to go to a country that they speak the language of. Wouldn't you?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Typical Selby. Ignore the points on our shores and thrap off over problems that other countries have. Like I've said before, the attitude is "I don't care if we lose as long as you don't win."

[selby]

  Nowt to do with Russia and Iran plus Saudi saying something that sounds like and resembles Sex and Travel has anything to do with it then Glyn. I wonder if they still like Italy?

[SydneyRover]

and as usual very little to do with the topic in hand but very farage like selby 

[selby]

 I am not used to compliments from you Syd, but the most successful politician of the last ten years in Europe apart from Putin is a bit far fetched.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I love the way Selby hides his wind up posts. His genuine belief ones are so ignorant and unpleasant that you can't tell the difference when he tries to play the ignorant and unpleasant caricature. Genius.

[Glyn_Wigley]

  Nowt to do with Russia and Iran plus Saudi saying something that sounds like and resembles Sex and Travel has anything to do with it then Glyn. I wonder if they still like Italy?

No, nowt.

[selby]

  What do you think the attraction of just Europe is then Glyn?

[Glyn_Wigley]

I've already said why I think a lot of people try to get to the UK. Did you have your eyes closed when you read it?

[selby]

  It might come as something of a surprise Glyn, but no I don't take a lot of notice if what you say buddy

[Glyn_Wigley]

  It might come as something of a surprise Glyn, but no I don't take a lot of notice if what you say buddy

It's nice that you treat my posts like you do everybody else's.

[SydneyRover]

David Lammy:

So now you admit the potential economic benefits of a UK-US trade deal are just +0.2% of GDP.

And the cost of Brexit is somewhere between -7.6% and -4.9% of GDP.

In what planet does this boost wages or create jobs for anyone except the Tory Cabinet? https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/1234372953552322560 …

Liz Truss
✔
@trussliz
Today I am publishing 🇬🇧 objectives for a trade deal with the 🇺🇸

We want an agreement that will benefit all parts of the UK, creating jobs and boosting wages for workers across the nation. #ukusftahttps://www.gov.uk/government/news/liz-truss-kick-starts-uk-us-trade-talks …

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/mar/02/brexit-uk-sets-out-its-ambitions-for-trade-deal-with-us-while-refusing-to-back-trumps-claim-of-massive-potential-benefits-live-news

There's a table on the Guardian which I'm unable to cut and paste.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Absolutely insane.

https://mobile.twitter.com/GeorgeWParker/status/1234442894951559170

Never in all history has a country, in peacetime, made a deliberate choice to make itself this much poorer.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Sorry Sydney. Just seen your earlier post.

Quite astonishingly, there is not a dickie bird about this on the BBC website.

[SydneyRover]

govt no longer accepts 2018 treasury analysis conducted by another govt (russia?) of US trade deal, a little bit late in the day for that i would have thought.? as it wont actually change anything except tge spin maybe.

[wilts rover]

You people are being generous - it says below 0.2% here - and may be as little as 0.02%

That's 450 times smaller than the expected loss from a No-Deal Brexit according to the governments own calculations.

The German car industry and French fishing fleet had better hurry up or there soon wont be anything less for them to save.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/us-trade-deal-brexit-uk-economy-boris-johnson-trump-gdp-a9369611.html

[DonnyOsmond]

French firm (Thales) wins Royal Navy Type 31 frigates contract

Oh well... voters cannot say they weren't warned.

- no more shipbuilding
- no more car manufactruing

This Tory #brexit is going to
destroy industries and entire communities

... but its what 'the people' voted for !

To be fair Thales is a worldwide company now and has numerous sites in the UK and even a site in Doncaster near Lakeside.

[SydneyRover]

Britians leavers awake to news that worlds second biggest liar has sold them a pup, again 

[wilts rover]

You said: Would the British public rather have a trade deal with Trump's US or the EU?

Our survey said....

https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1234501164818931715

[turnbull for england]

Ahh but listen to our international trade secretary, genius at work https://twitter.com/grahamlithgow/status/1234397631717281792?s=19

[BillyStubbsTears]

More information on the Govt's figures on the pitifully small boost our economy would get from a trade deal with the USA.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BenChu_/status/1234523136529485832

Lose 4-8% of GDP by cutting ties with the EU.

Gain 0.07-0.22% of GDP by dealing with the USA.

That's a net loss of £90-180bn. Every year.

Enough to build a HS2 every 6-12 months. For the forseeable future.

Still, we took back control, eh?

At what point do Leave supporters start to question themselves?