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Quote from: Jonathan on May 28, 2020, 10:28:30 pmI want the app to work and I want to be able to use it. I’d like to think there’ll be some independent assurances around the storage and processing of personal data. I think that’s perfectly reasonable. Well we both want to use it and hope it works. But I can't understand this about personal data, it stores so very little and what it does store cannot identify individuals. I just think there's far too much concern over nothing. As a society we hand over personal data all the time, loads of it by the bucket load and none of us bat an eyelid.
I want the app to work and I want to be able to use it. I’d like to think there’ll be some independent assurances around the storage and processing of personal data. I think that’s perfectly reasonable.
Quote from: silent majority on May 29, 2020, 11:34:01 amQuote from: Jonathan on May 28, 2020, 10:28:30 pmI want the app to work and I want to be able to use it. I’d like to think there’ll be some independent assurances around the storage and processing of personal data. I think that’s perfectly reasonable. Well we both want to use it and hope it works. But I can't understand this about personal data, it stores so very little and what it does store cannot identify individuals. I just think there's far too much concern over nothing. As a society we hand over personal data all the time, loads of it by the bucket load and none of us bat an eyelid.Double standards here. Of course everyone wants it to work. However you are praising a government that has been incompetent throughout all of this,and probably as the only moderator left on here you removed my post for the contrary. I think you've spent too much time digging up England at football,getting so nationalistic that you thin k that is the norm. You have deleted posts as they dont follow your flag waving,nationalistic shite.I gave up on flag waving shite after France 98. So many racist cnuts about it was incredible
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 08:27:43 pmQuote from: drfchound on May 28, 2020, 08:15:57 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 08:14:00 pmQuote from: drfchound on May 28, 2020, 06:49:41 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on May 28, 2020, 04:05:23 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 02:59:07 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 28, 2020, 02:56:43 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 02:45:35 pmI wasn't guessing, I was asking. I'm pretty sure Private Eye said she's a shareholder but I'm not sure which issue it was in.And T&T shouldn't have been withheld or rushed in. it should have been in place at the same time other countries managed to have it up and running.But being a shareholder normally means someone is investing in the company, not taking out 'loads of dosh' as you put it. I have no idea if she has invested in the company, but would it be such a crime if she had? Without some proof it seems that there's a rush to be unduly critical before even contemplating checking basic details.She'd be benefitting from the profits the company will make as a result. Do you not see that as a direct conflict of interest - especially when as far as I know there's been no public tender? And when a working version could I'm sure have been bought off-the-peg from whoever created those used by other countries. According to full facts she's not his sister.... https://fullfact.org/online/not-dominic-cummings-sister/Bump.Gone quiet about this now lads.Just like you went quiet when challenged to show what posts of yours you accused me of editing?I've only just seen this and am quite happy to put my hands up and admit I was wrong.Your turn to do the same now.Glyn, we both know.I don't. I have absolutely no idea where you got that ridiculous idea from. Show me or apologise."Bump.Gone quiet about this now lads."
Quote from: drfchound on May 28, 2020, 08:15:57 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 08:14:00 pmQuote from: drfchound on May 28, 2020, 06:49:41 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on May 28, 2020, 04:05:23 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 02:59:07 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 28, 2020, 02:56:43 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 02:45:35 pmI wasn't guessing, I was asking. I'm pretty sure Private Eye said she's a shareholder but I'm not sure which issue it was in.And T&T shouldn't have been withheld or rushed in. it should have been in place at the same time other countries managed to have it up and running.But being a shareholder normally means someone is investing in the company, not taking out 'loads of dosh' as you put it. I have no idea if she has invested in the company, but would it be such a crime if she had? Without some proof it seems that there's a rush to be unduly critical before even contemplating checking basic details.She'd be benefitting from the profits the company will make as a result. Do you not see that as a direct conflict of interest - especially when as far as I know there's been no public tender? And when a working version could I'm sure have been bought off-the-peg from whoever created those used by other countries. According to full facts she's not his sister.... https://fullfact.org/online/not-dominic-cummings-sister/Bump.Gone quiet about this now lads.Just like you went quiet when challenged to show what posts of yours you accused me of editing?I've only just seen this and am quite happy to put my hands up and admit I was wrong.Your turn to do the same now.Glyn, we both know.I don't. I have absolutely no idea where you got that ridiculous idea from. Show me or apologise.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 08:14:00 pmQuote from: drfchound on May 28, 2020, 06:49:41 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on May 28, 2020, 04:05:23 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 02:59:07 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 28, 2020, 02:56:43 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 02:45:35 pmI wasn't guessing, I was asking. I'm pretty sure Private Eye said she's a shareholder but I'm not sure which issue it was in.And T&T shouldn't have been withheld or rushed in. it should have been in place at the same time other countries managed to have it up and running.But being a shareholder normally means someone is investing in the company, not taking out 'loads of dosh' as you put it. I have no idea if she has invested in the company, but would it be such a crime if she had? Without some proof it seems that there's a rush to be unduly critical before even contemplating checking basic details.She'd be benefitting from the profits the company will make as a result. Do you not see that as a direct conflict of interest - especially when as far as I know there's been no public tender? And when a working version could I'm sure have been bought off-the-peg from whoever created those used by other countries. According to full facts she's not his sister.... https://fullfact.org/online/not-dominic-cummings-sister/Bump.Gone quiet about this now lads.Just like you went quiet when challenged to show what posts of yours you accused me of editing?I've only just seen this and am quite happy to put my hands up and admit I was wrong.Your turn to do the same now.Glyn, we both know.
Quote from: drfchound on May 28, 2020, 06:49:41 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on May 28, 2020, 04:05:23 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 02:59:07 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 28, 2020, 02:56:43 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 02:45:35 pmI wasn't guessing, I was asking. I'm pretty sure Private Eye said she's a shareholder but I'm not sure which issue it was in.And T&T shouldn't have been withheld or rushed in. it should have been in place at the same time other countries managed to have it up and running.But being a shareholder normally means someone is investing in the company, not taking out 'loads of dosh' as you put it. I have no idea if she has invested in the company, but would it be such a crime if she had? Without some proof it seems that there's a rush to be unduly critical before even contemplating checking basic details.She'd be benefitting from the profits the company will make as a result. Do you not see that as a direct conflict of interest - especially when as far as I know there's been no public tender? And when a working version could I'm sure have been bought off-the-peg from whoever created those used by other countries. According to full facts she's not his sister.... https://fullfact.org/online/not-dominic-cummings-sister/Bump.Gone quiet about this now lads.Just like you went quiet when challenged to show what posts of yours you accused me of editing?I've only just seen this and am quite happy to put my hands up and admit I was wrong.Your turn to do the same now.
Quote from: Not Now Kato on May 28, 2020, 04:05:23 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 02:59:07 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 28, 2020, 02:56:43 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 02:45:35 pmI wasn't guessing, I was asking. I'm pretty sure Private Eye said she's a shareholder but I'm not sure which issue it was in.And T&T shouldn't have been withheld or rushed in. it should have been in place at the same time other countries managed to have it up and running.But being a shareholder normally means someone is investing in the company, not taking out 'loads of dosh' as you put it. I have no idea if she has invested in the company, but would it be such a crime if she had? Without some proof it seems that there's a rush to be unduly critical before even contemplating checking basic details.She'd be benefitting from the profits the company will make as a result. Do you not see that as a direct conflict of interest - especially when as far as I know there's been no public tender? And when a working version could I'm sure have been bought off-the-peg from whoever created those used by other countries. According to full facts she's not his sister.... https://fullfact.org/online/not-dominic-cummings-sister/Bump.Gone quiet about this now lads.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 02:59:07 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 28, 2020, 02:56:43 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 02:45:35 pmI wasn't guessing, I was asking. I'm pretty sure Private Eye said she's a shareholder but I'm not sure which issue it was in.And T&T shouldn't have been withheld or rushed in. it should have been in place at the same time other countries managed to have it up and running.But being a shareholder normally means someone is investing in the company, not taking out 'loads of dosh' as you put it. I have no idea if she has invested in the company, but would it be such a crime if she had? Without some proof it seems that there's a rush to be unduly critical before even contemplating checking basic details.She'd be benefitting from the profits the company will make as a result. Do you not see that as a direct conflict of interest - especially when as far as I know there's been no public tender? And when a working version could I'm sure have been bought off-the-peg from whoever created those used by other countries. According to full facts she's not his sister.... https://fullfact.org/online/not-dominic-cummings-sister/
Quote from: silent majority on May 28, 2020, 02:56:43 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 02:45:35 pmI wasn't guessing, I was asking. I'm pretty sure Private Eye said she's a shareholder but I'm not sure which issue it was in.And T&T shouldn't have been withheld or rushed in. it should have been in place at the same time other countries managed to have it up and running.But being a shareholder normally means someone is investing in the company, not taking out 'loads of dosh' as you put it. I have no idea if she has invested in the company, but would it be such a crime if she had? Without some proof it seems that there's a rush to be unduly critical before even contemplating checking basic details.She'd be benefitting from the profits the company will make as a result. Do you not see that as a direct conflict of interest - especially when as far as I know there's been no public tender? And when a working version could I'm sure have been bought off-the-peg from whoever created those used by other countries.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 02:45:35 pmI wasn't guessing, I was asking. I'm pretty sure Private Eye said she's a shareholder but I'm not sure which issue it was in.And T&T shouldn't have been withheld or rushed in. it should have been in place at the same time other countries managed to have it up and running.But being a shareholder normally means someone is investing in the company, not taking out 'loads of dosh' as you put it. I have no idea if she has invested in the company, but would it be such a crime if she had? Without some proof it seems that there's a rush to be unduly critical before even contemplating checking basic details.
I wasn't guessing, I was asking. I'm pretty sure Private Eye said she's a shareholder but I'm not sure which issue it was in.And T&T shouldn't have been withheld or rushed in. it should have been in place at the same time other countries managed to have it up and running.
Quote from: Iberian Red on May 29, 2020, 04:18:42 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 29, 2020, 11:34:01 amQuote from: Jonathan on May 28, 2020, 10:28:30 pmI want the app to work and I want to be able to use it. I’d like to think there’ll be some independent assurances around the storage and processing of personal data. I think that’s perfectly reasonable. Well we both want to use it and hope it works. But I can't understand this about personal data, it stores so very little and what it does store cannot identify individuals. I just think there's far too much concern over nothing. As a society we hand over personal data all the time, loads of it by the bucket load and none of us bat an eyelid.Double standards here. Of course everyone wants it to work. However you are praising a government that has been incompetent throughout all of this,and probably as the only moderator left on here you removed my post for the contrary. I think you've spent too much time digging up England at football,getting so nationalistic that you thin k that is the norm. You have deleted posts as they dont follow your flag waving,nationalistic shite.I gave up on flag waving shite after France 98. So many racist cnuts about it was incredibleWhat absolute tosh!You don't know my political leanings at all, and if you can find a post from me that praises this government then go ahead prove me wrong!And I'm certainly not the only moderator left on here, whatever gave you that impression? Yes I did delete your post, and I did it for two reasons, one, I quite explicitly said that political posts on that thread would be deleted and the 2nd point was you accused me of posting pro-government posts which I quite clearly have never done.But take a cheap shot by labelling all England football fans racists and throwing me in that mix, you could never be further from the truth. And I'm nowhere as near at being nationalistic, flag waver as you make out. Your post are following a trend, total hogwash!But please, prove me wrong, provide me with some proof of my pro-government, flag waving, nationalistic and, possibly, racist comments.
Quote from: silent majority on May 29, 2020, 04:55:58 pmQuote from: Iberian Red on May 29, 2020, 04:18:42 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 29, 2020, 11:34:01 amQuote from: Jonathan on May 28, 2020, 10:28:30 pmI want the app to work and I want to be able to use it. I’d like to think there’ll be some independent assurances around the storage and processing of personal data. I think that’s perfectly reasonable. Well we both want to use it and hope it works. But I can't understand this about personal data, it stores so very little and what it does store cannot identify individuals. I just think there's far too much concern over nothing. As a society we hand over personal data all the time, loads of it by the bucket load and none of us bat an eyelid.Double standards here. Of course everyone wants it to work. However you are praising a government that has been incompetent throughout all of this,and probably as the only moderator left on here you removed my post for the contrary. I think you've spent too much time digging up England at football,getting so nationalistic that you thin k that is the norm. You have deleted posts as they dont follow your flag waving,nationalistic shite.I gave up on flag waving shite after France 98. So many racist cnuts about it was incredibleWhat absolute tosh!You don't know my political leanings at all, and if you can find a post from me that praises this government then go ahead prove me wrong!And I'm certainly not the only moderator left on here, whatever gave you that impression? Yes I did delete your post, and I did it for two reasons, one, I quite explicitly said that political posts on that thread would be deleted and the 2nd point was you accused me of posting pro-government posts which I quite clearly have never done.But take a cheap shot by labelling all England football fans racists and throwing me in that mix, you could never be further from the truth. And I'm nowhere as near at being nationalistic, flag waver as you make out. Your post are following a trend, total hogwash!But please, prove me wrong, provide me with some proof of my pro-government, flag waving, nationalistic and, possibly, racist comments.Well said Martin.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 29, 2020, 10:46:34 amQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 08:27:43 pmQuote from: drfchound on May 28, 2020, 08:15:57 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 08:14:00 pmQuote from: drfchound on May 28, 2020, 06:49:41 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on May 28, 2020, 04:05:23 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 02:59:07 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 28, 2020, 02:56:43 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 02:45:35 pmI wasn't guessing, I was asking. I'm pretty sure Private Eye said she's a shareholder but I'm not sure which issue it was in.And T&T shouldn't have been withheld or rushed in. it should have been in place at the same time other countries managed to have it up and running.But being a shareholder normally means someone is investing in the company, not taking out 'loads of dosh' as you put it. I have no idea if she has invested in the company, but would it be such a crime if she had? Without some proof it seems that there's a rush to be unduly critical before even contemplating checking basic details.She'd be benefitting from the profits the company will make as a result. Do you not see that as a direct conflict of interest - especially when as far as I know there's been no public tender? And when a working version could I'm sure have been bought off-the-peg from whoever created those used by other countries. According to full facts she's not his sister.... https://fullfact.org/online/not-dominic-cummings-sister/Bump.Gone quiet about this now lads.Just like you went quiet when challenged to show what posts of yours you accused me of editing?I've only just seen this and am quite happy to put my hands up and admit I was wrong.Your turn to do the same now.Glyn, we both know.I don't. I have absolutely no idea where you got that ridiculous idea from. Show me or apologise."Bump.Gone quiet about this now lads."I’m back.I was going to reply at lunchtime and had made a comment on the post that began this to make things easier for you, ( it says 29/05/20....it begins here GW), but I got a call which required me to go and do a repair job at one of the renters and also meant me missing my lunch.Don’t worry though, it was local and was an outside job.I got back an hour ago and after catching up with some food I can now help you out.Look on the Coronavirus thread, post number 4144.The quote of mine that you used was “You haven’t answered the question I put to you.Nice deflection attempt”.That was because you didn’t fully answer what I had asked.Further down the thread, post 4147, you quote my post but only the “nice deflection” bit and it has been added to a post which includes offerings from Filo.You then asked me “from what”.My “nice deflection” words were in a different context and place to where I had originally written it.I was puzzled as to why it was there.I suggested that you had done some clever editing and to be honest I don’t know how it was done.There were some posts exchanged between us and in post 4156 in response to one of your abusive lines I wrote “yeah right”.You couldn’t resist taunting me so in post 4158 you changed my “yeah right” words to “yeah YOU’RE right” and made it appear that I had written it.You even said “now that is how to edit a post”. In post 4159 I thanked you for proving my point.So to sum up, it appears that you edited the words in one of my posts and carefully (somehow) rearranged another post and left out part of what I said.I hope this helps.
Maybe it was cummings?
Quote from: drfchound on May 29, 2020, 07:55:21 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 29, 2020, 10:46:34 amQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 08:27:43 pmQuote from: drfchound on May 28, 2020, 08:15:57 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 08:14:00 pmQuote from: drfchound on May 28, 2020, 06:49:41 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on May 28, 2020, 04:05:23 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 02:59:07 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 28, 2020, 02:56:43 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 02:45:35 pmI wasn't guessing, I was asking. I'm pretty sure Private Eye said she's a shareholder but I'm not sure which issue it was in.And T&T shouldn't have been withheld or rushed in. it should have been in place at the same time other countries managed to have it up and running.But being a shareholder normally means someone is investing in the company, not taking out 'loads of dosh' as you put it. I have no idea if she has invested in the company, but would it be such a crime if she had? Without some proof it seems that there's a rush to be unduly critical before even contemplating checking basic details.She'd be benefitting from the profits the company will make as a result. Do you not see that as a direct conflict of interest - especially when as far as I know there's been no public tender? And when a working version could I'm sure have been bought off-the-peg from whoever created those used by other countries. According to full facts she's not his sister.... https://fullfact.org/online/not-dominic-cummings-sister/Bump.Gone quiet about this now lads.Just like you went quiet when challenged to show what posts of yours you accused me of editing?I've only just seen this and am quite happy to put my hands up and admit I was wrong.Your turn to do the same now.Glyn, we both know.I don't. I have absolutely no idea where you got that ridiculous idea from. Show me or apologise."Bump.Gone quiet about this now lads."I’m back.I was going to reply at lunchtime and had made a comment on the post that began this to make things easier for you, ( it says 29/05/20....it begins here GW), but I got a call which required me to go and do a repair job at one of the renters and also meant me missing my lunch.Don’t worry though, it was local and was an outside job.I got back an hour ago and after catching up with some food I can now help you out.Look on the Coronavirus thread, post number 4144.The quote of mine that you used was “You haven’t answered the question I put to you.Nice deflection attempt”.That was because you didn’t fully answer what I had asked.Further down the thread, post 4147, you quote my post but only the “nice deflection” bit and it has been added to a post which includes offerings from Filo.You then asked me “from what”.My “nice deflection” words were in a different context and place to where I had originally written it.I was puzzled as to why it was there.I suggested that you had done some clever editing and to be honest I don’t know how it was done.There were some posts exchanged between us and in post 4156 in response to one of your abusive lines I wrote “yeah right”.You couldn’t resist taunting me so in post 4158 you changed my “yeah right” words to “yeah YOU’RE right” and made it appear that I had written it.You even said “now that is how to edit a post”. In post 4159 I thanked you for proving my point.So to sum up, it appears that you edited the words in one of my posts and carefully (somehow) rearranged another post and left out part of what I said.I hope this helps.The 'nice deflection attempt was in a post you made at 01:38:52 that I was replying to - I can't create posts that I'm replying to...but now that post has mysteriously disappeared, like someone has deleted it after I quoted it. I looks like you deleted it after you wrote it because you realised you'd replied to the wrong post, but that it was deleted after I'd started to reply to your post so it was quoted because it was still there at the time. It also explains why I had no idea what the hell you were talking about.But that begs the question as to why you deliberately edited post 4144 yesterday when there was absolutely no need to. It almost looks like someone has been tampering with the evidence and wanted to cover it.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 30, 2020, 11:11:52 amQuote from: drfchound on May 29, 2020, 07:55:21 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 29, 2020, 10:46:34 amQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 08:27:43 pmQuote from: drfchound on May 28, 2020, 08:15:57 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 08:14:00 pmQuote from: drfchound on May 28, 2020, 06:49:41 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on May 28, 2020, 04:05:23 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 02:59:07 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 28, 2020, 02:56:43 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 02:45:35 pmI wasn't guessing, I was asking. I'm pretty sure Private Eye said she's a shareholder but I'm not sure which issue it was in.And T&T shouldn't have been withheld or rushed in. it should have been in place at the same time other countries managed to have it up and running.But being a shareholder normally means someone is investing in the company, not taking out 'loads of dosh' as you put it. I have no idea if she has invested in the company, but would it be such a crime if she had? Without some proof it seems that there's a rush to be unduly critical before even contemplating checking basic details.She'd be benefitting from the profits the company will make as a result. Do you not see that as a direct conflict of interest - especially when as far as I know there's been no public tender? And when a working version could I'm sure have been bought off-the-peg from whoever created those used by other countries. According to full facts she's not his sister.... https://fullfact.org/online/not-dominic-cummings-sister/Bump.Gone quiet about this now lads.Just like you went quiet when challenged to show what posts of yours you accused me of editing?I've only just seen this and am quite happy to put my hands up and admit I was wrong.Your turn to do the same now.Glyn, we both know.I don't. I have absolutely no idea where you got that ridiculous idea from. Show me or apologise."Bump.Gone quiet about this now lads."I’m back.I was going to reply at lunchtime and had made a comment on the post that began this to make things easier for you, ( it says 29/05/20....it begins here GW), but I got a call which required me to go and do a repair job at one of the renters and also meant me missing my lunch.Don’t worry though, it was local and was an outside job.I got back an hour ago and after catching up with some food I can now help you out.Look on the Coronavirus thread, post number 4144.The quote of mine that you used was “You haven’t answered the question I put to you.Nice deflection attempt”.That was because you didn’t fully answer what I had asked.Further down the thread, post 4147, you quote my post but only the “nice deflection” bit and it has been added to a post which includes offerings from Filo.You then asked me “from what”.My “nice deflection” words were in a different context and place to where I had originally written it.I was puzzled as to why it was there.I suggested that you had done some clever editing and to be honest I don’t know how it was done.There were some posts exchanged between us and in post 4156 in response to one of your abusive lines I wrote “yeah right”.You couldn’t resist taunting me so in post 4158 you changed my “yeah right” words to “yeah YOU’RE right” and made it appear that I had written it.You even said “now that is how to edit a post”. In post 4159 I thanked you for proving my point.So to sum up, it appears that you edited the words in one of my posts and carefully (somehow) rearranged another post and left out part of what I said.I hope this helps.The 'nice deflection attempt was in a post you made at 01:38:52 that I was replying to - I can't create posts that I'm replying to...but now that post has mysteriously disappeared, like someone has deleted it after I quoted it. I looks like you deleted it after you wrote it because you realised you'd replied to the wrong post, but that it was deleted after I'd started to reply to your post so it was quoted because it was still there at the time. It also explains why I had no idea what the hell you were talking about.But that begs the question as to why you deliberately edited post 4144 yesterday when there was absolutely no need to. It almost looks like someone has been tampering with the evidence and wanted to cover it.But you can create posts that you are replying to.....you proved it by changing “yeah right” to “yeah you’re right”.Creative editing.
The issue with T+T is who owns the data, and whether it is secure from re-use by third parties.Do you have the right to determine the level of security that applies to your information, and can you retain the right to access and delete?There is an outline summary of concerns here;https://www.wired.co.uk/article/coronavirus-track-and-trace-nhs-trustA further concern is compliance with GDPR.
I’m lost with all the quotes in quotes in quotes.. time to drop it.?
Quote from: drfchound on May 30, 2020, 12:28:58 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 30, 2020, 11:11:52 amQuote from: drfchound on May 29, 2020, 07:55:21 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 29, 2020, 10:46:34 amQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 08:27:43 pmQuote from: drfchound on May 28, 2020, 08:15:57 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 08:14:00 pmQuote from: drfchound on May 28, 2020, 06:49:41 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on May 28, 2020, 04:05:23 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 02:59:07 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 28, 2020, 02:56:43 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 28, 2020, 02:45:35 pmI wasn't guessing, I was asking. I'm pretty sure Private Eye said she's a shareholder but I'm not sure which issue it was in.And T&T shouldn't have been withheld or rushed in. it should have been in place at the same time other countries managed to have it up and running.But being a shareholder normally means someone is investing in the company, not taking out 'loads of dosh' as you put it. I have no idea if she has invested in the company, but would it be such a crime if she had? Without some proof it seems that there's a rush to be unduly critical before even contemplating checking basic details.She'd be benefitting from the profits the company will make as a result. Do you not see that as a direct conflict of interest - especially when as far as I know there's been no public tender? And when a working version could I'm sure have been bought off-the-peg from whoever created those used by other countries. According to full facts she's not his sister.... https://fullfact.org/online/not-dominic-cummings-sister/Bump.Gone quiet about this now lads.Just like you went quiet when challenged to show what posts of yours you accused me of editing?I've only just seen this and am quite happy to put my hands up and admit I was wrong.Your turn to do the same now.Glyn, we both know.I don't. I have absolutely no idea where you got that ridiculous idea from. Show me or apologise."Bump.Gone quiet about this now lads."I’m back.I was going to reply at lunchtime and had made a comment on the post that began this to make things easier for you, ( it says 29/05/20....it begins here GW), but I got a call which required me to go and do a repair job at one of the renters and also meant me missing my lunch.Don’t worry though, it was local and was an outside job.I got back an hour ago and after catching up with some food I can now help you out.Look on the Coronavirus thread, post number 4144.The quote of mine that you used was “You haven’t answered the question I put to you.Nice deflection attempt”.That was because you didn’t fully answer what I had asked.Further down the thread, post 4147, you quote my post but only the “nice deflection” bit and it has been added to a post which includes offerings from Filo.You then asked me “from what”.My “nice deflection” words were in a different context and place to where I had originally written it.I was puzzled as to why it was there.I suggested that you had done some clever editing and to be honest I don’t know how it was done.There were some posts exchanged between us and in post 4156 in response to one of your abusive lines I wrote “yeah right”.You couldn’t resist taunting me so in post 4158 you changed my “yeah right” words to “yeah YOU’RE right” and made it appear that I had written it.You even said “now that is how to edit a post”. In post 4159 I thanked you for proving my point.So to sum up, it appears that you edited the words in one of my posts and carefully (somehow) rearranged another post and left out part of what I said.I hope this helps.The 'nice deflection attempt was in a post you made at 01:38:52 that I was replying to - I can't create posts that I'm replying to...but now that post has mysteriously disappeared, like someone has deleted it after I quoted it. I looks like you deleted it after you wrote it because you realised you'd replied to the wrong post, but that it was deleted after I'd started to reply to your post so it was quoted because it was still there at the time. It also explains why I had no idea what the hell you were talking about.But that begs the question as to why you deliberately edited post 4144 yesterday when there was absolutely no need to. It almost looks like someone has been tampering with the evidence and wanted to cover it.But you can create posts that you are replying to.....you proved it by changing “yeah right” to “yeah you’re right”.Creative editing.That was an edit to a post, to demonstrate what you were accusing me of - and what had not happened in any way, and not what you are now accusing me of having done.I didn't create a post out of nothing that I then replied to, because I can't do that. Are you saying that you're able to do that when I can't?
Quote from: albie on May 30, 2020, 12:58:39 pmThe issue with T+T is who owns the data, and whether it is secure from re-use by third parties.Do you have the right to determine the level of security that applies to your information, and can you retain the right to access and delete?There is an outline summary of concerns here;https://www.wired.co.uk/article/coronavirus-track-and-trace-nhs-trustA further concern is compliance with GDPR. There is no personal data stored by the system - see my post earlier in the thread for how it works.
This is a bit scary''Why I quit working on Boris Johnson's ‘world-beating' test-and-tracing system''https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/30/boris-johnsons-test-and-tracing-system-britain-lockdown
Won't be needed anymore? Ah, so this is the last epidemic we'll ever have! Thank f**k for that.