Brexit - how is it going?

[wilts rover]

Britons think Brexit is going badly, and it's an opinion more people have come to as the year has gone on

Going well: 18% (-7)
Going badly: 53% (+15)
Neither: 21% (-4)

Changes from Jun 21, 2021

https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1443245359749373962

[SydneyRover]

Britons think Brexit is going badly, and it's an opinion more people have come to as the year has gone on

Going well: 18% (-7)
Going badly: 53% (+15)
Neither: 21% (-4)

Changes from Jun 21, 2021

https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1443245359749373962

It would be an interesting conversation with those thinking it's going well ............... down at the bullingdon club

[Metalmicky]

The poles are revolting.....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58955375

[Herbert Anchovy]

The poles are revolting.....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58955375

Aren’t the Poles the largest net beneficiary of EU membership or something?

[Glyn_Wigley]

The poles are revolting.....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58955375

It says the majority of Poles overwhelmingly support membership of the EU.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Of course it doesn't matter what most poles think the government has the power to act as they wish.

Again we see questions of the EU and not many answers. I'm sure as usual we'll be told the concerns of a country are irrelevant.

[Metalmicky]

The poles are revolting.....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58955375

It says the majority of Poles overwhelmingly support membership of the EU.

"Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki has accused the EU of blackmail in a heated debate with European Commission chief Ursula von der Leyen over the rule of law"

[Glyn_Wigley]

The poles are revolting.....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58955375

It says the majority of Poles overwhelmingly support membership of the EU.

"Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki has accused the EU of blackmail in a heated debate with European Commission chief Ursula von der Leyen over the rule of law"

Well, that's one of them so far.

[normal rules]

I always thought Italy would be next to leave the dictatorship. Perhaps Poland will prove me wrong.
Time will tell.

[normal rules]

One day, we will look back on euro politics, not as brexit, but as eurexit. As country by country will leave and the unelected, undemocratic dictators in Brussels will be shown the door.

[SydneyRover]

One day, we will look back on euro politics, not as brexit, but as eurexit. As country by country will leave and the unelected, undemocratic dictators in Brussels will be shown the door.

And you'll be able to cheer on your grandkids in the European ethnic and territorial wars that will start up again.

[BillyStubbsTears]

One day, we will look back on euro politics, not as brexit, but as eurexit. As country by country will leave and the unelected, undemocratic dictators in Brussels will be shown the door.

And you'll be able to cheer on your grandkids in the European ethnic and territorial wars that will start up again.

How quickly we forget.

For two thousand years up to 1945, on average an army crossed the Rhine to do battle every 37 years.

Does anyone think the human race has changed in the past century.

This was the fundamental reason that the EU was founded. And we have millions of people in this country actively willing it to fail. Like history never happened.

[Ldr]

And then NATO was formed………..

[KeithMyath]

Well since we have done such a Sterling job of leaving and with all the benefits now racking up . I mean, who wouldn’t want to leave the EU?…….

[BillyStubbsTears]

And then NATO was formed………..

Ah yes. NATO.

That'll be the NATO that didn't prevent fascist dictatorships in Greece, Portugal and Spain.

Or is it the NATO that didn't prevent 200,000 deaths in the France-Algeria war? Or 3000 deaths in a civil war in the UK?

That NATO?

[Ldr]

For two thousand years up to 1945, on average an army crossed the Rhine to do battle every 37 years.

Hasn’t happened since NATO formed.

[BillyStubbsTears]

That was an example of the warlike history of Europe. Yes, that specific one hasn't happened. But other conflicts started in and around NATO countries, killing thousands.

But no conflict has ever started in an EU country after joining the EU. Several did in NATO countries.

No country has ever lost democracy after joining the EU. Several have in NATO.

I'm not denying the effect of NATO in uniting Europe. But Brexiters seem determined to deny the effect of the EU in drawing together countries that have killed millions of each other throughout history. And worse than that, to delight in the possibility that the EU might collapse.

[normal rules]

We don’t have to go to war In Europe when we have govts willing to send our troops all over the world sorting out other peoples shit.

[SydneyRover]

Those that take a position to dance on the grave of the EU as they see it may want to think of the future, Britain may within a relatively shortish period of time could be knocking on the door asking if there are any vacancies.

[Axholme Lion]

Those that take a position to dance on the grave of the EU as they see it may want to think of the future, Britain may within a relatively shortish period of time could be knocking on the door asking if there are any vacancies.

I don't think so. In another twenty years the EU will not exist.

[normal rules]

If anything von de shithoise will be knocking on our door asking for help when the Eu dads army get sent into battle in Ukraine.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Those that take a position to dance on the grave of the EU as they see it may want to think of the future, Britain may within a relatively shortish period of time could be knocking on the door asking if there are any vacancies.

I don't think so. In another twenty years the EU will not exist.

Odd. That's what I heard twenty years ago.

[normal rules]

Those that take a position to dance on the grave of the EU as they see it may want to think of the future, Britain may within a relatively shortish period of time could be knocking on the door asking if there are any vacancies.

I don't think so. In another twenty years the EU will not exist.

Odd. That's what I heard twenty years ago.

If some one had said to you twenty years ago that the uk would leave the Eu, what would you have said ?

[selby]

  It came into being in 1993 with the introduction of the Maastricht treaty, we didn't have a say, one of the most undemocratic decisions made by any government.
  Some people still thought we were in the Common market twenty years ago, John Major has a lot to answer for ever taking us into what it has and is going to become.
 or as the old song goes "there maybe trouble ahead".

[BillyStubbsTears]

Strange that those who are so excited about Poland's leaders threatening to leave the EU are also the ones who claim to be guardians of national sovereignty and democracy. This is the result of the polls in Poland about EU membership.

Blue=Remain
Red=Leave


Makes you eonde what game the Polish right wing leaders are playing...

[Axholme Lion]

Strange that those who are so excited about Poland's leaders threatening to leave the EU are also the ones who claim to be guardians of national sovereignty and democracy. This is the result of the polls in Poland about EU membership.

Blue=Remain
Red=Leave


Makes you eonde what game the Polish right wing leaders are playing...

The Poles want to stay in it because they are screwing a load of wedge out of the EU but they don't like the left wing rules. We didn't like the rules but were paying for it all.

[selby]

  Wait while they have to chip in instead of being on a good thing and having someone else's money chucked at them.

[SydneyRover]

  Wait while they have to chip in instead of being on a good thing and having someone else's money chucked at them.

whereas johnson & co are trying to send the UK broke and we'll get nothing, aye selby?

[Ldr]

Strange that those who are so excited about Poland's leaders threatening to leave the EU are also the ones who claim to be guardians of national sovereignty and democracy. This is the result of the polls in Poland about EU membership.

Blue=Remain
Red=Leave


Makes you eonde what game the Polish right wing leaders are playing...

Create division Billy, standard popularise regime activity

[normal rules]

David Cameron gave  some of the public what they wanted. A referendum.
No where in his wildest nightmares  though did he expect it to go the way it did.
He would have had advice from pollsters. Experts in public feeling and the mood of the nation.
They got it so so wrong.
Who is to say that graph in Poland bears any resemblance to reality.
Time will tell.