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Is he wrong to say we've got to try and make the best of the shambles we've been left with?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55997641.ampUnderstatement of the Decade.."I actually think it was not thought out."
Glynn - were you telling everyone that Brexit would increase exporters costs by 0.17%? Or does the article when placed against actual facts expose your position as what it really is - unthinking hyperbolic nonsense?
BrantonThe full hit of Brexit regulations only started last month. Those costs are, I assume, what they have racked up already.As for them being mean, nasty capitalists, that is neither here nor there. The trade costs wouldn't vanish if they were nice socialists.
Glyn £10m is only 0.17% of JD's total annual costs of £6bn (all its costs - cost of goods, employment, etc etc)That's a fact.Do you think they'll change their company policies based on this tiny cost increase?Really?!
Stop calling your disciples up.
Glynn - no of course not.But it was in response to the numbers for this particular company that you said 'I was telling anyone who would listen what would happen even before the referendum took place. It's not a surprise to anyone who understands it.'Having clearly read the article without considering putting those numbers into context. Clearly showing in this case a lack of understanding - sorry.Even if an exporter suffers relative costs twice or three times this amount - it's really not going make a significant difference to how they operate is it? 0.17% of total costs is tiny.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on February 16, 2022, 08:18:47 pm BrantonThe full hit of Brexit regulations only started last month. Those costs are, I assume, what they have racked up already.As for them being mean, nasty capitalists, that is neither here nor there. The trade costs wouldn't vanish if they were nice socialists.No he'll be talking the annual cost.And your lovely Mr Cowgill only gave his interview last week. Ample time for him to assess (and given his form exaggerate) his numbers based on the new regulations.Do you think it likely these costs will increase beyond 0.17% (or a similarly low %) of their cost base to something that may actually be significant and lead to a change in company practices then? Why?
Quote from: selby on February 16, 2022, 04:46:39 pm Stop calling your disciples up.This from your own people ''Why the panic among Boris Johnson’s allies? Because they know Brexit is unravelling''Michael Heseltinehttps://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/16/panic-boris-johnson-allies-brexit-unravelling-michael-heseltine
No you were responding to the article - quite obviously you were. Just admit you were wrong."A man with a conviction is a hard man to change.Tell him you disagree and he turns away.Show him facts or figures and he questions your sources.Appeal to logic and he fails to see your point."In answer to your question: -"Peter Cowgill, chairman of JD Sports, said the red tape and delays in shipping goods to mainland Europe meant "double-digit millions" in extra costs."He's clearly talking here of extra costs to JD.
Quote from: SydneyRover on February 16, 2022, 08:36:48 pmQuote from: selby on February 16, 2022, 04:46:39 pm Stop calling your disciples up.This from your own people ''Why the panic among Boris Johnson’s allies? Because they know Brexit is unravelling''Michael Heseltinehttps://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/16/panic-boris-johnson-allies-brexit-unravelling-michael-heseltineSelby's own people? Heseltine has been the biggest Europhile in the HOC for donkey's years.Nobody in the Tory Party listens to him.
Quote from: Branton Red on February 16, 2022, 08:53:36 pmNo you were responding to the article - quite obviously you were. Just admit you were wrong."A man with a conviction is a hard man to change.Tell him you disagree and he turns away.Show him facts or figures and he questions your sources.Appeal to logic and he fails to see your point."In answer to your question: -"Peter Cowgill, chairman of JD Sports, said the red tape and delays in shipping goods to mainland Europe meant "double-digit millions" in extra costs."He's clearly talking here of extra costs to JD.And he was confirming the same extra costs that everybody else is facing. Which is what I have said all along.
Quote from: scawsby steve on February 16, 2022, 08:52:52 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on February 16, 2022, 08:36:48 pmQuote from: selby on February 16, 2022, 04:46:39 pm Stop calling your disciples up.This from your own people ''Why the panic among Boris Johnson’s allies? Because they know Brexit is unravelling''Michael Heseltinehttps://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/16/panic-boris-johnson-allies-brexit-unravelling-michael-heseltineSelby's own people? Heseltine has been the biggest Europhile in the HOC for donkey's years.Nobody in the Tory Party listens to him.he's a tory SS, people listened to johnson, non tories listened to johnson, go figure
Where's your evidence that he's talking about annual costs? No-one knows if the costs will reduce as initial frictions reduce. It makes far more logical sense to assume he's talking about costs already rung up.
Did you read the article Steve? it confirms what remainers have said all along, no one from the exit side has yet said or said and proven any benefit yet, Branton atm is arguing that the cost is small but only last week pud said anyone the thinks brexit will add to inflation is an idiot, is all a bit magic mushrooms brexit benefits aye Steve.