Tories just voted to suppress votes

[bobjimwilly]

The Tories have just voted to mandate photo ID to vote in elections, supposedly to stop voter fraud. Almost 1 in 10 people do not have any form of photo ID, and obviously The stats are higher for marginalised groups.

The actual number of convicted fraudsters each year is in single figures.

This is voter suppression!

Will also reportedly cost over £40 million over next decade.

[SydneyRover]

Very trump-like bjw.

[BillyStubbsTears]

They're learning.

The Republican party has been doing voter suppression for decades. Which is why they "win" so many elections when they are by some way a minority party.

Previous incarnations of the Tory party were above this. But not this lot.

[bpoolrover]

I have to show proof I have been vaccinated to have a pint after one in the morning, so why can't someone prove who they are to vote!

[SydneyRover]

Voting is not contagious bp, and certainly not with the tory party.

[BVB]

I think I can hazard a guess at the constituencies which have highest number of no-photo ID voters, and no it doesn’t include places like Surrey Heath.

But here’s why photo ID is clearly necessary in a voter population of 47-48 million:
https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/who-we-are-and-what-we-do/our-views-and-research/our-research/electoral-fraud-data/2019-electoral-fraud-data

[aidanstu]

The tories have been surprising votes for years; they have done this by segmenting Tory voting areas off of more left leaning areas.

Some might say that this is down to the electoral commission but I can’t think of any examples where a conservative voting area has been incorporated into a traditional labour or other party locality. I’m happy to be corrected.

It’s getting to the point now where I think proportionate representation is required; I know it has its difficulties but it’s got to be better than what we have.

[SydneyRover]

I was wrong BVB, 4 prosecutions for voter fraud following the 2019 election is a pandemic.

[bpoolrover]

Voting is not contagious bp, and certainly not with the tory party.

I have to show proof to travel abroad to drive to get a bank account so why not to vote?

[SydneyRover]

Voting is not contagious bp, and certainly not with the tory party.

I have to show proof to travel abroad to drive to get a bank account so why not to vote?

Because non of the above are contagious bp, are you on the save the mangy dog committee?

It's very simple when you think about it bp, proof of vaccination is to help save lives, proof of ID for voting is to help save the tory party.

[roversdude]

Don’t worry bp I don’t think you’ll need proof to have a drink soon

[selby]

  They need it in Peterborough if nowhere else.

[SydneyRover]

Don’t worry bp I don’t think you’ll need proof to have a drink soon

Unless you're under 18?

[normal rules]

Perhaps the next thing is only being allowed to vote if you are vaccinated?
(Tongue in cheek)

[Axholme Lion]

It's a joke that you can just turn up and give your name and address. About time it was tightened up on.

[DRFCSouth]

Can't see a problem. ID is needed for most aspects of life now.

[Donnywolf]

Would postal voters need Photo id ?

If not a lot of those without Passports Driving License or other Photo id COULD register and vote that way

A generalisation maybe but 33 PC of those who regularly DONT vote in any elections might contain a huge number of the ones without Id (throwing that in with no way of knowing it's status)

[bobbymax]

It's a joke that you can just turn up and give your name and address. About time it was tightened up on.

Only if it was a problem, which it wasn't. Otherwise it's a complete waste of taxpayer's money as well as inconveniencing people who have neither a passport or a driving licence.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Well THAT is a new step in election rigging.

Apparently the Tory Whips have told MPs thinking about sending in letters calling for a confidence vote that if they do, the party will make sure they lose their seat at the next election.

And that gets to the core of the problem. This isn't a Tory Govt. And it's not really a Tory party anymore. The leadership and the membership are part of a Johnson First And Last And Always party.

[normal rules]

Well THAT is a new step in election rigging.

Apparently the Tory Whips have told MPs thinking about sending in letters calling for a confidence vote that if they do, the party will make sure they lose their seat at the next election.

And that gets to the core of the problem. This isn't a Tory Govt. And it's not really a Tory party anymore. The leadership and the membership are part of a Johnson First And Last And Always party.

Bullying ?

[ravenrover]

And they are just a set of f@!king no-bodies. And to think my MP is behind all this Mark f@#king Spencer what a tw@

[SydneyRover]

What happens when renowned LIARS are elected, promoted to high office and their supporters believe what pours out.

''Ros Atkins on... the US Capitol riot anniversary''

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-59903464

[glosterred]

What happens when renowned LIARS are elected, promoted to high office and their supporters believe what pours out.

''Ros Atkins on... the US Capitol riot anniversary''

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-59903464

Do you mean Tony Blair?

[drfchound]

He doesn’t do answers.

[Branton Red]

As a policy to reduce electoral fraud this is a waste of time. The majority of us get personally addressed polling cards to take to the polling stations which identify us. It would be virtually impossible to instigate a voter fraud big enough to swing a constituency/even local council vote based on people visiting polling stations.

The cynical side of me agrees with the OP as the only logical motivation for doing this is to reduce the Labour vote - for the reasons the OP states.

If the Government was really interested in reducing voter fraud they'd be better off looking to reform/reduce postal voting where there may be some issue.

[drfchound]

I do postal voting mate.
TBH if I had to go to a polling station I probably wouldn’t bother.

[Branton Red]

I do postal voting mate.
TBH if I had to go to a polling station I probably wouldn’t bother.

Give certain people your address and they'll come round next election time, give you a few quid and collect your postal vote from you so you don't even have to bother with that either.

[tyke1962]

Well if we are under a government who want to suppress democracy then clearly this works two ways in my opinion .

Given the events over the last couple of months I've absolutely no option but to vote against the Tories .

Which isn't to be confused with a vote for the Labour Party , let me make that perfectly clear .

Anybody who wants to try it on with voter suppression deserves everything that's coming to them .

I'd kindly suggest that the Labour Party and the Dems make sure the Tories disappear from the UK political scene for good and work together to ensure that happens .

It's high time they were put out of business in my opinion and whilst the political choice I'll face doesn't exactly have me in a " a new dawn moment .

It's significantly better than this bunch of corrupt , inept and freeloading  scum .

For fecks sake let's get rid of this entitled Eton mob and their minions for good .

The disturbing thing is Starmer is also a democracy denier and a liar .

But not quite as bad .

Jesus Christ what have we become ?

[drfchound]

I do postal voting mate.
TBH if I had to go to a polling station I probably wouldn’t bother.

Give certain people your address and they'll come round next election time, give you a few quid and collect your postal vote from you so you don't even have to bother with that either.

It hasn’t happened to me yet and I have been postal voting for many years.

[BillyStubbsTears]

In the whole of 2017, in the general election, local council elections and devolved Govt elections, there was a grand total of 16 instances of alleged postal vote fraud.

Which right wing papers do you occasionally look at Branton?