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Quote from: Ldr on November 27, 2021, 11:32:18 pmYou don’t half come out with random examples. Put simply, I don’t wish you any harm but couldn’t really care less if it happened. I have no responsibility for you as you have none for me. Anything otherwise is nothing but a massive guilt trip Nice attitude
You don’t half come out with random examples. Put simply, I don’t wish you any harm but couldn’t really care less if it happened. I have no responsibility for you as you have none for me. Anything otherwise is nothing but a massive guilt trip
Because I do not believe in collective responsibility
Let me ask another question.That scene in Trainspotting where Begbie hoys the pint pot over his shoulder and over the balcony into the crowded bar. You agree that was a wrong thing to do?If so, why was he wrong to do it? Surely he doesn't have responsibility for how his actions affect the wider community?Surely it's the responsibility of the other drinkers to watch out for falling glassware?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 28, 2021, 12:56:48 amLet me ask another question.That scene in Trainspotting where Begbie hoys the pint pot over his shoulder and over the balcony into the crowded bar. You agree that was a wrong thing to do?If so, why was he wrong to do it? Surely he doesn't have responsibility for how his actions affect the wider community?Surely it's the responsibility of the other drinkers to watch out for falling glassware?He did it in a pub, if you’re that worried about COVID don’t go into said pub…. Simple Take responsibility for yourself. Let others be free. Those who are not worried.2 cases in Britain and already talk of lockdown. Far to earlier to even know how the vaccine will react.
It is everyone’s responsibility to maintain a level of bio security that is comfortable for them. It is not their responsibility for others
If you feel you can't wear a mask wear a bloody face shield they do not interfere with any breathing problems pretend or real and as far as I'm concerned either should be mandatory no stupid bullshit exceptions especially in taxis etc. and yes Ive had covid it aint nice
''In England, between 2 January and 2 July 2021, there were 51,281 deaths involving coronavirus (COVID-19); 640 occurred in people who were fully vaccinated, which includes people who had been infected before they were vaccinated''''The risk of death involving COVID-19 was consistently lower for people who had received two vaccinations compared to one or no vaccination, as shown by the weekly age-standardised mortality rates (ASMRs) for deaths involving COVID-19''Take care out there, wherever you are.https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/articles/deathsinvolvingcovid19byvaccinationstatusengland/deathsoccurringbetween2januaryand2july2021
Quote from: SydneyRover on November 28, 2021, 10:16:27 am''In England, between 2 January and 2 July 2021, there were 51,281 deaths involving coronavirus (COVID-19); 640 occurred in people who were fully vaccinated, which includes people who had been infected before they were vaccinated''''The risk of death involving COVID-19 was consistently lower for people who had received two vaccinations compared to one or no vaccination, as shown by the weekly age-standardised mortality rates (ASMRs) for deaths involving COVID-19''Take care out there, wherever you are.https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/articles/deathsinvolvingcovid19byvaccinationstatusengland/deathsoccurringbetween2januaryand2july2021Dying of cancer today is about 6 -7 times more likely that dying of Covid. Did you all wake this morning really worried that cancer would take you today? Or did you worry about a minor virus that everyone seems to come on here and say they've had and it was really nasty but yet they are still alive to post about it!
CDH.You're obviously an intelligent person. But you refuse to take the advice of the VAST majority of medical opinion, on distancing, on vaccines, or masks.That's the bit I don't get.Then this.there is nothing to fearYou're right. There isn't anything much to fear for you and you child. But your mask wearing is not about protecting you. It's about stopping you potentially doing damage to others. So what example ARE you setting your child? Given that the VAST majority of medical opinion is that wearing a mask does have a non-negligible effect on reducing the spread of the virus. Because from where I'm looking, it seems you're telling your son that you prefer the take your lead from internet warriors rather than expert opinion. Or that you really don't care about other people.This is the bit that I have trouble with. The idea that not wearing a mask is somehow a mark of brave resistance. When it is actually a mark of ignorance or lack of respect for others.
Wish people would just be honest and admit they are frightened of Covid and thus want people to adhere to measures so that they will be safer. But then they put the onus on the fact that they stick to measures to protect others when deep down they know that is b*llocks and they know that they are using that as excuse to get people to comply because this would make them safer. So that in itself is selfish behaviour. These people are in denial.
Quote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 28, 2021, 10:32:04 amWish people would just be honest and admit they are frightened of Covid and thus want people to adhere to measures so that they will be safer. But then they put the onus on the fact that they stick to measures to protect others when deep down they know that is b*llocks and they know that they are using that as excuse to get people to comply because this would make them safer. So that in itself is selfish behaviour. These people are in denial. Not heard that one before. Doesn't work on me i'm afraid. Were 144k dead people in denial?
Quote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 28, 2021, 10:32:04 amWish people would just be honest and admit they are frightened of Covid and thus want people to adhere to measures so that they will be safer. But then they put the onus on the fact that they stick to measures to protect others when deep down they know that is b*llocks and they know that they are using that as excuse to get people to comply because this would make them safer. So that in itself is selfish behaviour. These people are in denial. Were 144k dead people in denial?
Quote from: Filo on November 28, 2021, 10:34:06 amQuote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 28, 2021, 10:32:04 amWish people would just be honest and admit they are frightened of Covid and thus want people to adhere to measures so that they will be safer. But then they put the onus on the fact that they stick to measures to protect others when deep down they know that is b*llocks and they know that they are using that as excuse to get people to comply because this would make them safer. So that in itself is selfish behaviour. These people are in denial. Were 144k dead people in denial?And what is the average age ?