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Even Johnson's not that batshit. It's a subtitling mistake by C4. He said "people of talent". C4 have apologised.
I’ve listened to 3 times this morning before the storm blew up and made it a matter of opinion, I heard “colour” clearly, and “talent” would not have made sense in that sentence about restricting immigration anyway, look at the context!It sounded like 'colour' to me, butut hard to check now that Channel 4 have taken it down. Couldn't they have just said 'there's disagreement about what he's saying - make your own mind up?'
He lied just a few minutes earlier when he said Labour would put Corporation Tax up to the highest level in Europe.A lie. Pure and simple. A lie.What future is there in our politics if we reward incessant and deliberate liars?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on December 06, 2019, 09:33:07 pmHe lied just a few minutes earlier when he said Labour would put Corporation Tax up to the highest level in Europe.A lie. Pure and simple. A lie.What future is there in our politics if we reward incessant and deliberate liars?I disagree here, I see it almost as his take on labour, it's similar to labour saying the nhs will be sold etc, the other parties may say it but they dont believe it and use it anyway.I will say I find it frustrating though, he use of lies in the election is ridiculous. But, if he tories hey their majority they have to get it right this time or next election they are doomed.Watched the debate last night and thought Boris was better than previously, but still pretty weak on detail a few times. His lines on Corbyn as a poor leader were excellent for him and that is largely I feel why they will win. If it was not Corbyn on the other side I'd fancy their chances to beat Boris.
If you don't want an end to Austerity, london centric politics and spending, homelessness, working poor, zero hours contracts, a fairer distribution of wealth you may be right bigH labour has poor leaders.
Couldn't agree more Big H.I thought Corbyn was calm and on top of the detail. In normal times, that would be enough to win hands down. But these aren't normal times.I said to my wife while we were watching last night, this is Corbyn's chance slipping away. As you say, he needed to land some big punches on Johnson's lying and general untrustworthiness and I don't think he did that. If he had, experience suggests that Johnson either flounders or gets angry and bullies. That was the side of Johnson that Corbyn needed to expose last night and he didn't do it.If I'd have been in Corbyn's shoes, I'd have said at the start that every time Johnson lied, I was going to put my hand up and unfurl another finger to keep the running score. Simple, effective, memorable and it would have infuriated Johnson.
Sproty.That in itself was an untruth. Those documents aren't made up.But hey! There you go. You want a PM who makes you piss yourself while he lies to you, you've got it. I'm sure you're proud of yourself.