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Not me. Many of us won't be locked away again.
Quote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 25, 2021, 11:57:36 pmNot me. Many of us won't be locked away again. Looks like you'll be out on the barricades demanding your right to get sick then. Good luck with that.
Quote from: River Don on November 25, 2021, 11:59:26 pmQuote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 25, 2021, 11:57:36 pmNot me. Many of us won't be locked away again. Looks like you'll be out on the barricades demanding your right to get sick then. Good luck with that.Absolutely. It is my choice. Personal choice is something that most people seem to have given up wilfully or have failed to exercise due to the desperate need to be told what to do by the Tories.
Quote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 26, 2021, 09:14:14 amQuote from: River Don on November 25, 2021, 11:59:26 pmQuote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 25, 2021, 11:57:36 pmNot me. Many of us won't be locked away again. Looks like you'll be out on the barricades demanding your right to get sick then. Good luck with that.Absolutely. It is my choice. Personal choice is something that most people seem to have given up wilfully or have failed to exercise due to the desperate need to be told what to do by the Tories. Why did you have the first vaccination?
Quote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 26, 2021, 09:14:14 amQuote from: River Don on November 25, 2021, 11:59:26 pmQuote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 25, 2021, 11:57:36 pmNot me. Many of us won't be locked away again. Looks like you'll be out on the barricades demanding your right to get sick then. Good luck with that.Absolutely. It is my choice. Personal choice is something that most people seem to have given up wilfully or have failed to exercise due to the desperate need to be told what to do by the Tories. Personal choice works two ways. For instance those who will not accept vacinnation, it's their personal choice. But it impacts others who do not have a personal choice. In not accepting vacinnation they are potential vectors of the virus.I'm all for personal choice so long as it doesn't impact others. Smoke if you will, fine but don't do it in public indoor spaces. Drink if you will, fine but don't get behind the wheel of a car if you do.I would advocate the same approach with the unvaccinated, fine but don't go in public indoor spaces if you aren't vacinnated. Stay out of pubs, restaurants, cinemas, off public transport and aircraft.
I'm sorry CDH but the benefits of vacinnation are clear.In not being upto date with your vacinnes you are a danger to yourself and others. It's simply antisocial behaviour.
Quote from: River Don on November 26, 2021, 09:31:02 amI'm sorry CDH but the benefits of vacinnation are clear.In not being upto date with your vacinnes you are a danger to yourself and others. It's simply antisocial behaviour.Have to assume you have had every vaccine known to man every year then RD including things that do not circulate freely to be covered. To not have done so would make you a hypocrite
Quote from: Ldr on November 26, 2021, 09:35:09 amQuote from: River Don on November 26, 2021, 09:31:02 amI'm sorry CDH but the benefits of vacinnation are clear.In not being upto date with your vacinnes you are a danger to yourself and others. It's simply antisocial behaviour.Have to assume you have had every vaccine known to man every year then RD including things that do not circulate freely to be covered. To not have done so would make you a hypocrite I've never turned a vacinne down.
Quote from: River Don on November 26, 2021, 09:37:44 amQuote from: Ldr on November 26, 2021, 09:35:09 amQuote from: River Don on November 26, 2021, 09:31:02 amI'm sorry CDH but the benefits of vacinnation are clear.In not being upto date with your vacinnes you are a danger to yourself and others. It's simply antisocial behaviour.Have to assume you have had every vaccine known to man every year then RD including things that do not circulate freely to be covered. To not have done so would make you a hypocrite I've never turned a vacinne down.Have you proactively gone to the go asking for ones not commonly circulated, if not my point stands
Quote from: Ldr on November 26, 2021, 09:39:16 amQuote from: River Don on November 26, 2021, 09:37:44 amQuote from: Ldr on November 26, 2021, 09:35:09 amQuote from: River Don on November 26, 2021, 09:31:02 amI'm sorry CDH but the benefits of vacinnation are clear.In not being upto date with your vacinnes you are a danger to yourself and others. It's simply antisocial behaviour.Have to assume you have had every vaccine known to man every year then RD including things that do not circulate freely to be covered. To not have done so would make you a hypocrite I've never turned a vacinne down.Have you proactively gone to the go asking for ones not commonly circulated, if not my point standsI don't think it does. If I'm required to have one I take it. If I'm offered one i take it.
Quote from: River Don on November 26, 2021, 09:31:02 amI'm sorry CDH but the benefits of vacinnation are clear.In not being upto date with your vacinnes you are a danger to yourself and others. It's simply antisocial behaviour.Dear oh dear. 1. I am not a danger to myself because the virus doesn't kill 99.9% of people, let alone many people in their 40's. Therefore the risk to me is negligible even without a vaccine. 2. Even if i was at a greatly increased risk from Covid, it is still my choice whether i wish to dance with danger or not. Nobody elses. My body, my choice. 3. Vaccinated people still pass on Covid to others. The delta variant for example shows next to no difference in transmissability between the jabbed and unjabbed. Therefore, jabbed people are just as much a risk to others as the unjabbed. Not sure why people don't understand this simple concept. 4. Even if the vaccine 100% stopped Covid. It is still the choice of the individual whether to have a vaccine injected into their body. 5. I am very anti social yes. By choice. If i wasn't then i'd probably be in prison.
Quote from: River Don on November 26, 2021, 09:40:49 amQuote from: Ldr on November 26, 2021, 09:39:16 amQuote from: River Don on November 26, 2021, 09:37:44 amQuote from: Ldr on November 26, 2021, 09:35:09 amQuote from: River Don on November 26, 2021, 09:31:02 amI'm sorry CDH but the benefits of vacinnation are clear.In not being upto date with your vacinnes you are a danger to yourself and others. It's simply antisocial behaviour.Have to assume you have had every vaccine known to man every year then RD including things that do not circulate freely to be covered. To not have done so would make you a hypocrite I've never turned a vacinne down.Have you proactively gone to the go asking for ones not commonly circulated, if not my point standsI don't think it does. If I'm required to have one I take it. If I'm offered one i take it.Don’t get me wrong RD I’m not having a go at you personally. It’s how far down this path ppl want to go. No other vaccinated any of us have had have been to protect anyone but the recipient but now this is been pushed to protect others. Doesn’t that make you want to ask questions? Even a little?
Quote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 26, 2021, 09:40:14 amQuote from: River Don on November 26, 2021, 09:31:02 amI'm sorry CDH but the benefits of vacinnation are clear.In not being upto date with your vacinnes you are a danger to yourself and others. It's simply antisocial behaviour.Dear oh dear. 1. I am not a danger to myself because the virus doesn't kill 99.9% of people, let alone many people in their 40's. Therefore the risk to me is negligible even without a vaccine. 2. Even if i was at a greatly increased risk from Covid, it is still my choice whether i wish to dance with danger or not. Nobody elses. My body, my choice. 3. Vaccinated people still pass on Covid to others. The delta variant for example shows next to no difference in transmissability between the jabbed and unjabbed. Therefore, jabbed people are just as much a risk to others as the unjabbed. Not sure why people don't understand this simple concept. 4. Even if the vaccine 100% stopped Covid. It is still the choice of the individual whether to have a vaccine injected into their body. 5. I am very anti social yes. By choice. If i wasn't then i'd probably be in prison. A vaccinated person with covid has a significantly reduced viral load, so the chances of spreading it are a lot smaller than an unvaccinated person
Very disturbing news coming out of South Africa. The R rate is Gauteng where the new variant is prevalent is around 2. I’m not confident us and the Eu preventing flights from South Africa will stop its spread. People will find a way and just fly via another country like the Middle East. It is coming to the uk sooner or later. That’s if it’s not here already. The big question is around transmissibility. And will the vaccines to date stand up to it. I see airline shares have tanked this morning. Tui down 10%. IAG down 15%. Not good signs . I am fully prepared for another national lockdown. The govt are playing this down. I fear we are going to get caught with our pants down again.
Quote from: River Don on November 26, 2021, 09:40:49 amQuote from: Ldr on November 26, 2021, 09:39:16 amQuote from: River Don on November 26, 2021, 09:37:44 amQuote from: Ldr on November 26, 2021, 09:35:09 amQuote from: River Don on November 26, 2021, 09:31:02 amI'm sorry CDH but the benefits of vacinnation are clear.In not being upto date with your vacinnes you are a danger to yourself and others. It's simply antisocial behaviour.Have to assume you have had every vaccine known to man every year then RD including things that do not circulate freely to be covered. To not have done so would make you a hypocrite I've never turned a vacinne down.Have you proactively gone to the go asking for ones not commonly circulated, if not my point standsI don't think it does. If I'm required to have one I take it. If I'm offered one i take it.What if the Government said you needed a booster every month for ever, along with taking 2 pills a day to ward off the evil Covid? Would you take them?
Quote from: normal rules on November 26, 2021, 09:58:00 amVery disturbing news coming out of South Africa. The R rate is Gauteng where the new variant is prevalent is around 2. I’m not confident us and the Eu preventing flights from South Africa will stop its spread. People will find a way and just fly via another country like the Middle East. It is coming to the uk sooner or later. That’s if it’s not here already. The big question is around transmissibility. And will the vaccines to date stand up to it. I see airline shares have tanked this morning. Tui down 10%. IAG down 15%. Not good signs . I am fully prepared for another national lockdown. The govt are playing this down. I fear we are going to get caught with our pants down again. Very dispiriting news this.They should be making mask wearing mandatory in public spaces this morning. They should be encouraging social distancing again.As ever with this, act fast ask questions later.
Quote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 26, 2021, 10:13:03 amQuote from: River Don on November 26, 2021, 09:40:49 amQuote from: Ldr on November 26, 2021, 09:39:16 amQuote from: River Don on November 26, 2021, 09:37:44 amQuote from: Ldr on November 26, 2021, 09:35:09 amQuote from: River Don on November 26, 2021, 09:31:02 amI'm sorry CDH but the benefits of vacinnation are clear.In not being upto date with your vacinnes you are a danger to yourself and others. It's simply antisocial behaviour.Have to assume you have had every vaccine known to man every year then RD including things that do not circulate freely to be covered. To not have done so would make you a hypocrite I've never turned a vacinne down.Have you proactively gone to the go asking for ones not commonly circulated, if not my point standsI don't think it does. If I'm required to have one I take it. If I'm offered one i take it.What if the Government said you needed a booster every month for ever, along with taking 2 pills a day to ward off the evil Covid? Would you take them?Considering I take 4 pills a day and an injection once a week, for another health condition, I don’t think that would be such a hardship. My wife takes 13 pills a day, a couple more wouldn’t be out of the way
Quote from: Filo on November 26, 2021, 10:17:27 amQuote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 26, 2021, 10:13:03 amQuote from: River Don on November 26, 2021, 09:40:49 amQuote from: Ldr on November 26, 2021, 09:39:16 amQuote from: River Don on November 26, 2021, 09:37:44 amQuote from: Ldr on November 26, 2021, 09:35:09 amQuote from: River Don on November 26, 2021, 09:31:02 amI'm sorry CDH but the benefits of vacinnation are clear.In not being upto date with your vacinnes you are a danger to yourself and others. It's simply antisocial behaviour.Have to assume you have had every vaccine known to man every year then RD including things that do not circulate freely to be covered. To not have done so would make you a hypocrite I've never turned a vacinne down.Have you proactively gone to the go asking for ones not commonly circulated, if not my point standsI don't think it does. If I'm required to have one I take it. If I'm offered one i take it.What if the Government said you needed a booster every month for ever, along with taking 2 pills a day to ward off the evil Covid? Would you take them?Considering I take 4 pills a day and an injection once a week, for another health condition, I don’t think that would be such a hardship. My wife takes 13 pills a day, a couple more wouldn’t be out of the wayThat is my point though. Old people already on shedloads of medication and taking jabs every 2 minutes simply want everyone to do the same, even young folk and kids who don't even need them, just so that they be safe.. It is embarrassing, pathetic and selfish. Kids have already suffered so that older people can enjoy their lives. Never again.