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I would support a system where citizens of every country have the same rights to live in this country as Europeans, based on an Australian style points-based system.
The main thing is ensuring that they operate within the law, if they've done that, which they likely have then there cannot be too many complaints IMO.
BYFP - what are you looking forward to most post brexit?
Quote from: bobjimwilly on August 30, 2019, 08:22:21 amBYFP - what are you looking forward to most post brexit? Dont know about BFYP but I will look forward to a representative Election / Voting process for the UK or England if the big split comesAlso I will look forward to a "movement" that will look to take us back into the EU at the earliest possible opportunity
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on August 30, 2019, 08:19:31 amThe main thing is ensuring that they operate within the law, if they've done that, which they likely have then there cannot be too many complaints IMO.So if we could pass a law to declare the Conservative Party a proscribed organisation and then jailed all the members you'd be OK with that bfyp?
Aaaannnddd cue the "Disciples" stage of a BB argument.You DO know that the idea of Groundhog Day was that Bill Murray sorted out the balls ups he'd made the previous time. He didn't just keep repeating them.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on August 29, 2019, 07:53:01 pmI would support a system where citizens of every country have the same rights to live in this country as Europeans, based on an Australian style points-based system. Most immigrants come from outside Europe, so it seems to me like they have those rights already.
''A Scottish judge has retired to consider a legal attempt to block the suspension of the UK Parliament.Lord Doherty heard arguments from representatives of a cross-party group seeking an interim interdict that would halt the move by the government.Arguing for the UK government, Roddy Dunlop QC said the issue "was not a matter for the courts".The judge will return to give his decision at 10:00 on Friday.The group of 75 parliamentarians are seeking the Scottish legal equivalent of an injunction to stop parliament being suspended, pending a full hearing on 6 September''https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-49509712It would be quite amusing if one of those foreigners made a decision that thwarted guido johnson.
Quote from: MachoMadness on August 29, 2019, 11:24:19 pmQuote from: Bentley Bullet on August 29, 2019, 07:53:01 pmI would support a system where citizens of every country have the same rights to live in this country as Europeans, based on an Australian style points-based system. Most immigrants come from outside Europe, so it seems to me like they have those rights already. https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/eu-migration-to-and-from-the-uk/
Wilts. Are you deliberately missing the point or just plain trying to deceive people into believing you've got a point? NON-EU MEMBERS DO NOT HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AS EU MEMBERS. The government DOES have full control of whether none-EU members can come here but NOT full control of EU members.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on August 30, 2019, 05:40:30 pmWilts. Are you deliberately missing the point or just plain trying to deceive people into believing you've got a point? NON-EU MEMBERS DO NOT HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AS EU MEMBERS. The government DOES have full control of whether none-EU members can come here but NOT full control of EU members.Hence my confusion at the link to the article you posted - which interesting as it is - does not discuss comparable rights of EU and non-EU citizens.What it says is: here are countries EU citizens come from, this is why they come, this is what they are entitled to, there has been a fall since the referendum - and by the way more people come to the UK from outside the EU anyway.So again what is the point of that article in relation to Macho's point that most migrants come from outside Europe?
Quote from: Donnywolf on August 30, 2019, 08:29:09 amQuote from: bobjimwilly on August 30, 2019, 08:22:21 amBYFP - what are you looking forward to most post brexit? Dont know about BFYP but I will look forward to a representative Election / Voting process for the UK or England if the big split comesAlso I will look forward to a "movement" that will look to take us back into the EU at the earliest possible opportunityAnd how would you feel if Parliament did everything in its power to overturn the result of election/voting process Wolf?
Quote from: wilts rover on August 31, 2019, 09:30:59 amQuote from: Bentley Bullet on August 30, 2019, 05:40:30 pmWilts. Are you deliberately missing the point or just plain trying to deceive people into believing you've got a point? NON-EU MEMBERS DO NOT HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AS EU MEMBERS. The government DOES have full control of whether none-EU members can come here but NOT full control of EU members.Hence my confusion at the link to the article you posted - which interesting as it is - does not discuss comparable rights of EU and non-EU citizens.What it says is: here are countries EU citizens come from, this is why they come, this is what they are entitled to, there has been a fall since the referendum - and by the way more people come to the UK from outside the EU anyway.So again what is the point of that article in relation to Macho's point that most migrants come from outside Europe?The VERY FIRST paragraph in understanding the evidence."EU citizens are a key group in UK immigration policy as they currently enjoy free movement within the European Union and the government cannot limit their rights to live and work in the UK in the same way that it does for non-EU nationals"
Yes BB.Thank you for hammering home the bleeding obvious.That's the sort of thing that happens when you strike trading deals and arrangements.India has already said that if we want a post Brexit trade deal the price will include easing of work visas for Indians coming to Britain.Presumably, by your "What can I have a childish row about today" logic, that would be racist too.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on August 31, 2019, 09:50:57 amQuote from: wilts rover on August 31, 2019, 09:30:59 amQuote from: Bentley Bullet on August 30, 2019, 05:40:30 pmWilts. Are you deliberately missing the point or just plain trying to deceive people into believing you've got a point? NON-EU MEMBERS DO NOT HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AS EU MEMBERS. The government DOES have full control of whether none-EU members can come here but NOT full control of EU members.Hence my confusion at the link to the article you posted - which interesting as it is - does not discuss comparable rights of EU and non-EU citizens.What it says is: here are countries EU citizens come from, this is why they come, this is what they are entitled to, there has been a fall since the referendum - and by the way more people come to the UK from outside the EU anyway.So again what is the point of that article in relation to Macho's point that most migrants come from outside Europe?The VERY FIRST paragraph in understanding the evidence."EU citizens are a key group in UK immigration policy as they currently enjoy free movement within the European Union and the government cannot limit their rights to live and work in the UK in the same way that it does for non-EU nationals"That's not evidence! Of anything. It's a statement.And don't go accusing me of requiring correcting when all I am doing is asking you why you have put up a pointless link.It's up to you to explain this new Australian points system that you are looking forward too - not me.