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Nudga

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #930 on March 23, 2020, 07:01:00 am by Nudga »
What a surprise, Harvey Weinstein has the virus now, he will "die".

Corey Feldman next, that'll shut him up.



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BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #931 on March 23, 2020, 09:56:50 am by BillyStubbsTears »
If you know any bell ends who went out on jollies yesterday, send them this. And tell them to f**king well take some responsibility.

https://thespinoff.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Covid-19-Transmission-graphic-01.gif?fbclid=IwAR3-fgGKmy-bRcMYgSSL9baiCJ9p07CZkvDJBlwCGahrNziwqDhtOtx82hI

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #932 on March 23, 2020, 10:41:48 am by BillyStubbsTears »

big fat yorkshire pudding

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« Reply #933 on March 23, 2020, 10:48:45 am by big fat yorkshire pudding »
https://mobile.twitter.com/Gilesyb/status/1241873307034673162

Simple stuff, not being attended to.

Great point this, they managed it for Brexit......

Though I would say you have to live a bizarre life to not know the advice.  The sad thing is so many taking it lightly.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #934 on March 23, 2020, 10:50:05 am by BillyStubbsTears »
They spent £100m on adverts telling people to prep for a no deal Brexit in October.

Two months into this emergency, there's not been a single Govt advert.

Strange priorities...

IDM

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #935 on March 23, 2020, 11:03:29 am by IDM »
I thought they were going to put come sort of ads out.. maybe the circumstances are changing so rapidly they just can’t decide what to say.?

jackthelad

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #936 on March 23, 2020, 11:13:24 am by jackthelad »
So do people actually think we will have a full lockdown,if so how long?

silent majority

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« Reply #937 on March 23, 2020, 11:30:15 am by silent majority »

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #938 on March 23, 2020, 12:15:05 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Massive day for us today. If the number of deaths is below 60-70, it will really look like we've started bending the curve much quicker than Italy did. Won't be us out of the woods, and I'm sure the stupidity of millions yesterday will cause us a problem in a week or two, but it'll mean that the bottom-up shutdown that started 10-14 days ago will have been working. Finger crossed.

IDM

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« Reply #939 on March 23, 2020, 12:19:36 pm by IDM »
We only had some significant government “advice” last Monday.  IMHO one week is too soon to determine if this has been effective.

Of course, any reduction in rate growth is welcome, but I still don’t think we test enough.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #940 on March 23, 2020, 12:35:42 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
IDM.

That's why I say bottom up.

Companies started shutting down from a fortnight ago, and to be fair, the handshaking and washing thing was established a fortnight ago even if some in here were ridiculing it.

Filo

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« Reply #941 on March 23, 2020, 12:43:38 pm by Filo »
So do people actually think we will have a full lockdown,if so how long?

Yes, without a doubt, two weeks to start with in my opinion

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #942 on March 23, 2020, 12:45:54 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Depends how successful it is really. Two weeks absolute minimum. Probably closer to 3 months.

IDM

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« Reply #943 on March 23, 2020, 01:12:52 pm by IDM »
IDM.

That's why I say bottom up.

Companies started shutting down from a fortnight ago, and to be fair, the handshaking and washing thing was established a fortnight ago even if some in here were ridiculing it.

Yeah I was meaning more the social distancing measures..

Copps is Magic

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« Reply #944 on March 23, 2020, 01:37:22 pm by Copps is Magic »
Just reported the lowest daily increase in cases (13%) and deaths (19%) here in the Netherlands* since the first case. German health minister is suggesting tentatively that the curve is flattening there also.


*very suprised about here, very lax response and measures relatively speaking.

Copps is Magic

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« Reply #945 on March 23, 2020, 02:53:59 pm by Copps is Magic »
Just reported the lowest daily increase in cases (13%) and deaths (19%) here in the Netherlands* since the first case. German health minister is suggesting tentatively that the curve is flattening there also.


*very suprised about here, very lax response and measures relatively speaking.

To add.

Here is data from Dutch ICUs. https://www.stichting-nice.nl/covid-19-op-de-ic.jsp

Some promising trends.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #946 on March 23, 2020, 03:18:06 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
If 21 is the final figure of deaths today from Germany, it definitely looks like they've bent the curve earlier than most countries.

Copps is Magic

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« Reply #947 on March 23, 2020, 03:27:57 pm by Copps is Magic »
https://twitter.com/Tom_Winter/status/1242108074439127043

Meanwhile in the US - I make that a 33% increase in deaths in New York State. Deaths are doubling every 2 days there.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/21/upshot/coronavirus-deaths-by-country.html


jackthelad

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« Reply #948 on March 23, 2020, 03:40:38 pm by jackthelad »
Will Boris lock us down today? or at all?
What times his updatE?

drfcdrfc

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« Reply #949 on March 23, 2020, 03:44:12 pm by drfcdrfc »
His updates normally around 5

The Red Baron

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« Reply #950 on March 23, 2020, 03:44:28 pm by The Red Baron »
Just reported the lowest daily increase in cases (13%) and deaths (19%) here in the Netherlands* since the first case. German health minister is suggesting tentatively that the curve is flattening there also.


*very suprised about here, very lax response and measures relatively speaking.


It seems that in the Netherlands they have followed a similar path to the UK and in Germany only now are they going for the more restrictive approach.

As someone said, whatever a country does appears to represent a gamble of sorts.

Certainly by the end of this week I expect the UK will be in Lockdown.

Copps is Magic

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« Reply #951 on March 23, 2020, 03:49:04 pm by Copps is Magic »
I'm not so sure. I think if several countries start seeing a flatter curve we're in a different reality where we'll need to work out what kind of life continues. China seems to be slowly starting things up again.

Filo

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« Reply #952 on March 23, 2020, 04:16:21 pm by Filo »
Massive day for us today. If the number of deaths is below 60-70, it will really look like we've started bending the curve much quicker than Italy did. Won't be us out of the woods, and I'm sure the stupidity of millions yesterday will cause us a problem in a week or two, but it'll mean that the bottom-up shutdown that started 10-14 days ago will have been working. Finger crossed.

The figure is 46 today

Muttley

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« Reply #953 on March 23, 2020, 04:31:30 pm by Muttley »
46 in England plus 4 each in Scotland and Wales

jackthelad

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« Reply #954 on March 23, 2020, 04:43:38 pm by jackthelad »
So is it slowing down do we think? Maybe no need for lockdown?

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #955 on March 23, 2020, 04:51:22 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
So is it slowing down do we think? Maybe no need for lockdown?

Excellent news that the number of new deaths is low.

But keep this in perspective. Last week the deaths were doubling every 2 days. They are still roughly doubling every 4-5 days. This is far from defeated, and the last thing we should do is relax the situation. we have to get the rate of doubling up to every ten days, then every 20 days and we have to do it quickly.

This needs very careful management. If people think we've done the job and we can go back to normal anytime soon, they are in for a shock. And if people keep on acting like they did yesterday, frankly, we are f**ked.
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BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #956 on March 23, 2020, 04:56:31 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
I'm not so sure. I think if several countries start seeing a flatter curve we're in a different reality where we'll need to work out what kind of life continues. China seems to be slowly starting things up again.

Did you see that "The Hammer and the Dance" article I posted on Saturday? That discusses that very theme.

You Hammer down the virus cases initially. That buys you time. Time to increase your ICU capacity. Time to get your shit together on mass testing. Then you Dance, lifting restrictions where you can then reimposing them where and when you need to. And that maybe goes on for 18-24 months, until we have a vaccine or herd immunity.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #957 on March 23, 2020, 05:03:27 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
So is it slowing down do we think? Maybe no need for lockdown?

Excellent news that the number of new deaths is low.

But keep this in perspective. Last week the deaths were doubling every 2 days. They are still roughly doubling every 4-5 days. This is far from defeated, and the last thing we should do is relax the situation. we have to get the rate of doubling up to every ten days, then every 20 days and we have to do it quickly.

This needs very careful management. If people think we've done the job and we can go back to normal anytime soon, they are in for a shock. And if people keep on acting like they did yesterday, frankly, we are f**ked.

Put it in perspective. We have done very well to increase the doubling time of the number of deaths. we've broken off the 2 day doubling trend before France and well before Italy and Spain. (Germany has done it even faster - respect).

But, if our deaths keep doubling at the rate they are now doing, it only slightly delays disaster. Carry on at the current rate and we'd have the same number of deaths that Spain currently has by a week of Friday, instead of by next Sunday, which is where we were heading before this slowdown. We'd hit the deaths that Italy currently has by 8 April, instead of 30 March.

Keep washing your hands. Keep staying at home where you can. Keep your distance from people when you HAVE to go outdoors.

And no more f**king daytrips for a bit.

jackthelad

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« Reply #958 on March 23, 2020, 05:14:25 pm by jackthelad »
Boris conference cancelled whilst he is in a emergency cobra meeting my mate just ext mate?  announcement later?

Is this true?

bigbadjack

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« Reply #959 on March 23, 2020, 05:17:35 pm by bigbadjack »
Yes it started at 5pm

 

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