Coronavirus

[SydneyRover]

Time flies, 18000 have died of covid since freedom day in July.

[normal rules]

My point being, this latest variant seems less impactive from an nhs perspective, aside from this in the nhs that have to isolate of course.

[Bentley Bullet]

My point being, this latest variant seems less impactive from an nhs perspective, aside from this in the nhs that have to isolate of course.

NR, can you image how hard it must be for someone living on the other side of the world, constantly telling us how bad it must be for us living in such a deadly, pandemically poisoned, poverty stricken existence of racism, unemployment and starvation, with only a handful of twerps agreeing with him?

Show some compassion!

[SydneyRover]

My point being, this latest variant seems less impactive from an nhs perspective, aside from this in the nhs that have to isolate of course.

sorry NR, my comment wasn't in reply to yours but an interesting fact I came across pertinent to the thread

[BillyStubbsTears]

There's a warning in the daily hospital admission data. The latest figures for England, admissions on Tuesday are up about 35% on the same day last week. Tuesday was the first time since February that there were more than 1000 new COVID hospital admissions since February.

And the hospital admissions usually lag the new case rises and falls by a week or so, which means this recent rise in admissions relates to the time that the Omicron wave was only just starting. So the new hospital admissions will probably rise sharply for the next week, and it looks very likely that daily deaths will be heading back up towards 200 by early Jan. After that it all comes down to how much Omicron spreads over Xmas.

[Bentley Bullet]

Fingers crossed Billy, It'll be another nail in the Tories demise, aye?

[SydneyRover]

moderator, hmmm

[BillyStubbsTears]

Fingers crossed Billy, It'll be another nail in the Tories demise, aye?

You utter bell end.

[normal rules]

Fingers crossed Billy, It'll be another nail in the Tories demise, aye?

You utter bell end.

This made me chuckle at 7am. Just logging on for work. The beauty of the English language. Such small words. So poignant. Succinct and to the point.
Bell.
End.

[Axholme Lion]

Surprise surprise Omicron is less harmful than Delta. Can we have our lives back please now? What a shame for Mao Tse Drakeford and Che Sturgeon.

[SydneyRover]

It's only a surprise to those that can't see into the future.

[rich1471]

It might be less harmful ,but it is more transmittable ,so if twice as many people catch it than the Delta variant you might have the same number admitted to hospital, this will only be known in a couple of weeks time one way or another

[Axholme Lion]

It might be less harmful ,but it is more transmittable ,so if twice as many people catch it than the Delta variant you might have the same number admitted to hospital, this will only be known in a couple of weeks time one way or another

Maybe a way of slowing down the transmission of omicron would be for all NHS staff to be vaccinated? All this save the NHS stuff is becoming a bit rich when thousands of their own staff can't be bothered to get the jab. What sort of message is that to send out when they are begging for restrictions? How many people have gone into hospital with other illness and picked up covid in hospital from unvaccinated NHS staff?

[bpoolrover]

Fair play to Andy Burnham saying the government are right to wait before imposing nee restrictions, nice to see someone not play politics with the virus

[Not Now Kato]

My point being, this latest variant seems less impactive from an nhs perspective, aside from this in the nhs that have to isolate of course.

It may well be, but Delta is still around, and that WILL impact the NHS!
 
The media aren't helping with this either, as all they want to talk about is Omicron!

[Axholme Lion]

My point being, this latest variant seems less impactive from an nhs perspective, aside from this in the nhs that have to isolate of course.

It may well be, but Delta is still around, and that WILL impact the NHS!
 
The media aren't helping with this either, as all they want to talk about is Omicron!

Omnicrom will take the place of delta as it is a better virus as regards it's ability to spread. Survival of the fittest. Maybe NHS staff who are unvaccinated are the biggest problem here?

[normal rules]

Cambridge game now off.

[drfchound]

Fair play to Andy Burnham saying the government are right to wait before imposing nee restrictions, nice to see someone not play politics with the virus

Quality by Burnham.

[drfchound]

Fingers crossed Billy, It'll be another nail in the Tories demise, aye?

You utter bell end.

Uncalled for abuse of another forum member.

[Not Now Kato]

My point being, this latest variant seems less impactive from an nhs perspective, aside from this in the nhs that have to isolate of course.

It may well be, but Delta is still around, and that WILL impact the NHS!
 
The media aren't helping with this either, as all they want to talk about is Omicron!

Omnicrom will take the place of delta as it is a better virus as regards it's ability to spread. Survival of the fittest. Maybe NHS staff who are unvaccinated are the biggest problem here?

It almost certainly will, in time. But right now Delta is alive and well and is affecting, (infecting), people. I agree about NHS staff who are unvaccinated, but you also have to add in those in the general public who, without good reason, are also refusing the vaccination!

[Axholme Lion]

My point being, this latest variant seems less impactive from an nhs perspective, aside from this in the nhs that have to isolate of course.

It may well be, but Delta is still around, and that WILL impact the NHS!
 
The media aren't helping with this either, as all they want to talk about is Omicron!

Omnicrom will take the place of delta as it is a better virus as regards it's ability to spread. Survival of the fittest. Maybe NHS staff who are unvaccinated are the biggest problem here?

It almost certainly will, in time. But right now Delta is alive and well and is affecting, (infecting), people. I agree about NHS staff who are unvaccinated, but you also have to add in those in the general public who, without good reason, are also refusing the vaccination!

Correct. It's all these things added together which are stopping progress.

[scawsby steve]

Fair play to Andy Burnham saying the government are right to wait before imposing nee restrictions, nice to see someone not play politics with the virus

Quality by Burnham.

Absolutely, mate. Just think what chance Labour would have in the next GE if he were leader instead of Keith.

[Metalmicky]

120k cases and 147 deaths today

[kirk]

120k cases and 147 deaths today

Let’s give Boris a little credit for not locking  us Down. Still a buffoon though.

[rich1471]

He might not have too ,we will all be isolating soon if it spreads any faster ,8 out of 30 staff off at the minute at work due to it

[BillyStubbsTears]

He might not have too ,we will all be isolating soon if it spreads any faster ,8 out of 30 staff off at the minute at work due to it

You'd think people would get this after 2 years of making the same mistake over and over again.

Delaying lockdown while an epidemic gets out of control doesn't minimise the damage. It maximises it. Either in wrecking the economy when 20 million if us all have the virus at the same time. Or in making the lockdown have to go on for longer when you finally do act. 

Kirk. Lockdown is coming. It's just not coming before Xmas. And it will be longer and harder because it's been delayed. If we had locked down 2 weeks ago and kept the spread under control, giving the brilliant booster programme time to increase defences, we could have controlled this. Instead, as ever, we've crossed our fingers and hoped it would all be fine. And it's not.

[kirk]

He might not have too ,we will all be isolating soon if it spreads any faster ,8 out of 30 staff off at the minute at work due to it

You'd think people would get this after 2 years of making the same mistake over and over again.

Delaying lockdown while an epidemic gets out of control doesn't minimise the damage. It maximises it. Either in wrecking the economy when 20 million if us all have the virus at the same time. Or in making the lockdown have to go on for longer when you finally do act. 

Kirk. Lockdown is coming. It's just not coming before Xmas. And it will be longer and harder because it's been delayed. If we had locked down 2 weeks ago and kept the spread under control, giving the brilliant booster programme time to increase defences, we could have controlled this. Instead, as ever, we've crossed our fingers and hoped it would all be fine. And it's not.

I get it now... the booster stops you from getting it. No, just stops you from getting seriously ill. Which is now what they are saying about omicron anyway.

What happens when Pi comes along start all over again?

Your predictions of only a couple of weeks ago are not materialising as you thought?

If lockdown does come let’s hope we take to the streets and show we don’t approve.

[kirk]

He might not have too ,we will all be isolating soon if it spreads any faster ,8 out of 30 staff off at the minute at work due to it

And how many where unvaccinated?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Bpool.

It's balance of risks.

If you act quickly and it turns out you've over reacted, the worst thing is a couple of weeks of depressed economy.

If you don't act quickly and it turns out worse than you'd hoped, you've got months of lockdown to put it right, and tens of thousands of avoidable deaths.

I can't believe we're having this discussion after seeing this play out three times already.

And it's even more acute this time because this virus is spreading so quickly. If we are lucky, it will only hospitalise 30% of the people that Delta did. But if you delay action by 5 days, you've lost every bit of that benefit because you have so many more infections. 

[rich1471]

He might not have too ,we will all be isolating soon if it spreads any faster ,8 out of 30 staff off at the minute at work due to it

And how many where unvaccinated?

non of them all vaccinated, 2 even had boosters