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Which do you prefer?

PM/EU Deal
9 (8.3%)
Hard Brexit/clean break
26 (24.1%)
No Deal Brexit
12 (11.1%)
2nd Referendum poss Overturn Brexit
58 (53.7%)
Anything else Brexit
3 (2.8%)

Total Members Voted: 106

Voting closed: December 13, 2018, 06:57:46 PM

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BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Brexit deal
« Reply #1560 on February 13, 2019, 10:18:15 PM by BillyStubbsTears »
In other news. I see Ford has also joined Project Fear today. It's some cabal, trying to deceive us all, int it?

But never mind. A failed politician is here telling us it'll all be ok.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCr4today/status/1094891032951558144

I wonder if there is anyone left in the country who listens to what he says and thinks "Yep! He's got a track record of telling the truth and doing what's best for the country. I'll believe him."

Donnywolf

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Re: Brexit deal
« Reply #1561 on February 13, 2019, 10:33:34 PM by Donnywolf »
I cant believe any MP / Minister any more

They are all duplicitous and give vaguely wrong or vaguely right answers whichever faction they are in but I think that they think :

a) they are convincing and so we believe them

b) after this mess is resolved one way or another they will just carry on without recriminations

Probably with b) they will be right

Axholme Lion

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Re: Brexit deal
« Reply #1562 on February 14, 2019, 12:52:16 PM by Axholme Lion »
In other news. I see Ford has also joined Project Fear today. It's some cabal, trying to deceive us all, int it?

But never mind. A failed politician is here telling us it'll all be ok.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCr4today/status/1094891032951558144

I wonder if there is anyone left in the country who listens to what he says and thinks "Yep! He's got a track record of telling the truth and doing what's best for the country. I'll believe him."

The last I heard was that Ford was ready to chuck in the towel on selling cars in the whole of Europe in any case.

bobjimwilly

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Re: Brexit deal
« Reply #1563 on February 14, 2019, 12:58:48 PM by bobjimwilly »
In other news. I see Ford has also joined Project Fear today. It's some cabal, trying to deceive us all, int it?

But never mind. A failed politician is here telling us it'll all be ok.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCr4today/status/1094891032951558144

I wonder if there is anyone left in the country who listens to what he says and thinks "Yep! He's got a track record of telling the truth and doing what's best for the country. I'll believe him."

The last I heard was that Ford was ready to chuck in the towel on selling cars in the whole of Europe in any case.

I'm sure there will be an article on that somewhere then...

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Brexit deal
« Reply #1564 on February 14, 2019, 01:05:12 PM by BillyStubbsTears »
Meanwhile, the Labour front bench continues to stick it's face out and shout "Free Punch!" because they are utterly incapable of realising what they look like to the world outside the self-contradictory leftist bubble.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47233605

f**k me sideways. How f**king STUPID can you be? That's the Tories' posters designed for the next Election.

Sandy Lane

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Re: Brexit deal
« Reply #1565 on February 14, 2019, 02:46:22 PM by Sandy Lane »
This is an op ed from todayís NY Times with an article on Brexit.  I for one canít keep up on it or keep everything straight, and you folks are actually living it, but thought you might like this article.  Hope the link works...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/14/opinion/brexit-may-european-union.html?rref=collection%2Fbyline%2Fdavid-leonhardt&action=click&contentCollection=undefined&region=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=1&pgtype=collection

Axholme Lion

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Re: Brexit deal
« Reply #1566 on February 14, 2019, 02:47:46 PM by Axholme Lion »
In other news. I see Ford has also joined Project Fear today. It's some cabal, trying to deceive us all, int it?

But never mind. A failed politician is here telling us it'll all be ok.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCr4today/status/1094891032951558144

I wonder if there is anyone left in the country who listens to what he says and thinks "Yep! He's got a track record of telling the truth and doing what's best for the country. I'll believe him."

The last I heard was that Ford was ready to chuck in the towel on selling cars in the whole of Europe in any case.

I'm sure there will be an article on that somewhere then...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilwinton/2018/01/21/how-committed-is-ford-motor-to-its-european-operation/#4399fc8120ea

bobjimwilly

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Re: Brexit deal
« Reply #1567 on February 14, 2019, 03:38:16 PM by bobjimwilly »
Meanwhile, the Labour front bench continues to stick it's face out and shout "Free Punch!" because they are utterly incapable of realising what they look like to the world outside the self-contradictory leftist bubble.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47233605

f**k me sideways. How f**king STUPID can you be? That's the Tories' posters designed for the next Election.

Theresa May will go down as the most incompetent PM in history, but Corbyn will go down as the most incompetent leader of any opposition if he can't win a general election against her.

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Brexit deal
« Reply #1568 on February 14, 2019, 04:07:27 PM by BillyStubbsTears »
In other news. I see Ford has also joined Project Fear today. It's some cabal, trying to deceive us all, int it?

But never mind. A failed politician is here telling us it'll all be ok.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCr4today/status/1094891032951558144

I wonder if there is anyone left in the country who listens to what he says and thinks "Yep! He's got a track record of telling the truth and doing what's best for the country. I'll believe him."

The last I heard was that Ford was ready to chuck in the towel on selling cars in the whole of Europe in any case.

I'm sure there will be an article on that somewhere then...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilwinton/2018/01/21/how-committed-is-ford-motor-to-its-european-operation/#4399fc8120ea

So AL. That's an article from over a year ago with a few people last year speculating that Ford might pull out of MAKING cars in Europe and a few other ones speculating that they won't. Is that what you are relying on when you said "The last I heard was that Ford was ready to chuck in the towel on SELLING cars in the whole of Europe in any case."?

Still, I'm sure you're right and this is just another example of this co-ordinated Project Fear approach to con us into staying in the EU when it would clearly be beneficial for us to leave because Rees-Mogg and Johnson and that bloke who sells shit ale have all said so.

tommy toes

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Re: Brexit deal
« Reply #1569 on February 14, 2019, 07:57:03 PM by tommy toes »
May loses another vote and Downing Street blame the Labour Party ...err what about the Tory abstainers?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-47245992

SydneyRover

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« Reply #1570 on February 14, 2019, 09:09:59 PM by SydneyRover »
May loses another vote and Downing Street blame the Labour Party ...err what about the Tory abstainers?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-47245992
TT, not sure why this vote was needed as it only confirms that May has one foot permanently jammed down the bog, the ERG I assume abstained as it demonstrates their hold over and ability to toy with her without damaging themselves.

SydneyRover

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Re: Brexit deal
« Reply #1571 on February 15, 2019, 11:40:32 AM by SydneyRover »
Brexit has cost $80 Billion so far, phew I thought it was going to be bad news!

''Cost of Brexit to UK economy running at £40bn a year Ė Bank rate-setter''

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/feb/14/brexit-has-cost-uk-economy-at-least-80bn-since-vote-bank-of-england-rate-setter

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Brexit deal
« Reply #1572 on February 15, 2019, 02:20:53 PM by BillyStubbsTears »
Yeah but he's got a foreign name.

Project Fear.

SydneyRover

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Re: Brexit deal
« Reply #1573 on February 15, 2019, 07:44:57 PM by SydneyRover »
''Many people in my community feel used. We were taken as fools by the leave campaign who, once they got what they needed, have deserted us.

But people in my community are not stupid. If I helped bring about Brexit, I will now work twice as hard to secure a peopleís vote so that, together, we can help put this right''

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/feb/14/brexit-has-cost-uk-economy-at-least-80bn-since-vote-bank-of-england-rate-setter

wilts rover

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Re: Brexit deal
« Reply #1574 on February 16, 2019, 08:51:38 AM by wilts rover »
Interesting poll:

37% of people think the country will be better off and 20% think they personally will be better off after Brexit. What do they know that the bloke in sydney's post doesn't?

https://www.orb-international.com/2019/02/05/brexitfeb2019/

SydneyRover

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Re: Brexit deal
« Reply #1575 on February 16, 2019, 09:50:12 AM by SydneyRover »
Interesting poll:

37% of people think the country will be better off and 20% think they personally will be better off after Brexit. What do they know that the bloke in sydney's post doesn't?

https://www.orb-international.com/2019/02/05/brexitfeb2019/
They probably read the Daily Mail Wilts, someone does.

SydneyRover

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Re: Brexit deal
« Reply #1576 on February 16, 2019, 10:52:38 AM by SydneyRover »
''The trip from London to Lincolnshire showed me the Brexit divideís depth''

An interesting view on the state of things and why there is a stalemate with a possible way forward, a variation of this approach is also being used in the middle east to try to bring Palestinians and Israelis closer together.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/feb/16/trip-london-lincolnshire-brexit-divide

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Brexit deal
« Reply #1577 on February 16, 2019, 11:00:23 AM by BillyStubbsTears »
What? Build a wall round Boston? I'd be up for that.

DonnyOsmond

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Re: Brexit deal
« Reply #1578 on February 18, 2019, 07:39:17 PM by DonnyOsmond »
Now Honda pissing off. Why stay in a country which will be requiring tariffs for trade with Europe, when you could make everything in Japan with no tariffs for European trade?

#ProjectFear

bpoolrover

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Re: Brexit deal
« Reply #1579 on February 18, 2019, 07:57:36 PM by bpoolrover »
Are you sure this has anything to do with brexit I have a few friends there and they say not, that is there word ms maybe just opinion.

bobjimwilly

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« Reply #1580 on February 18, 2019, 08:07:40 PM by bobjimwilly »
Are you sure this has anything to do with brexit I have a few friends there and they say not, that is there word ms maybe just opinion.

You have friends at Honda, Nissan, Ford, Panasonic, Sony and Dyson?

bobjimwilly

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Re: Brexit deal
« Reply #1581 on February 18, 2019, 08:08:00 PM by bobjimwilly »

bpoolrover

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Re: Brexit deal
« Reply #1582 on February 18, 2019, 08:15:00 PM by bpoolrover »
No bob just at Honda

DonnyOsmond

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« Reply #1583 on February 18, 2019, 08:49:53 PM by DonnyOsmond »
Japan have just got a trade deal with Europe which allows them tariff free trade. Maybe if a deal with Europe was done or we were staying in it'd allow for greater manufacture for Honda but why would they keep manufacturing and exporting in a country that with our current uncertainty will probably end up paying tariffs to export to Europe?

drfchound

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« Reply #1584 on February 18, 2019, 09:17:35 PM by drfchound »
I wonder how many of the people losing their jobs at Honda voted to Leave the EU.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #1585 on February 18, 2019, 09:32:37 PM by BillyStubbsTears »
Collateral damage Hound.

They've done their job. Served their purpose. They can be dispensed with now.

Not Now Kato

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« Reply #1586 on February 18, 2019, 09:34:44 PM by Not Now Kato »
Japan have just got a trade deal with Europe which allows them tariff free trade. Maybe if a deal with Europe was done or we were staying in it'd allow for greater manufacture for Honda but why would they keep manufacturing and exporting in a country that with our current uncertainty will probably end up paying tariffs to export to Europe?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/18/japan-almost-cancelled-brexit-talks-high-handed-letter-liam-fox-jeremy-hunt
 
From the article....
 
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To add to Britainís frustration, Japan has reportedly ruled out simply replicating the terms of a Japan-EU trade agreement that went into effect at the start of this month but which will be unavailable to the UK after Brexit. Instead, it will seek tougher concessions from Britain than it secured from the EU.

The lunatics running the asylum are still hard at it!   :turd:

wilts rover

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« Reply #1587 on February 18, 2019, 09:39:08 PM by wilts rover »
Of all the promises that the Brexiteers made us that have yet to come true 'Honda backs Brexit Britain' and will continue to make its car here now matter what the outcome - has suddenly shot up the list...

https://www.westmonster.com/honda-to-keep-producing-cars-in-swindon-whatever-the-brexit-outcome/

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« Reply #1588 on February 18, 2019, 09:43:18 PM by Glyn_Wigley »
Of all the promises that the Brexiteers made us that have yet to come true 'Honda backs Brexit Britain' and will continue to make its car here now matter what the outcome - has suddenly shot up the list...

https://www.westmonster.com/honda-to-keep-producing-cars-in-swindon-whatever-the-brexit-outcome/

You can't help but love the last line of that!

big fat yorkshire pudding

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« Reply #1589 on February 18, 2019, 10:22:20 PM by big fat yorkshire pudding »
But, as I believe will be clear in their statement, they'd move it Brexit or not.