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BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #870 on December 10, 2019, 09:37:22 AM by BillyStubbsTears »
One final note to those of you folk who passionately want Brexit and who think Johnson is on your side.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/2gvE3Pa8Gv/Boris_Johnson_battles

The story of Johnson’s role in the Leave campaign has been told too often to need much retelling here.

There were the two newspaper columns he wrote, one for leaving and one against. The friends (or former friends) like Roland Rudd, the financial PR man who now chairs the People’s Vote campaign, who told me bitterly how Johnson pledged his devotion to the Remain side shortly before announcing the opposite.

Sir Craig Oliver, then director of communications in Downing Street under David Cameron, testifies to a poetic text message from Johnson predicting Brexit would be crushed “like the toad beneath the harrow”, sent moments before he came out for the Leave side.


I've been saying this since before the 2016 vote. Brexit was ONLY, EVER about one thing. Johnson's career.

You have facilitated that. He's wooing you one last time. And when you've done the job for him, he will chew you up and spit you out.

And deep down inside, under all the arguments and the front, you know that, don't you? You know that you've been played by someone who utterly, utterly despises you.

Just close your eyes and ponder that for a moment before you vote.

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #871 on December 10, 2019, 09:59:17 AM by Donnywolf »
BST - given he is the most duplicitous b*****d that I have even known in Politics (has there been ANYONE since 1966 that has been worse) ..... do you think he may Get Brexit done to "secure his legacy" and then jump ship leaving whoever takes the poisoned chalice to oversee the things he knows he cant deliver such as NOT selling the NHS Serivices bit by bit and blaming whoever takes over

Or not for the first time am I miles out ?
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GazLaz

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #873 on December 11, 2019, 10:21:38 AM by GazLaz »
I’ve seen the Boris fridge video. It’s completely bizarre. The mans a f**king idiot.

wilts rover

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #874 on December 11, 2019, 05:05:59 PM by wilts rover »
This is the bloke who is going to get a good deal from the EU & Trump's America is it? The man who is frightened of Andrew Neil & Piers Morgan!

SydneyRover

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #875 on December 23, 2019, 02:56:50 AM by SydneyRover »
Still waiting for the release of the 'russian' enquiry and the Acuri self interest probe, will we ever get the full story or will the victors (re)write the history?

''Johnson visit to Lebedev party after victory odd move for 'people's PM'

PM mingled with Russian elite amid claims of Moscow interference in UK politics''

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/22/johnson-visit-to-lebedev-party-after-victory-odd-move-for-peoples-pm

Sprotyrover

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #876 on December 23, 2019, 11:08:44 AM by Sprotyrover »
Grow up children! Your very own puppet faced sausage roll legged Rebecca
Long Bailey has just been caught lying when she reminisced about her Dad a dock worker coming. Home from the docks worrying about redundancies...NOT BAD FOR SOMEONE UnDER 2 AND IN NAPPIES.

SydneyRover

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #877 on December 23, 2019, 11:04:34 PM by SydneyRover »
Ad-hominem, strange how most of the attacks come from the right, couldn't be playing follow-my-leader could we  :)

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #878 on December 23, 2019, 11:13:31 PM by BillyStubbsTears »
Grow up children! Your very own puppet faced sausage roll legged Rebecca
Long Bailey has just been caught lying when she reminisced about her Dad a dock worker coming. Home from the docks worrying about redundancies...NOT BAD FOR SOMEONE UnDER 2 AND IN NAPPIES.

You had problems relating to women in your life Sproty?

Sprotyrover

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #879 on December 24, 2019, 12:59:37 PM by Sprotyrover »
Grow up children! Your very own puppet faced sausage roll legged Rebecca
Long Bailey has just been caught lying when she reminisced about her Dad a dock worker coming. Home from the docks worrying about redundancies...NOT BAD FOR SOMEONE UnDER 2 AND IN NAPPIES.

You had problems relating to women in your life Sproty?
You got problems with reality, you spend 12 months slagging Corbyn off on this forum then the election pops up and the'Worm' turns,suddenly he is
 The messiah! Oh I wished I had been audience to the bollockings you got from the Left wing voters you tried to canvas,Left wing Labour voters with views slightly to the right of Ghengis Khan😂😂😂😂
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BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #880 on December 24, 2019, 01:07:51 PM by BillyStubbsTears »
I'll take that as a "yes" then.

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #881 on December 30, 2019, 01:10:57 PM by foxbat »
Johnson & his latest squeeze on the island of Mustique are staying at a villa that costs £40,000/wk
It has 4 swimming pools and an infinity pool.

Knowing this will no doubt bring joy to the hearts of his forelock tuggers in Donny & the right wing.fogeys in the home counties.

wilts rover

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« Reply #882 on December 30, 2019, 01:30:53 PM by wilts rover »
Rejecting the hospitality of his taxpayer funded British holiday mansion for that of the Von Bismarck family I notice.

Looks like at least one Tory has forgiven the Germans for 2 world wars, so maybe we will be staying in Europe after all...

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #883 on December 30, 2019, 03:01:15 PM by Ldr »
Johnson & his latest squeeze on the island of Mustique are staying at a villa that costs £40,000/wk
It has 4 swimming pools and an infinity pool.

Knowing this will no doubt bring joy to the hearts of his forelock tuggers in Donny & the right wing.fogeys in the home counties.

Grasping straws  now comrade

SydneyRover

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #884 on December 31, 2019, 05:27:40 AM by SydneyRover »
''Boris Johnson to raise minimum wage by four times inflation

Employees over 25 will receive a 6.2% pay rise equating to £930 a year for full-time worker,
rates will also rise above inflation across all other age groups, including by 6.5% for 21-24-year-olds to £8.20, by 4.9% to £6.45 for 18-20-year-olds, by 4.6% to £4.55 for under-18s and 6.4% to £4.15 for apprentices''

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/dec/31/boris-johnson-to-raise-minimum-wages-by-four-times-inflation

What a shame the tories wasted so much money with the Austrerity b*llocks, could have given a whole lot more over a longer period  :)

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #885 on December 31, 2019, 09:37:58 AM by big fat yorkshire pudding »
Too high a jump that at short notice and a bad move unless theres something done about business rates etc.

SydneyRover

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #886 on December 31, 2019, 09:04:33 PM by SydneyRover »
Business will benefit by the boost most people will spent every penny.

Glyn_Wigley

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #887 on January 01, 2020, 10:04:24 AM by Glyn_Wigley »
Business will benefit by the boost most people will spent every penny.

Only if it's not swallowed up by the higher costs of trade with the EU.

SydneyRover

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #888 on January 01, 2020, 10:41:44 AM by SydneyRover »
So true Glyn, unfortunately

Sprotyrover

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« Reply #889 on January 01, 2020, 04:42:27 PM by Sprotyrover »
So true Glyn, unfortunately
The Govt can offset that by using the extra revenue generated by Tarriffs, there is only one looser in a Tarriff trade was that is the side with more to loose and that ain't us!.

wilts rover

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #890 on January 01, 2020, 05:13:24 PM by wilts rover »
So true Glyn, unfortunately
The Govt can offset that by using the extra revenue generated by Tarriffs, there is only one looser in a Tarriff trade was that is the side with more to loose and that ain't us!.

Really?

44% of UK trade is with the EU
8% of EU trade is with the UK

Lets hope Johnson's maths is better than yours because that is an awful lot of UK jobs and tax income dependent on EU trade and not very many EU jobs or tax income dependent on UK trade.

https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-eu-trade/

Dont wait too long for the income from your tariff war either. The government has already said it will have 0% tariff on most imports after Brexit. Whereas the EU will impose tariffs on most UK exports unless there is a deal.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/temporary-tariff-regime-updated

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #891 on January 01, 2020, 05:24:40 PM by BillyStubbsTears »
Sproty.

You don't seem to grasp who pays tarrifs.

It's not the seller. It's the buyer...

Glyn_Wigley

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #892 on January 01, 2020, 05:55:57 PM by Glyn_Wigley »
Sproty.

You don't seem to grasp who pays tarrifs.

It's not the seller. It's the buyer...

And both ways, importing and exporting.

Glyn_Wigley

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #893 on January 01, 2020, 05:57:31 PM by Glyn_Wigley »
So true Glyn, unfortunately
The Govt can offset that by using the extra revenue generated by Tarriffs, there is only one looser in a Tarriff trade was that is the side with more to loose and that ain't us!.

Oh do enlighten us exactly how they'll offset the price rises. I love a good fairy story.

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #894 on January 01, 2020, 10:25:24 PM by hoolahoop »
So true Glyn, unfortunately
The Govt can offset that by using the extra revenue generated by Tarriffs, there is only one looser in a Tarriff trade was that is the side with more to loose and that ain't us!.

Oh do enlighten us exactly how they'll offset the price rises. I love a good fairy story.

Once again Sproty trots out the " tariff lie " that he , like many 100,000's have swallowed hook , line and sinker. The ONLY  loser with tariffs are those that purchase the most and that happens to be us the consumer in the UK

Sprotyrover

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #895 on January 02, 2020, 07:34:51 AM by Sprotyrover »
So we un cheaper meat from Australia and NZ like we did in the 70's and we buy our our products rather than theirs!

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #896 on January 02, 2020, 07:55:05 AM by SydneyRover »
The beef from Australia is pre-bbq'd too Sprot  :)

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #897 on January 02, 2020, 09:37:25 AM by BillyStubbsTears »
Jesus wept.

Glyn_Wigley

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« Reply #898 on January 02, 2020, 10:23:56 AM by Glyn_Wigley »
So we un cheaper meat from Australia and NZ like we did in the 70's and we buy our our products rather than theirs!

And how, exactly, is that an example of the government offsetting anything?

Apart from the obvious answer that it's nothing of the kind.

PS Do you seriously think Australia and New Zealand are still as stuck in the 1970s as you are?

PPS I've just looked up Australian beef prices. The 'cheap meat' seems to be a myth. Twenty years ago it was cheap - an average wholesale price of about £1.20 a kilo. Now it's about £4.60 a kilo. That's without transport costs, importing costs and everybody inbetween adding on their slice of profit on top.
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Sprotyrover

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #899 on January 02, 2020, 05:33:29 PM by Sprotyrover »
So we un cheaper meat from Australia and NZ like we did in the 70's and we buy our our products rather than theirs!

And how, exactly, is that an example of the government offsetting anything?

Apart from the obvious answer that it's nothing of the kind.

PS Do you seriously think Australia and New Zealand are still as stuck in the 1970s as you are?

PPS I've just looked up Australian beef prices. The 'cheap meat' seems to be a myth. Twenty years ago it was cheap - an average wholesale price of about £1.20 a kilo. Now it's about £4.60 a kilo. That's without transport costs, importing costs and everybody inbetween adding on their slice of profit on top.
On reading your post Glynn I went on line and found this

from The Irish Times

What is the new South American beef deal that will affect Ireland?
Mercosur deal has been accused for ‘selling out’ Irish farmers

Mon, Jul 1, 2019, 13:20 Updated: Mon, Jul 1, 2019, 17:38
Basically the Eu is attempting to buy beef from the Mercosur Nations, Brazil,Paraguay,Uruguay etc. This has cause concern in Eire where they will have to compete with Beef which is 50% cheaper per KG than Irish beef...
Thank you and goodnight!