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Bristol Red Rover

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #16500 on June 29, 2022, 09:26:32 pm by Bristol Red Rover »
... most people did the sensible thing. That gave space for you to do what you wanted.
That's very generous of them. Fingers crossed the not fully known long term side effects of the various vaccines won't be stacking up when it comes to any of our needs for beds or specialist care in the future.



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wilts rover

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« Reply #16501 on June 29, 2022, 10:18:20 pm by wilts rover »
... most people did the sensible thing. That gave space for you to do what you wanted.
That's very generous of them. Fingers crossed the not fully known long term side effects of the various vaccines won't be stacking up when it comes to any of our needs for beds or specialist care in the future.

Quite a few of which are taken up by people with Post Covid Syndrom (Log Covid)

Post-COVID-19 syndrome involves a variety of new, returning or ongoing symptoms that people experience more than four weeks after getting COVID-19. In some people, post-COVID-19 syndrome lasts months or years or causes disability.

Research suggests that between one month and one year after having COVID-19, 1 in 5 people ages 18 to 64 has at least one medical condition that might be due to COVID-19. Among people age 65 and older, 1 in 4 has at least one medical condition that might be due to COVID-19.
What are the symptoms of post-COVID-19 syndrome?

The most commonly reported symptoms of post-COVID-19 syndrome include:

    Fatigue
    Symptoms that get worse after physical or mental effort
    Fever
    Lung (respiratory) symptoms, including difficulty breathing or shortness of breath and cough

Other possible symptoms include:

    Neurological symptoms or mental health conditions, including difficulty thinking or concentrating, headache, sleep problems, dizziness when you stand, pins-and-needles feeling, loss of smell or taste, and depression or anxiety
    Joint or muscle pain
    Heart symptoms or conditions, including chest pain and fast or pounding heartbeat
    Digestive symptoms, including diarrhea and stomach pain
    Blood clots and blood vessel (vascular) issues, including a blood clot that travels to the lungs from deep veins in the legs and blocks blood flow to the lungs (pulmonary embolism)
    Other symptoms, such as a rash and changes in the menstrual cycle

Having had two trips to the RUH, one for brain scans for head pains I am still experiencing 2 1/2  years later, the other for a ride in an ambulance - I'll take my chances with the vaccine thanks.

SydneyRover

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« Reply #16502 on July 01, 2022, 07:10:53 am by SydneyRover »
With little fanfare the .......

''Delayed public inquiry into UK’s Covid-19 response opens
Launch comes days after campaigners for bereaved threatened legal action over government delays''

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/28/delayed-public-inquiry-into-uks-covid-19-response-opens

This should answer a few if not all those tricky questions

selby

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« Reply #16503 on July 01, 2022, 09:43:45 am by selby »
https://www.bmj.com/content/376/bmj.o158.full
   Makes interesting reading

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #16504 on July 01, 2022, 09:47:22 am by BillyStubbsTears »
In what way?

selby

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« Reply #16505 on July 01, 2022, 09:53:08 am by selby »
  Your the smart one, figure it out yourself, I have things to do this morning unlike you and Syd, and I am retired not running a company.

Ldr

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« Reply #16506 on July 01, 2022, 10:07:51 am by Ldr »
Very interesting Selby, thanks for sharing

Bristol Red Rover

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« Reply #16507 on July 01, 2022, 09:19:39 pm by Bristol Red Rover »

....Having had two trips to the RUH, one for brain scans for head pains I am still experiencing 2 1/2  years later, the other for a ride in an ambulance....
Sorry to hear this Wilts, sounds awful :(

Bristol Red Rover

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« Reply #16508 on July 01, 2022, 09:24:56 pm by Bristol Red Rover »
https://www.bmj.com/content/376/bmj.o158.full
   Makes interesting reading
I'm missing what's interesting? Most viral infections can have some kind of lasting effect, most of which were seen as all in the mind back in the day. Is there any kind of ability to deal with it with orthodox medicine? Nothing notable I've heard for long term effects of any viral infections never mind covid.

wilts rover

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« Reply #16509 on July 01, 2022, 09:59:23 pm by wilts rover »

....Having had two trips to the RUH, one for brain scans for head pains I am still experiencing 2 1/2  years later, the other for a ride in an ambulance....
Sorry to hear this Wilts, sounds awful :(

It was mate, I wouldn't wish it on anyone. They never could say what it was, just rule things out. As you say there is nothing they can give me for it other than pain killers which I am loathe to take.

I find exercise helps a lot, whether that is because I am creating adreline or just taking my mind off it I dont know.

Like you I never used to take vaccines other than what I needed for travel. Never had the flu vaccine even tho I was on the list for it. Now I have everything.

People make their own choices but my advice is take steps not to catch a virus the first place and/or take what is on offer to mitigate the effects of it.

SydneyRover

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« Reply #16510 on July 04, 2022, 06:13:37 am by SydneyRover »
Another near miss, the daughter-in-laws mum flew in from the UK on Thurs and we had arranged for a get-together on Sat. I suggested it was a bit close to our trip which is only 4-5 weeks away and we should instead meet just the family today Monday. Of course, we had a call yesterday to say they all had covid except for the g-kids. Nothing serious, so far they have mild symptoms and appear to be improving already.

SydneyRover

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« Reply #16511 on July 08, 2022, 01:47:13 am by SydneyRover »
Good Law Project: Abingdon Health: A cover-up

''In April, Government announced that they supported the creation of the UK Rapid Test Consortium (UK-RTC). The idea was that the companies and institutions involved would create a rapid antibody test. On 2nd June, Government awarded a contract worth £10 million to Abingdon Health for the materials needed to produce the test. On 14th August, they handed Abingdon Health another contract worth a staggering £75 million.

Despite these huge sums of money, Government seems to have ignored widely held concerns that tests were not fit for purpose. So a £75million contract was awarded without competition, on the basis of profoundly flawed research. And when confronted with evidence of these flaws Government tried to suppress publication of that evidence''

https://goodlawproject.org/case/abingdon-health/

There needs to be an algorithmic 'dye' that can be attached to public money that cannot be removed to allow it to be followed.


''Abingdon Health floated in December 2020 at 96p-per-share, raising £22m as it listed on the Alternative Investment Market (AIM)''


''The life sciences company won two lucrative Government contracts to produce a rapid antibody test but those agreements are now subject to a legal challenge by the Good Law Project about the way the deals were agreed.

Abingdon Health says the Department for Health and Social Care (DHSC) has now said it won’t pay the £6.7m plus interest it owes until after the judicial review proceedings are complete, even if Abingdon takes legal action to recover the money.

The company has been forced to reduce its workforce by 60 in the last four months, with 130 people now left at its York and Doncaster sites. It said “the pressure on cash flow will increase the longer that payment by DHSC is outstanding”.

Abingdon Health’s chairman Dr Chris Hand said: “We stepped up to what was asked of us at a time of national emergency

“Some of our employees have unfortunately lost their jobs as a direct consequence of the DHSC not paying for products they have taken delivery of, are using and told us were passed for payment in January 2021.”

https://www.thebusinessdesk.com/yorkshire/news/2079968-manufacturers-shares-plunge-20-as-post-ipo-misery-continues




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no eyed deer

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« Reply #16512 on July 12, 2022, 01:27:02 am by no eyed deer »
Not be long before the usual suspects start tell us what we should and shouldn't be doing with out lives again.


SydneyRover

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« Reply #16513 on July 12, 2022, 01:54:24 am by SydneyRover »
Estimated reinfection times reduced from 12 weeks to 4.

SydneyRover

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« Reply #16514 on July 12, 2022, 05:26:23 am by SydneyRover »
COVID-19 cruise ship Covid Princess to dock in NSW as testing policy changes

''Queensland Health said 118 people on board the Carnival Australia ship, Coral Princess, had tested positive to the virus since it left Brisbane on Sunday.

Of those cases, 114 are crew members and four are passengers.

The ship with more than 2,300 guests and crew onboard, is due to dock in Eden on the NSW South Coast today, the first cruise liner to return to the town since COVID-19 shut the industry down two years ago.

The ship is also scheduled to be in Sydney for one day on Wednesday''

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-12/covid-19-cruise-ship-docks-nsw-as-isolation-requirements-change/101229312


Nudga

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« Reply #16515 on July 12, 2022, 07:25:03 am by Nudga »
And all those on board will be vaxxed up to the eye balls

ravenrover

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« Reply #16516 on July 12, 2022, 09:26:16 am by ravenrover »
As is their choice

turnbull for england

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« Reply #16517 on July 12, 2022, 09:50:56 am by turnbull for england »
And all those on board will be vaxxed up to the eye balls

Which hopefully means they all are reasonably ok , given the vaccine doesn't stop you getting it

Nudga

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« Reply #16518 on July 12, 2022, 12:12:36 pm by Nudga »
And all those on board will be vaxxed up to the eye balls

Which hopefully means they all are reasonably ok , given the vaccine doesn't stop you getting it

Aye, but that's not what the sales pitch said to begin with.
Plus it makes a complete mockery of the vaccine passport.
Ive had covid, shook it off quickly, had one day off work, no long covid but I still can't go to America, Canada or Australia.

i_ateallthepies

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« Reply #16519 on July 12, 2022, 12:15:40 pm by i_ateallthepies »
And all those on board will be vaxxed up to the eye balls

Which hopefully means they all are reasonably ok , given the vaccine doesn't stop you getting it

Aye, but that's not what the sales pitch said to begin with.
Plus it makes a complete mockery of the vaccine passport.
Ive had covid, shook it off quickly, had one day off work, no long covid but I still can't go to America, Canada or Australia.

They've provably seen some of your pearls of wisdom on here, Nudga.

SydneyRover

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« Reply #16520 on July 12, 2022, 12:21:31 pm by SydneyRover »
Fortunately the great majority do shake it off nudga and in the beginning scientists would have been thinking that this disease would track in a similar way to others before it, as the evidence changed so did the advice. Vaccines have saved countless lives, as they have done for other diseases.

SydneyRover

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« Reply #16521 on July 12, 2022, 12:28:41 pm by SydneyRover »

SydneyRover

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« Reply #16522 on July 15, 2022, 08:59:53 am by SydneyRover »
Going from knowing noone personally with covid to our opposite number 'inlaw' most likely getting it on the plane on the way over and giving it to the family (not us) to my sister-in-law flying from here, getting it in Iceland and then giving it to the other family branch in Sweden. Shows how case numbers are growing.

Bristol Red Rover

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« Reply #16523 on July 15, 2022, 10:58:00 am by Bristol Red Rover »
Fortunately the great majority do shake it off nudga and in the beginning scientists would have been thinking that this disease would track in a similar way to others before it, as the evidence changed so did the advice. Vaccines have saved countless lives, as they have done for other diseases.
Half truths have to be challenged Syds. Vaccines have also killed and maimed countless lives. They've also made a ton of cash for corporations and the hangers on. We can argue about the numbers of lives saved v lives lost and harmed. You pays your money and makes your choice.

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« Reply #16524 on July 15, 2022, 11:03:52 am by SydneyRover »
Fortunately the great majority do shake it off nudga and in the beginning scientists would have been thinking that this disease would track in a similar way to others before it, as the evidence changed so did the advice. Vaccines have saved countless lives, as they have done for other diseases.
Half truths have to be challenged Syds. Vaccines have also killed and maimed countless lives. They've also made a ton of cash for corporations and the hangers on. We can argue about the numbers of lives saved v lives lost and harmed. You pays your money and makes your choice.

All for that BRR, you'd better define countless.

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« Reply #16525 on July 15, 2022, 11:14:32 am by SydneyRover »
might be something in here ............. the title gives a hint

''The global impact of disproportionate vaccination coverage on COVID-19 mortality''


https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(22)00417-0/fulltext

Bristol Red Rover

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« Reply #16526 on July 15, 2022, 12:32:37 pm by Bristol Red Rover »
Estimates. We know about the estimates around covid, how they have changed massively. We're still v much learning about it. We also know there is a huge imbalance in research in covid due to invested interests. It's one of the biggest economies on earth right now, esp when linked with the rna vaccine programme on other diseases.

Re other illnesses, there are many graphs showing how mortality from illnesses is barely effected if at all with the intro of vaccines. Graphs worldwide based on gov stats - I've check original sources on the UK ones about 40 years back, and they haven't changed. I'll update this post later with a link if you've never looked at these?

Damages, I've seen them first hand. There are deaths too. See UK and US compensations which are obviously the tip of the iceberg.

Like I said, we can argue on this, have our opinions. Info is out there. It's all about pros and cons. The pros are exaggerated, the cons hushed up. No conspiracy, just common sense when dealing with what is one of the biggest industries on the planet.

As they say, you don't get owt for nowt.

SydneyRover

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« Reply #16527 on July 15, 2022, 12:34:26 pm by SydneyRover »
That's all very good BRR but not what we were discussing and doesn't define countless

Bristol Red Rover

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« Reply #16528 on July 15, 2022, 12:36:27 pm by Bristol Red Rover »
That's all very good BRR but not what we were discussing and doesn't define countless
Not sure then that you grasped what I said. You said countless saved, and I discussed that. I also made it clear, that there are two sides on the scale, you only referred to one.

SydneyRover

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« Reply #16529 on July 15, 2022, 12:38:00 pm by SydneyRover »
Did you read the link I posted?

 

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