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Quote from: Ldr on December 15, 2021, 07:57:28 pmSeems to me certain people find a comfort in being scared, ridiculous as it soundsStill on that line?
Seems to me certain people find a comfort in being scared, ridiculous as it sounds
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on December 15, 2021, 08:05:45 pmQuote from: Ldr on December 15, 2021, 07:57:28 pmSeems to me certain people find a comfort in being scared, ridiculous as it soundsStill on that line?Always on the truth mate. How you feeling? Still no symptoms?
Quote from: Ldr on December 15, 2021, 08:19:32 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on December 15, 2021, 08:05:45 pmQuote from: Ldr on December 15, 2021, 07:57:28 pmSeems to me certain people find a comfort in being scared, ridiculous as it soundsStill on that line?Always on the truth mate. How you feeling? Still no symptoms?None thanks. And I'm not massively concerned for me. But it's not just about being concerned for yourself, is it?
OK, next one. If all these people have had their jabs of hope and all these people have had covid and thousands upon thousands of people are testing positive for Covid every day, why are we not at herd immunity yet?
Quote from: wilts rover on December 15, 2021, 07:34:04 pmQuote from: Nudga on December 15, 2021, 07:23:31 pmNot at all, you're twisting things again.OK, maybe I'll put it a different way. Non of my vax free friends have been ill with this "bas**rd". Quite a few of my vaxxed family and friends have had covid after their jab of hope. Non of them died, non of them went to hospital.And not just them Billy, I've said before that I'm in and out of customers houses and I'm hearing similar stories.I've evaded the Original strain, the Kent scarient, the Delta scarient, the Omicron scarient, the f**kin Megatron scarient and all little bas**rd scarients in-between. Just been discussing things with the doc this evening. Seeing as how you have the same medical qualifications and knowledge as him - can you guarantee I will still be here in March?And everyone else in the forum?Or is it only yourself you are bothered about?I don't know your medical history, I don't know if you're fat etcBut you've had your arms jabbed with hope three times so you'll be OK won't you.Won't you?
Quote from: Nudga on December 15, 2021, 07:23:31 pmNot at all, you're twisting things again.OK, maybe I'll put it a different way. Non of my vax free friends have been ill with this "bas**rd". Quite a few of my vaxxed family and friends have had covid after their jab of hope. Non of them died, non of them went to hospital.And not just them Billy, I've said before that I'm in and out of customers houses and I'm hearing similar stories.I've evaded the Original strain, the Kent scarient, the Delta scarient, the Omicron scarient, the f**kin Megatron scarient and all little bas**rd scarients in-between. Just been discussing things with the doc this evening. Seeing as how you have the same medical qualifications and knowledge as him - can you guarantee I will still be here in March?And everyone else in the forum?Or is it only yourself you are bothered about?
Not at all, you're twisting things again.OK, maybe I'll put it a different way. Non of my vax free friends have been ill with this "bas**rd". Quite a few of my vaxxed family and friends have had covid after their jab of hope. Non of them died, non of them went to hospital.And not just them Billy, I've said before that I'm in and out of customers houses and I'm hearing similar stories.I've evaded the Original strain, the Kent scarient, the Delta scarient, the Omicron scarient, the f**kin Megatron scarient and all little bas**rd scarients in-between.
Quote from: Nudga on December 15, 2021, 08:20:32 pmOK, next one. If all these people have had their jabs of hope and all these people have had covid and thousands upon thousands of people are testing positive for Covid every day, why are we not at herd immunity yet? 1) Because Omicron has mutations that means it can evade the protection of existing antibodies.2) Because antibody count falls over time after a previous infection or vaccination.Or, yeah, maybe it's all made up by the Bad People.
Quote from: scawsby steve on December 15, 2021, 06:05:34 pmSo the South African doctor who first discovered the Omicron strain has said that the UK is unnecessarily panicking over it, because despite it being extremely virulent, it is also extremely mild, with nowhere near the voracity of the Delta strain.Don't shoot the messenger.It should also be remembered of course that the average age in South Africa is 28, whilst it is 40 in the UK. So for the most part the doctor will be seeing the effect of the virus on younger people than will be affected here.Just something to consider whilst considering.
So the South African doctor who first discovered the Omicron strain has said that the UK is unnecessarily panicking over it, because despite it being extremely virulent, it is also extremely mild, with nowhere near the voracity of the Delta strain.Don't shoot the messenger.
Quote from: Nudga on December 15, 2021, 07:36:41 pmQuote from: wilts rover on December 15, 2021, 07:34:04 pmQuote from: Nudga on December 15, 2021, 07:23:31 pmNot at all, you're twisting things again.OK, maybe I'll put it a different way. Non of my vax free friends have been ill with this "bas**rd". Quite a few of my vaxxed family and friends have had covid after their jab of hope. Non of them died, non of them went to hospital.And not just them Billy, I've said before that I'm in and out of customers houses and I'm hearing similar stories.I've evaded the Original strain, the Kent scarient, the Delta scarient, the Omicron scarient, the f**kin Megatron scarient and all little bas**rd scarients in-between. Just been discussing things with the doc this evening. Seeing as how you have the same medical qualifications and knowledge as him - can you guarantee I will still be here in March?And everyone else in the forum?Or is it only yourself you are bothered about?I don't know your medical history, I don't know if you're fat etcBut you've had your arms jabbed with hope three times so you'll be OK won't you.Won't you? We all die nudga - it would be good to put it off as long as possible.It's not me making claims. I put the questions to you for your expert medical opinion that you feel free to share and seem quite certain about.
Quote from: wilts rover on December 15, 2021, 07:34:04 pmQuote from: Nudga on December 15, 2021, 07:23:31 pmNot at all, you're twisting things again.OK, maybe I'll put it a different way. Non of my vax free friends have been ill with this "bas**rd". Quite a few of my vaxxed family and friends have had covid after their jab of hope. Non of them died, non of them went to hospital.And not just them Billy, I've said before that I'm in and out of customers houses and I'm hearing similar stories.I've evaded the Original strain, the Kent scarient, the Delta scarient, the Omicron scarient, the f**kin Megatron scarient and all little bas**rd scarients in-between. Just been discussing things with the doc this evening. Seeing as how you have the same medical qualifications and knowledge as him - can you guarantee I will still be here in March?And everyone else in the forum?Or is it only yourself you are bothered about?I don't know your medical history, I don't know if you're fat etcBut you've had your arms jabbed with hope three times so you'll be OK won't you.Won't you?
Quote from: Nudga on December 15, 2021, 07:23:31 pmNot at all, you're twisting things again.OK, maybe I'll put it a different way. Non of my vax free friends have been ill with this "bas**rd". Quite a few of my vaxxed family and friends have had covid after their jab of hope. Non of them died, non of them went to hospital.And not just them Billy, I've said before that I'm in and out of customers houses and I'm hearing similar stories.I've evaded the Original strain, the Kent scarient, the Delta scarient, the Omicron scarient, the f**kin Megatron scarient and all little bas**rd scarients in-between. Just been discussing things with the doc this evening. Seeing as how you have the same medical qualifications and knowledge as him - can you guarantee I will still be here in March?And everyone else in the forum?Or is it only yourself you are bothered about?
Not at all, you're twisting things again.OK, maybe I'll put it a different way. Non of my vax free friends have been ill with this "bas**rd". Quite a few of my vaxxed family and friends have had covid after their jab of hope. Non of them died, non of them went to hospital.And not just them Billy, I've said before that I'm in and out of customers houses and I'm hearing similar stories.I've evaded the Original strain, the Kent scarient, the Delta scarient, the Omicron scarient, the f**kin Megatron scarient and all little bas**rd scarients in-between.
Quote from: normal rules on December 15, 2021, 06:41:49 pmBased on doubling cases every 2 days, Theres another 5 doubling occasions that can occur between now and Xmas. 78600 cases today.Do the maths.That’s a lot of cases.A lot of people isolating by Xmas day, and what after that?This will have a huge effect on the national infrastructure. Let alone the nhs.It's not QUITE as bad as that. Omicron still isn't the dominant strain. So Omicron cases are doubling every two days, but the total number isn't doubling every two days. But as Omicron cases explode and a bigger and bigger % of the total cases are Omicron, the rate at which the total number of cases doubles will shorten dramatically.Last week, the total number of daily cases was doubling every 40 days or so. At the moment, that's down to below 20 days. I suspect by the weekend that'll be down into single figures. Then it's anyone's guess.But the Omicron wave is here and it is going to get VERY big, VERY quickly. Some of the more boneheaded ones in here are about to find out what "Living with it" actually means.Good luck everyone. Be sensible and careful.
Based on doubling cases every 2 days, Theres another 5 doubling occasions that can occur between now and Xmas. 78600 cases today.Do the maths.That’s a lot of cases.A lot of people isolating by Xmas day, and what after that?This will have a huge effect on the national infrastructure. Let alone the nhs.
I love the attitude of these big hard bas**rds."I'm so f**king hard I don't worry about the virus...killing other people."
Quote from: wilts rover on December 15, 2021, 07:30:24 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on December 15, 2021, 06:05:34 pmSo the South African doctor who first discovered the Omicron strain has said that the UK is unnecessarily panicking over it, because despite it being extremely virulent, it is also extremely mild, with nowhere near the voracity of the Delta strain.Don't shoot the messenger.It should also be remembered of course that the average age in South Africa is 28, whilst it is 40 in the UK. So for the most part the doctor will be seeing the effect of the virus on younger people than will be affected here.Just something to consider whilst considering.No, she just said the UK is panicking over something that is only mild.Are you saying she's wrong?
Quote from: scawsby steve on December 15, 2021, 06:05:34 pmSo the South African doctor who first discovered the Omicron strain has said that the UK is unnecessarily panicking over it, because despite it being extremely virulent, it is also extremely mild, with nowhere near the voracity of the Delta strain.Don't shoot the messenger.It should also be remembered of course that the average age in South Africa is 28, whilst it is 40 in the UK. So for the most part the doctor will be seeing the effect of the virus on younger people than will be affected here.Just something to consider whilst considering.
So the South African doctor who first discovered the Omicron strain has said that the UK is unnecessarily panicking over it, because despite it being extremely virulent, it is also extremely mild, with nowhere near the voracity of the Delta strain.Don't shoot the messenger.
Quote from: wilts rover on December 15, 2021, 08:29:45 pmQuote from: Nudga on December 15, 2021, 07:36:41 pmQuote from: wilts rover on December 15, 2021, 07:34:04 pmQuote from: Nudga on December 15, 2021, 07:23:31 pmNot at all, you're twisting things again.OK, maybe I'll put it a different way. Non of my vax free friends have been ill with this "bas**rd". Quite a few of my vaxxed family and friends have had covid after their jab of hope. Non of them died, non of them went to hospital.And not just them Billy, I've said before that I'm in and out of customers houses and I'm hearing similar stories.I've evaded the Original strain, the Kent scarient, the Delta scarient, the Omicron scarient, the f**kin Megatron scarient and all little bas**rd scarients in-between. Just been discussing things with the doc this evening. Seeing as how you have the same medical qualifications and knowledge as him - can you guarantee I will still be here in March?And everyone else in the forum?Or is it only yourself you are bothered about?I don't know your medical history, I don't know if you're fat etcBut you've had your arms jabbed with hope three times so you'll be OK won't you.Won't you? We all die nudga - it would be good to put it off as long as possible.It's not me making claims. I put the questions to you for your expert medical opinion that you feel free to share and seem quite certain about.Pretty much opposite to your expert medical opinion.I choose not to shit in my pants daily and live in fear.Try it, it's actually good for your health and mental well being.Toodle pip Chaps.
Quote from: Nudga on December 15, 2021, 07:36:41 pmQuote from: wilts rover on December 15, 2021, 07:34:04 pmQuote from: Nudga on December 15, 2021, 07:23:31 pmNot at all, you're twisting things again.OK, maybe I'll put it a different way. Non of my vax free friends have been ill with this "bas**rd". Quite a few of my vaxxed family and friends have had covid after their jab of hope. Non of them died, non of them went to hospital.And not just them Billy, I've said before that I'm in and out of customers houses and I'm hearing similar stories.I've evaded the Original strain, the Kent scarient, the Delta scarient, the Omicron scarient, the f**kin Megatron scarient and all little bas**rd scarients in-between. Just been discussing things with the doc this evening. Seeing as how you have the same medical qualifications and knowledge as him - can you guarantee I will still be here in March?And everyone else in the forum?Or is it only yourself you are bothered about?I don't know your medical history, I don't know if you're fat etcBut you've had your arms jabbed with hope three times so you'll be OK won't you.Won't you? We all die nudga - it would be good to put it off as long as possible.It's not me making claims. I put the questions to you for your expert medical opinion that you feel free to share and seem quite certain about.
Quote from: wilts rover on December 15, 2021, 07:34:04 pmQuote from: Nudga on December 15, 2021, 07:23:31 pmNot at all, you're twisting things again.OK, maybe I'll put it a different way. Non of my vax free friends have been ill with this "bas**rd". Quite a few of my vaxxed family and friends have had covid after their jab of hope. Non of them died, non of them went to hospital.And not just them Billy, I've said before that I'm in and out of customers houses and I'm hearing similar stories.I've evaded the Original strain, the Kent scarient, the Delta scarient, the Omicron scarient, the f**kin Megatron scarient and all little bas**rd scarients in-between. Just been discussing things with the doc this evening. Seeing as how you have the same medical qualifications and knowledge as him - can you guarantee I will still be here in March?And everyone else in the forum?Or is it only yourself you are bothered about?I don't know your medical history, I don't know if you're fat etcBut you've had your arms jabbed with hope three times so you'll be OK won't you.Won't you?
Quote from: Nudga on December 15, 2021, 07:23:31 pmNot at all, you're twisting things again.OK, maybe I'll put it a different way. Non of my vax free friends have been ill with this "bas**rd". Quite a few of my vaxxed family and friends have had covid after their jab of hope. Non of them died, non of them went to hospital.And not just them Billy, I've said before that I'm in and out of customers houses and I'm hearing similar stories.I've evaded the Original strain, the Kent scarient, the Delta scarient, the Omicron scarient, the f**kin Megatron scarient and all little bas**rd scarients in-between. Just been discussing things with the doc this evening. Seeing as how you have the same medical qualifications and knowledge as him - can you guarantee I will still be here in March?And everyone else in the forum?Or is it only yourself you are bothered about?
Not at all, you're twisting things again.OK, maybe I'll put it a different way. Non of my vax free friends have been ill with this "bas**rd". Quite a few of my vaxxed family and friends have had covid after their jab of hope. Non of them died, non of them went to hospital.And not just them Billy, I've said before that I'm in and out of customers houses and I'm hearing similar stories.I've evaded the Original strain, the Kent scarient, the Delta scarient, the Omicron scarient, the f**kin Megatron scarient and all little bas**rd scarients in-between.
Quote from: Nudga on December 15, 2021, 08:36:18 pmQuote from: wilts rover on December 15, 2021, 08:29:45 pmQuote from: Nudga on December 15, 2021, 07:36:41 pmQuote from: wilts rover on December 15, 2021, 07:34:04 pmQuote from: Nudga on December 15, 2021, 07:23:31 pmNot at all, you're twisting things again.OK, maybe I'll put it a different way. Non of my vax free friends have been ill with this "bas**rd". Quite a few of my vaxxed family and friends have had covid after their jab of hope. Non of them died, non of them went to hospital.And not just them Billy, I've said before that I'm in and out of customers houses and I'm hearing similar stories.I've evaded the Original strain, the Kent scarient, the Delta scarient, the Omicron scarient, the f**kin Megatron scarient and all little bas**rd scarients in-between. Just been discussing things with the doc this evening. Seeing as how you have the same medical qualifications and knowledge as him - can you guarantee I will still be here in March?And everyone else in the forum?Or is it only yourself you are bothered about?I don't know your medical history, I don't know if you're fat etcBut you've had your arms jabbed with hope three times so you'll be OK won't you.Won't you? We all die nudga - it would be good to put it off as long as possible.It's not me making claims. I put the questions to you for your expert medical opinion that you feel free to share and seem quite certain about.Pretty much opposite to your expert medical opinion.I choose not to shit in my pants daily and live in fear.Try it, it's actually good for your health and mental well being.Toodle pip Chaps. I find cycling and listening to music (not at the same time, I just can't get on being out with earphones in) good for my mental wellbeing. I find listening/reading to the words of unqualified conspiracy theorists making up their own facts and ignoring the opinions of highly qualified and experienced scientific and medical experts about a dangerous, highly infectious invisible virus bad for my mental health.As I said, we are all going to die one day nudga - even you. Some people will do that knowing they have done all they can to keep as many people as possible health and safe. Some wont.Have a good evening.
Quote from: wilts rover on December 15, 2021, 08:29:45 pmQuote from: Nudga on December 15, 2021, 07:36:41 pmQuote from: wilts rover on December 15, 2021, 07:34:04 pmQuote from: Nudga on December 15, 2021, 07:23:31 pmNot at all, you're twisting things again.OK, maybe I'll put it a different way. Non of my vax free friends have been ill with this "bas**rd". Quite a few of my vaxxed family and friends have had covid after their jab of hope. Non of them died, non of them went to hospital.And not just them Billy, I've said before that I'm in and out of customers houses and I'm hearing similar stories.I've evaded the Original strain, the Kent scarient, the Delta scarient, the Omicron scarient, the f**kin Megatron scarient and all little bas**rd scarients in-between. Just been discussing things with the doc this evening. Seeing as how you have the same medical qualifications and knowledge as him - can you guarantee I will still be here in March?And everyone else in the forum?Or is it only yourself you are bothered about?I don't know your medical history, I don't know if you're fat etcBut you've had your arms jabbed with hope three times so you'll be OK won't you.Won't you? We all die nudga - it would be good to put it off as long as possible.It's not me making claims. I put the questions to you for your expert medical opinion that you feel free to share and seem quite certain about.Pretty much opposite to your expert medical opinion.I choose not to shit in my pants daily and live in fear.Try it, it's actually good for your health and mental well being.Toodle pip Chaps.
Quote from: Nudga on December 15, 2021, 07:36:41 pmQuote from: wilts rover on December 15, 2021, 07:34:04 pmQuote from: Nudga on December 15, 2021, 07:23:31 pmNot at all, you're twisting things again.OK, maybe I'll put it a different way. Non of my vax free friends have been ill with this "bas**rd". Quite a few of my vaxxed family and friends have had covid after their jab of hope. Non of them died, non of them went to hospital.And not just them Billy, I've said before that I'm in and out of customers houses and I'm hearing similar stories.I've evaded the Original strain, the Kent scarient, the Delta scarient, the Omicron scarient, the f**kin Megatron scarient and all little bas**rd scarients in-between. Just been discussing things with the doc this evening. Seeing as how you have the same medical qualifications and knowledge as him - can you guarantee I will still be here in March?And everyone else in the forum?Or is it only yourself you are bothered about?I don't know your medical history, I don't know if you're fat etcBut you've had your arms jabbed with hope three times so you'll be OK won't you.Won't you? We all die nudga - it would be good to put it off as long as possible.It's not me making claims. I put the questions to you for your expert medical opinion that you feel free to share and seem quite certain about.
Quote from: wilts rover on December 15, 2021, 07:34:04 pmQuote from: Nudga on December 15, 2021, 07:23:31 pmNot at all, you're twisting things again.OK, maybe I'll put it a different way. Non of my vax free friends have been ill with this "bas**rd". Quite a few of my vaxxed family and friends have had covid after their jab of hope. Non of them died, non of them went to hospital.And not just them Billy, I've said before that I'm in and out of customers houses and I'm hearing similar stories.I've evaded the Original strain, the Kent scarient, the Delta scarient, the Omicron scarient, the f**kin Megatron scarient and all little bas**rd scarients in-between. Just been discussing things with the doc this evening. Seeing as how you have the same medical qualifications and knowledge as him - can you guarantee I will still be here in March?And everyone else in the forum?Or is it only yourself you are bothered about?I don't know your medical history, I don't know if you're fat etcBut you've had your arms jabbed with hope three times so you'll be OK won't you.Won't you?
Quote from: Nudga on December 15, 2021, 07:23:31 pmNot at all, you're twisting things again.OK, maybe I'll put it a different way. Non of my vax free friends have been ill with this "bas**rd". Quite a few of my vaxxed family and friends have had covid after their jab of hope. Non of them died, non of them went to hospital.And not just them Billy, I've said before that I'm in and out of customers houses and I'm hearing similar stories.I've evaded the Original strain, the Kent scarient, the Delta scarient, the Omicron scarient, the f**kin Megatron scarient and all little bas**rd scarients in-between. Just been discussing things with the doc this evening. Seeing as how you have the same medical qualifications and knowledge as him - can you guarantee I will still be here in March?And everyone else in the forum?Or is it only yourself you are bothered about?
Not at all, you're twisting things again.OK, maybe I'll put it a different way. Non of my vax free friends have been ill with this "bas**rd". Quite a few of my vaxxed family and friends have had covid after their jab of hope. Non of them died, non of them went to hospital.And not just them Billy, I've said before that I'm in and out of customers houses and I'm hearing similar stories.I've evaded the Original strain, the Kent scarient, the Delta scarient, the Omicron scarient, the f**kin Megatron scarient and all little bas**rd scarients in-between.
Quote from: Nudga on December 15, 2021, 08:36:18 pmQuote from: wilts rover on December 15, 2021, 08:29:45 pmQuote from: Nudga on December 15, 2021, 07:36:41 pmQuote from: wilts rover on December 15, 2021, 07:34:04 pmQuote from: Nudga on December 15, 2021, 07:23:31 pmNot at all, you're twisting things again.OK, maybe I'll put it a different way. Non of my vax free friends have been ill with this "bas**rd". Quite a few of my vaxxed family and friends have had covid after their jab of hope. Non of them died, non of them went to hospital.And not just them Billy, I've said before that I'm in and out of customers houses and I'm hearing similar stories.I've evaded the Original strain, the Kent scarient, the Delta scarient, the Omicron scarient, the f**kin Megatron scarient and all little bas**rd scarients in-between. Just been discussing things with the doc this evening. Seeing as how you have the same medical qualifications and knowledge as him - can you guarantee I will still be here in March?And everyone else in the forum?Or is it only yourself you are bothered about?I don't know your medical history, I don't know if you're fat etcBut you've had your arms jabbed with hope three times so you'll be OK won't you.Won't you? We all die nudga - it would be good to put it off as long as possible.It's not me making claims. I put the questions to you for your expert medical opinion that you feel free to share and seem quite certain about.Pretty much opposite to your expert medical opinion.I choose not to shit in my pants daily and live in fear.Try it, it's actually good for your health and mental well being.Toodle pip Chaps. I find cycling and listening to music (not at the same time, I just can't get on being out with earphones in) good for my mental wellbeing. I find listening/reading to the words of unqualified conspiracy theorists making up their own facts and ignoring the opinions of highly qualified and experienced scientific and medical experts about a dangerous, highly infectious invisible virus bad for my mental health.As I said, we are all going to die one day nudga - even you. Some people will do that knowing they have done all they can to keep as many people as possible health and safe. Some wont.Have a good evening.
China has only ever had one wave of infections, which is really strange considering covid origins
SS.With respect, you're missing the massive point.We all hope that Omicron is milder. But even if it only puts people in hospital at half the rate of Delta, if it infects 10 times as many people over the next month, that's still a lot more hospital cases.THAT'S the issue that I think people are struggling with. If Omicron cases keep doubling every 2 days from now to Xmas, all the previous daily infections are going to look like a little squiggle at the bottom of the graph in comparison.If that does happen, and that's what's scaring very serious scientists, it doesn't take a very big proportion of those cases to be severe to totally swamp the NHS for two months.
If the wave is going to be so huge why are the Nightingale Hospitals not being readied, genuine question as I have heard no mention of them