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Quote from: bpoolrover on October 13, 2021, 12:47:02 amQuote from: SydneyRover on October 12, 2021, 11:36:24 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on October 12, 2021, 11:30:44 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on October 12, 2021, 05:59:46 pmI wonder why it wasn't part of the winter plan to vaccinate under 16s when the decision was made to open up early to avoid an overload of the hospitals, especially as schools were going back.It will be good to have a full inquiry with full powers as this inquiry has led to many more questions. the government needed the jcvi to give there thoughts before making any such decisionAnd they couldn't ask them because ........................ thought you were going to stop being a knob that lasted longserious question, look who's questioning a bipartisan report headed by the government with dumbass replies oh we don't know that my aunt fanny couldn't have done better, you're a self admitted WUM bp, true?
Quote from: SydneyRover on October 12, 2021, 11:36:24 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on October 12, 2021, 11:30:44 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on October 12, 2021, 05:59:46 pmI wonder why it wasn't part of the winter plan to vaccinate under 16s when the decision was made to open up early to avoid an overload of the hospitals, especially as schools were going back.It will be good to have a full inquiry with full powers as this inquiry has led to many more questions. the government needed the jcvi to give there thoughts before making any such decisionAnd they couldn't ask them because ........................ thought you were going to stop being a knob that lasted long
Quote from: bpoolrover on October 12, 2021, 11:30:44 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on October 12, 2021, 05:59:46 pmI wonder why it wasn't part of the winter plan to vaccinate under 16s when the decision was made to open up early to avoid an overload of the hospitals, especially as schools were going back.It will be good to have a full inquiry with full powers as this inquiry has led to many more questions. the government needed the jcvi to give there thoughts before making any such decisionAnd they couldn't ask them because ........................
Quote from: SydneyRover on October 12, 2021, 05:59:46 pmI wonder why it wasn't part of the winter plan to vaccinate under 16s when the decision was made to open up early to avoid an overload of the hospitals, especially as schools were going back.It will be good to have a full inquiry with full powers as this inquiry has led to many more questions. the government needed the jcvi to give there thoughts before making any such decision
I wonder why it wasn't part of the winter plan to vaccinate under 16s when the decision was made to open up early to avoid an overload of the hospitals, especially as schools were going back.It will be good to have a full inquiry with full powers as this inquiry has led to many more questions.
To be fair to Corbyn, he was well ahead of the Govt at the start of the crisis.On 13 March 2020, he called for the Govt to measures such as those in Italy and France - didn't have a name then but we later called it "lockdown".On 14 March he called for the Govt to guarantee income of those who were isolating. Didn't have a name then but we later called it "furlough".And this isn't a party political issue. At the same time, Jeremy Hunt was loudly saying he thought we were making a big mistake in not bringing in Italy-style measures.The line that people are criticising only with hindsight is clearly wrong. There's two examples of the Govt being called out as wrong at the time.And the claim that no one could have done any better is equally blown out of the water by those examples.But if people want to excuse Johnson and his team, they will cling to those claims.
Quote from: SydneyRover on October 13, 2021, 01:43:04 amQuote from: bpoolrover on October 13, 2021, 12:47:02 amQuote from: SydneyRover on October 12, 2021, 11:36:24 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on October 12, 2021, 11:30:44 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on October 12, 2021, 05:59:46 pmI wonder why it wasn't part of the winter plan to vaccinate under 16s when the decision was made to open up early to avoid an overload of the hospitals, especially as schools were going back.It will be good to have a full inquiry with full powers as this inquiry has led to many more questions. the government needed the jcvi to give there thoughts before making any such decisionAnd they couldn't ask them because ........................ thought you were going to stop being a knob that lasted longserious question, look who's questioning a bipartisan report headed by the government with dumbass replies oh we don't know that my aunt fanny couldn't have done better, you're a self admitted WUM bp, true? your a self admitted knob as your have said sorry for being, you ask why the government didn't ask jcvi could you show me proof please that they didn't ask them? I await a you asking me a question back and not supplying any proof as ever xxxx
And once again, a sensible discussion about the avoidable deaths of tens of thousands of people, and the avoidable loss of tens of billions of pounds of our wealth evaporates because BB wants to make it a personal fight. Like Groundhog Day all over again.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on October 13, 2021, 07:54:51 pmAnd once again, a sensible discussion about the avoidable deaths of tens of thousands of people, and the avoidable loss of tens of billions of pounds of our wealth evaporates because BB wants to make it a personal fight. Like Groundhog Day all over again. The funny thing about getting older is your eyesight may weaken, but you can see through people's bullshit much better.
Quote from: bpoolrover on October 13, 2021, 05:42:49 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on October 13, 2021, 01:43:04 amQuote from: bpoolrover on October 13, 2021, 12:47:02 amQuote from: SydneyRover on October 12, 2021, 11:36:24 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on October 12, 2021, 11:30:44 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on October 12, 2021, 05:59:46 pmI wonder why it wasn't part of the winter plan to vaccinate under 16s when the decision was made to open up early to avoid an overload of the hospitals, especially as schools were going back.It will be good to have a full inquiry with full powers as this inquiry has led to many more questions. the government needed the jcvi to give there thoughts before making any such decisionAnd they couldn't ask them because ........................ thought you were going to stop being a knob that lasted longserious question, look who's questioning a bipartisan report headed by the government with dumbass replies oh we don't know that my aunt fanny couldn't have done better, you're a self admitted WUM bp, true? your a self admitted knob as your have said sorry for being, you ask why the government didn't ask jcvi could you show me proof please that they didn't ask them? I await a you asking me a question back and not supplying any proof as ever xxxxI'm sorry I can't help you with your comprehension bp, I said I would moderate my replies, I didn't say anything about suffering fools at all. You just keep on believing.''Labour councils in England hit harder by austerity than Tory areasExclusive: analysis by Guardian and Sigoma shows poorer, Labour-held areas lost over a third of spending power''https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jun/21/exclusive-labour-councils-in-england-hit-harder-by-austerity-than-tory-areas
Numbers not very good this week hopefully it will be due to universities going back as the test numbers have gone up
Quote from: bpoolrover on October 14, 2021, 04:21:29 pmNumbers not very good this week hopefully it will be due to universities going back as the test numbers have gone up Unfortunately I don't think that's the case Bpool. Most Universities went back 3+weeks ago. Daily test numbers are down nealy 10% since then, but positive cases have been going up steadily for 3 weeks now. And it's clearly not just young people who are now getting infected. Hopsitalisations and daily deaths have now definitely bottomed out and are both rising - and will almost certainly continue to do so at least for the rest of this month, because of the big rise in cases that we are still having, which will very likely lead to more hospitalisations and more deaths. This is still the consequence of not getting hold of the Delta outbreak in April and May. We've now accepted that something around 1000 avoidable deaths a week is acceptable for the foreseeable future.
Not sure what uni your kids are at Bpool, but barring Oxford and a few of the other very old Unis, most started teaching on 27 September. Certainly here in Sheffield students were rocking up (and socialising) a good bit before then.Plus, most universities publish the number of confirmed cases among students and staff.Here's a handful. No sign of any large outbreak at any of them.https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/coronavirus/covid-19-statisticshttps://www.manchester.ac.uk/coronavirus/cases/https://www.bristol.ac.uk/coronavirus/statistics/https://www.nottingham.ac.uk/coronavirus/covid-19-active-case-statistics.aspxI suspect the high number of cases is the consequence of spreads in schools, which are now getting out into the wider community.Lancaster uni, and yes I'm sure the kids are the main source but again there off in a week or 2 so that will help reduce the numbers, but as you say the government and many people have accepted that having high numbers but freedom is the way to go
Yes but we did test more than a million today so that is a hundred thousand more than were last week which again ties in with some uni going back, the kids are off for a week soon so hopefully that will bring the numbers down more
This week there has been over a million tests 3 times and it's the first time there has been over a million done since 27th September, might have nothing to do with it but you never know, the numbers I saw for 6th October were 990k
Quote from: bpoolrover on October 14, 2021, 09:52:44 pmThis week there has been over a million tests 3 times and it's the first time there has been over a million done since 27th September, might have nothing to do with it but you never know, the numbers I saw for 6th October were 990kNot according to the official numbers.https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/testing
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on October 14, 2021, 10:41:28 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on October 14, 2021, 09:52:44 pmThis week there has been over a million tests 3 times and it's the first time there has been over a million done since 27th September, might have nothing to do with it but you never know, the numbers I saw for 6th October were 990kNot according to the official numbers.https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/testing 6th October total 990k?