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The Black Death in the mid 14th century is estimated to have decimated half of Europe’s population. Although the pop then would have been significantly less that what it is now.
Quote from: normal rules on April 05, 2021, 01:26:12 pmThe Black Death in the mid 14th century is estimated to have decimated half of Europe’s population. Although the pop then would have been significantly less that what it is now.Black Death was Bacterial, not Viral, Black Death will never return in great numbers due to ant-biotics
If you are trying to control a pandemic spready primarily to person to person contact - why on earth are you allowing 8000 tourists A DAY into the country.It's illegal for UK citizens to travel around our own country - but fine for foreign tourists - absolutely bonkers.Must be true btw, its in the Daily Mail:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9436555/8-000-foreign-tourists-allowed-UK-DAY.html
Really important thread here on how the COVID epidemic ends.https://mobile.twitter.com/CT_Bergstrom/status/1378741101620654080Since R0 was about 3-4, we reach Herd Immunity when about 70% of the population has been vaccinated. That's likely to be not before about July. And what this Tweet thread says is that it is vital that we don't allow numbers to go up dramatically before then. Keep on top of things until then and we should be nearly there.Then those who chose not to get vaccinated can thank the rest of us when things start to return to normal.
NR, whether the flights are full is a different thing, but the Airlines will fly the most attractive routes so as not to lose their slots. If you remember BA were part of a hoo hah when their pilots were on about or went on strike and the other airlines wanted to take over their favourable slots, especially on the Atlantic crossings. If they don't fill them I think they are auctioned off for big bucks
Apparently the vaccines were our route out of this, now our route out of this is twice weekly testing. Matt Hancock.Funny that. They don't want this to end.
some good news coming out of the US with those/some with long covid have recovered within days of having the vaccine, don't know which vaccine.
Quote from: SydneyRover on April 06, 2021, 09:22:48 amsome good news coming out of the US with those/some with long covid have recovered within days of having the vaccine, don't know which vaccine.Mine's got worse.
Quote from: SydneyRover on April 06, 2021, 09:22:48 amsome good news coming out of the US with those/some with long covid have recovered within days of having the vaccine, don't know which vaccine.Suspicion would be moderna Syd, Glyn hope you perk up soon fella
Interesting stat on the news tonight re AZ and blood clots. You are as likely to die from an AZ related clot as you are to be killed on a 250 mile car trip or a long haul flight.
Quote from: normal rules on April 08, 2021, 07:17:38 pmInteresting stat on the news tonight re AZ and blood clots. You are as likely to die from an AZ related clot as you are to be killed on a 250 mile car trip or a long haul flight. I assume this was meant humourously, but given the fervid state of debate on this topic, it might be worth you clarifying that.
Quote from: drfchound on April 08, 2021, 07:34:51 pmQuote from: normal rules on April 08, 2021, 07:17:38 pmInteresting stat on the news tonight re AZ and blood clots. You are as likely to die from an AZ related clot as you are to be killed on a 250 mile car trip or a long haul flight.Some of those stats are variable by age though.As for being killed on a 250 mile car journey, it equates to one person in a million which is the same odds a someone being struck by lightning.Compare that risk against say people aged 55 dying from Coronavirus which is 800 in a million.For someone aged 25 the potential is for 23 people in a million to die.Clearly the odds of dying from a blood clot after having the AZ vaccine are much less.
Quote from: normal rules on April 08, 2021, 07:17:38 pmInteresting stat on the news tonight re AZ and blood clots. You are as likely to die from an AZ related clot as you are to be killed on a 250 mile car trip or a long haul flight.Some of those stats are variable by age though.As for being killed on a 250 mile car journey, it equates to one person in a million which is the same odds a someone being struck by lightning.Compare that risk against say people aged 55 dying from Coronavirus which is 800 in a million.For someone aged 25 the potential is for 23 people in a million to die.Clearly the odds of dying from a blood clot after having the AZ vaccine are much less.
I don't think the reference to the 250 mile car trip is anything to do with being killed in an accident, it's to do with developing deep vein thrombosis blood clots, as with a long haul flight.