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Germany now taking in #COVID19 acute cases from France & Italy into its ICUsDamn EU solidarity. It also has a higher testing rate/fewer deaths than the UK.Perhaps something to do with a well-funded health service combined with a competent Government focused on saving lives?
Bad and sad but not massive increase day on day?
It looks as if the German way of testing is considered to be wrong in Germany and they are wanting to turn to the method used in the UK.
In the German news papers criticising the government.
https://twitter.com/imartincorena/status/1245696648040374272?s=21An interesting thread.
Quote from: GazLaz on April 02, 2020, 03:05:11 pmhttps://twitter.com/imartincorena/status/1245696648040374272?s=21An interesting thread. It is interesting. Whilst the need for testing of medical workers is obvious, I'm not sure it is important for anyone else.The bigger issue for me is people going out. I run most days, only time I'm leaving the house at the moment. It is noticeable over the last 2 weeks that it is getting busier about and many more cars on the road than previous. I do feel after a week or so some are relaxing etc.I've also seen people meeting in the street hugging etc amongst other things, the real danger is not government it is us.
Billy the Der Speigel news paper is quite slating, reporting a 17,000 shortage of nurses a health system that is getting over run, having a three tier care system based on the severity of the patient, the health workers being short of equipment, and frightened for their own well being, much the same as here.
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on April 02, 2020, 03:28:40 pmQuote from: GazLaz on April 02, 2020, 03:05:11 pmhttps://twitter.com/imartincorena/status/1245696648040374272?s=21An interesting thread. It is interesting. Whilst the need for testing of medical workers is obvious, I'm not sure it is important for anyone else.The bigger issue for me is people going out. I run most days, only time I'm leaving the house at the moment. It is noticeable over the last 2 weeks that it is getting busier about and many more cars on the road than previous. I do feel after a week or so some are relaxing etc.I've also seen people meeting in the street hugging etc amongst other things, the real danger is not government it is us.I agree totally with your point on health workers. Those who are self-isolating may not have it and could then return to work.As far as the general population are concerned, testing is only useful if you THINK you might have the virus, in which case you should be self isolating, or if someone in your family has it. Otherwise I could be tested tomorrow and test negative but catch the virus the day after.
So, china have as near as dammit stopped this thing, are they lieing through their teeth over numbers, or actually performed miracles considering how we know how they respect hygiene?
There's no point in a vaccine for THIS virus. The vaccine angle is a mindless exercise unless it's going to be sold as a pointless but profitable mass vaccination across the world, or if they think they can adapt what they have for future versions of covid19.
So much unkown about this - deaths, cases, initial cases, testing quality, testing numbers, how deaths are counted, how all that varies massively country too country etc etc. It'll be sometime before a coherent real picture emerges, and meanwhile all kinds of organisations, individuals and governments will be casting various levels of certainty on it when they know very little. It's a hugely changing picture on every level.re Sweden - it seems they are about to hit the downslope on their critical care new admissions. See chart about half way down the page here:https://www.icuregswe.org/en/data--results/covid-19-in-swedish-intensive-care/ Ultimately everyone will get the virus, more or less, maybe those in extreme isolation for the next few months can avoid it.There's no point in a vaccine for THIS virus. The vaccine angle is a mindless exercise unless it's going to be sold as a pointless but profitable mass vaccination across the world, or if they think they can adapt what they have for future versions of covid19.