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Is it right that a bloke who tests positive for covid and is then recovering, three weeks later dies in a car crash and he is put down as a covid death? (Fact)
Are we having 160 discharged COVID patients a day walking in front of cars then?Or in fact are we having any?
... Quote from: normal rules on November 02, 2021, 08:00:01 amIs it right that a bloke who tests positive for covid and is then recovering, three weeks later dies in a car crash and he is put down as a covid death? (Fact).... on the other hand { not a fact ) what happens to the same bloke who tests positive for covid and is then recovering, and after 29 or 30 days or even later, doesnt get run over or is in a crash but dies at home or elsewhere Where if anywhere does his death get attributed to cos more people, many more WILL simply die "after 28 days" than "get killed" within the initial 28 day period140,000 may be much higher maybe (still not a fact)
For me if you did of injuries due to covid after 28 days it should be counted as dying of covid it's ridiculous not to, but on the other side just because you have covid many do not die of it, I know of any cases where unfortunately covid has been brought into hospitals where sadly people have been on end of life care, they have caught covid and died, now they should not be counted as covid
On the subject of the effectiveness of the vaccines, this looks pretty convincing to me;https://twitter.com/ONS/status/1455105074619985920Get a jab, as soon as you can....that's it!
Seriously. Those of you who have gone down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole. This winter is going to be f**king rough for those who aren't vaccinated. Just go and get f**king jabbed. You can still insist you haven't on here if you want. Just do it for your own sakes.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 02, 2021, 10:02:07 pmSeriously. Those of you who have gone down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole. This winter is going to be f**king rough for those who aren't vaccinated. Just go and get f**king jabbed. You can still insist you haven't on here if you want. Just do it for your own sakes.And if I come out of this winter alive, fit and healthy like I did last winter, what kind of guff will you spew out then?
Quote from: Nudga on November 02, 2021, 10:35:50 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 02, 2021, 10:02:07 pmSeriously. Those of you who have gone down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole. This winter is going to be f**king rough for those who aren't vaccinated. Just go and get f**king jabbed. You can still insist you haven't on here if you want. Just do it for your own sakes.And if I come out of this winter alive, fit and healthy like I did last winter, what kind of guff will you spew out then? I'll congratulate you on playing 1-in-100 Russian Roulette and winning.
Has there been a duo like this since Morecombe and Wise?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 02, 2021, 10:43:31 pmQuote from: Nudga on November 02, 2021, 10:35:50 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 02, 2021, 10:02:07 pmSeriously. Those of you who have gone down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole. This winter is going to be f**king rough for those who aren't vaccinated. Just go and get f**king jabbed. You can still insist you haven't on here if you want. Just do it for your own sakes.And if I come out of this winter alive, fit and healthy like I did last winter, what kind of guff will you spew out then? I'll congratulate you on playing 1-in-100 Russian Roulette and winning.It is his choice to play that roulette though isn't it?
Quote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 03, 2021, 10:23:28 amQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 02, 2021, 10:43:31 pmQuote from: Nudga on November 02, 2021, 10:35:50 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 02, 2021, 10:02:07 pmSeriously. Those of you who have gone down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole. This winter is going to be f**king rough for those who aren't vaccinated. Just go and get f**king jabbed. You can still insist you haven't on here if you want. Just do it for your own sakes.And if I come out of this winter alive, fit and healthy like I did last winter, what kind of guff will you spew out then? I'll congratulate you on playing 1-in-100 Russian Roulette and winning.It is his choice to play that roulette though isn't it? And his choice to catch the virus as a result of not being vaccinated, perhaps pass it on to a loved one who doesn’t happen to have his ‘Super Human’ powers to keep ‘dodging a bullet’ & as a result dies gasping for breath in an overcrowded covid ward?I wouldn’t wish that on a loved one of his (or him either) but his ‘F**k you Jack I’m alright’ stance is ignorant, selfish & dangerous.
Quote from: Colin C No.3 on November 03, 2021, 02:03:49 pmQuote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 03, 2021, 10:23:28 amQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 02, 2021, 10:43:31 pmQuote from: Nudga on November 02, 2021, 10:35:50 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 02, 2021, 10:02:07 pmSeriously. Those of you who have gone down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole. This winter is going to be f**king rough for those who aren't vaccinated. Just go and get f**king jabbed. You can still insist you haven't on here if you want. Just do it for your own sakes.And if I come out of this winter alive, fit and healthy like I did last winter, what kind of guff will you spew out then? I'll congratulate you on playing 1-in-100 Russian Roulette and winning.It is his choice to play that roulette though isn't it? And his choice to catch the virus as a result of not being vaccinated, perhaps pass it on to a loved one who doesn’t happen to have his ‘Super Human’ powers to keep ‘dodging a bullet’ & as a result dies gasping for breath in an overcrowded covid ward?I wouldn’t wish that on a loved one of his (or him either) but his ‘F**k you Jack I’m alright’ stance is ignorant, selfish & dangerous.f**k ME!! FOR THE LAST TIME!! VACCINATED PEOPLE ARE JUST AS INFECTIOUS AND CAN CATCH COVID THE SAME AS AN UNVACCINATED PERSON! LEARN AND ACCEPT.
Quote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 03, 2021, 10:23:28 amQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 02, 2021, 10:43:31 pmQuote from: Nudga on November 02, 2021, 10:35:50 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 02, 2021, 10:02:07 pmSeriously. Those of you who have gone down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole. This winter is going to be f**king rough for those who aren't vaccinated. Just go and get f**king jabbed. You can still insist you haven't on here if you want. Just do it for your own sakes.And if I come out of this winter alive, fit and healthy like I did last winter, what kind of guff will you spew out then? I'll congratulate you on playing 1-in-100 Russian Roulette and winning.It is his choice to play that roulette though isn't it? And his choice to catch the virus as a result of not being vaccinated, perhaps pass it on to a loved one who doesn’t happen to have his ‘Super Human’ powers to keep ‘dodging a bullet’ & as a result dies gasping for breath in an overcrowded covid ward?I wouldn’t wish that on a loved one of his (or him either) but his ‘F**k you Jack I’m alright’ stance is ignorant, selfish & dangerous.
Quote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 03, 2021, 02:34:06 pmQuote from: Colin C No.3 on November 03, 2021, 02:03:49 pmQuote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 03, 2021, 10:23:28 amQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 02, 2021, 10:43:31 pmQuote from: Nudga on November 02, 2021, 10:35:50 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 02, 2021, 10:02:07 pmSeriously. Those of you who have gone down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole. This winter is going to be f**king rough for those who aren't vaccinated. Just go and get f**king jabbed. You can still insist you haven't on here if you want. Just do it for your own sakes.And if I come out of this winter alive, fit and healthy like I did last winter, what kind of guff will you spew out then? I'll congratulate you on playing 1-in-100 Russian Roulette and winning.It is his choice to play that roulette though isn't it? And his choice to catch the virus as a result of not being vaccinated, perhaps pass it on to a loved one who doesn’t happen to have his ‘Super Human’ powers to keep ‘dodging a bullet’ & as a result dies gasping for breath in an overcrowded covid ward?I wouldn’t wish that on a loved one of his (or him either) but his ‘F**k you Jack I’m alright’ stance is ignorant, selfish & dangerous.f**k ME!! FOR THE LAST TIME!! VACCINATED PEOPLE ARE JUST AS INFECTIOUS AND CAN CATCH COVID THE SAME AS AN UNVACCINATED PERSON! LEARN AND ACCEPT.But are less likely to suffer serious illness or end up in ICU
Quote from: ravenrover on November 03, 2021, 03:15:42 pmQuote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 03, 2021, 02:34:06 pmQuote from: Colin C No.3 on November 03, 2021, 02:03:49 pmQuote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 03, 2021, 10:23:28 amQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 02, 2021, 10:43:31 pmQuote from: Nudga on November 02, 2021, 10:35:50 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 02, 2021, 10:02:07 pmSeriously. Those of you who have gone down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole. This winter is going to be f**king rough for those who aren't vaccinated. Just go and get f**king jabbed. You can still insist you haven't on here if you want. Just do it for your own sakes.And if I come out of this winter alive, fit and healthy like I did last winter, what kind of guff will you spew out then? I'll congratulate you on playing 1-in-100 Russian Roulette and winning.It is his choice to play that roulette though isn't it? And his choice to catch the virus as a result of not being vaccinated, perhaps pass it on to a loved one who doesn’t happen to have his ‘Super Human’ powers to keep ‘dodging a bullet’ & as a result dies gasping for breath in an overcrowded covid ward?I wouldn’t wish that on a loved one of his (or him either) but his ‘F**k you Jack I’m alright’ stance is ignorant, selfish & dangerous.f**k ME!! FOR THE LAST TIME!! VACCINATED PEOPLE ARE JUST AS INFECTIOUS AND CAN CATCH COVID THE SAME AS AN UNVACCINATED PERSON! LEARN AND ACCEPT.But are less likely to suffer serious illness or end up in ICUSo? That's why we have the NHS. Or at least had.
Quote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 03, 2021, 02:34:06 pmQuote from: Colin C No.3 on November 03, 2021, 02:03:49 pmQuote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 03, 2021, 10:23:28 amQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 02, 2021, 10:43:31 pmQuote from: Nudga on November 02, 2021, 10:35:50 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 02, 2021, 10:02:07 pmSeriously. Those of you who have gone down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole. This winter is going to be f**king rough for those who aren't vaccinated. Just go and get f**king jabbed. You can still insist you haven't on here if you want. Just do it for your own sakes.And if I come out of this winter alive, fit and healthy like I did last winter, what kind of guff will you spew out then? I'll congratulate you on playing 1-in-100 Russian Roulette and winning.It is his choice to play that roulette though isn't it? And his choice to catch the virus as a result of not being vaccinated, perhaps pass it on to a loved one who doesn’t happen to have his ‘Super Human’ powers to keep ‘dodging a bullet’ & as a result dies gasping for breath in an overcrowded covid ward?I wouldn’t wish that on a loved one of his (or him either) but his ‘F**k you Jack I’m alright’ stance is ignorant, selfish & dangerous.f**k ME!! FOR THE LAST TIME!! VACCINATED PEOPLE ARE JUST AS INFECTIOUS AND CAN CATCH COVID THE SAME AS AN UNVACCINATED PERSON! LEARN AND ACCEPT.But are less likely to suffer serious illness or end up in ICU
Quote from: Colin C No.3 on November 03, 2021, 02:03:49 pmQuote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 03, 2021, 10:23:28 amQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 02, 2021, 10:43:31 pmQuote from: Nudga on November 02, 2021, 10:35:50 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 02, 2021, 10:02:07 pmSeriously. Those of you who have gone down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole. This winter is going to be f**king rough for those who aren't vaccinated. Just go and get f**king jabbed. You can still insist you haven't on here if you want. Just do it for your own sakes.And if I come out of this winter alive, fit and healthy like I did last winter, what kind of guff will you spew out then? I'll congratulate you on playing 1-in-100 Russian Roulette and winning.It is his choice to play that roulette though isn't it? And his choice to catch the virus as a result of not being vaccinated, perhaps pass it on to a loved one who doesn’t happen to have his ‘Super Human’ powers to keep ‘dodging a bullet’ & as a result dies gasping for breath in an overcrowded covid ward?I wouldn’t wish that on a loved one of his (or him either) but his ‘F**k you Jack I’m alright’ stance is ignorant, selfish & dangerous.f**k ME!! FOR THE LAST TIME!! VACCINATED PEOPLE ARE JUST AS INFECTIOUS AND CAN CATCH COVID THE SAME AS AN UNVACCINATED PERSON! LEARN AND ACCEPT.
Quote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 03, 2021, 10:23:28 amQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 02, 2021, 10:43:31 pmQuote from: Nudga on November 02, 2021, 10:35:50 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 02, 2021, 10:02:07 pmSeriously. Those of you who have gone down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole. This winter is going to be f**king rough for those who aren't vaccinated. Just go and get f**king jabbed. You can still insist you haven't on here if you want. Just do it for your own sakes.And if I come out of this winter alive, fit and healthy like I did last winter, what kind of guff will you spew out then? I'll congratulate you on playing 1-in-100 Russian Roulette and winning.It is his choice to play that roulette though isn't it? And his choice to catch the virus as a result of not being vaccinated, perhaps pass it on to a loved one who doesn’t happen to have his ‘Super Human’ powers to keep ‘dodging a bullet’ & as a result dies gasping for breath in an overcrowded covid ward?I wouldn’t wish that on a loved one of his (or him either) but his ‘F**k you Jack I’m alright’ stance is ignorant, selfish & dangerous.
Wrong CDH.1) The vaccine reduces the probability of being infected.2) Among infected people, the vaccine reduces infectivity.It's not a yes/no issue, granted, just as mask wearing doesn't reduce someone's infectivity to zero. But a sensible society stacks the deck in its own interests. Marginal gains.Be a selfish t**t if you want, but don't claim that doesn't have consequences on other people.
I guess that's how an epidemic could kick off again in the UK, another variant possibly?Taking beds in hospital reduces the chances of people on the waiting list getting fixed.
Quote from: SydneyRover on November 03, 2021, 08:55:55 pmI guess that's how an epidemic could kick off again in the UK, another variant possibly?Taking beds in hospital reduces the chances of people on the waiting list getting fixed.People in ICU wards has nothing to do with waithing lists. The facts are both hospitals and doctor's alike have closed for businesses.
Quote from: no eyed deer on November 03, 2021, 09:16:30 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on November 03, 2021, 08:55:55 pmI guess that's how an epidemic could kick off again in the UK, another variant possibly?Taking beds in hospital reduces the chances of people on the waiting list getting fixed.People in ICU wards has nothing to do with waithing lists. The facts are both hospitals and doctor's alike have closed for businesses.Yep that makes perfect sense ned.