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Did you read the link I posted?
Quote from: SydneyRover on July 12, 2022, 12:21:31 pmFortunately the great majority do shake it off nudga and in the beginning scientists would have been thinking that this disease would track in a similar way to others before it, as the evidence changed so did the advice. Vaccines have saved countless lives, as they have done for other diseases.Half truths have to be challenged Syds. Vaccines have also killed and maimed countless lives. They've also made a ton of cash for corporations and the hangers on. We can argue about the numbers of lives saved v lives lost and harmed. You pays your money and makes your choice.
Fortunately the great majority do shake it off nudga and in the beginning scientists would have been thinking that this disease would track in a similar way to others before it, as the evidence changed so did the advice. Vaccines have saved countless lives, as they have done for other diseases.
Quote from: Bristol Red Rover on July 15, 2022, 10:58:00 amQuote from: SydneyRover on July 12, 2022, 12:21:31 pmFortunately the great majority do shake it off nudga and in the beginning scientists would have been thinking that this disease would track in a similar way to others before it, as the evidence changed so did the advice. Vaccines have saved countless lives, as they have done for other diseases.Half truths have to be challenged Syds. Vaccines have also killed and maimed countless lives. They've also made a ton of cash for corporations and the hangers on. We can argue about the numbers of lives saved v lives lost and harmed. You pays your money and makes your choice.I haven't read your posts because I don't agree with the premise of your argument. Define what you mean above. Give me a % of those harmed to lives saved, if you can show they are in any way similar you win.
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Trying to get my fifth vaccine shot (4th booster) before going on holls, I think I'm becoming addicted.
''We now do know there is a very rare and serious risk of clotting disorder thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) from the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine or potentially heart conditions myocarditis or pericarditis from Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, and most importantly, we know how to identify and treat these conditions.These events will usually occur within weeks to at most a few months after vaccination, not years. It took us a little longer to find out about these particular side effects because they’re so rare, and we need to be careful not to confuse “long-term” effects of a vaccine with “so rare it takes a long time to find.”This is true of all medicines as they move from clinical trial populations in the thousands to real-world application in the millions. The urgency of getting the global population vaccinated against COVID-19 means we have been able to very quickly identify these rare side effects, within a matter of months. The frequency of these side effects is still very low, approximately 1 in every 200,000, we are just seeing them in a concentrated timeline''https://www.health.qld.gov.au/news-events/news/long-term-effects-of-vaccines#:~:text=We%20now%20do%20know%20there,to%20identify%20and%20treat%20theseCan't find the exact meaning of what very rare means in % terms Nudga but at a guess I would say it would mean that most people be unlikely to experience it themselves nor personally know someone that did suffer a documented serious permanent side effect or death in their lifetime. That doesn't mean that noone will of course but extremely unlikely.
Three of them hinting at that but none of them (or is that noone) brave enough to say it.
Regarding number 2, I can tell you that the DFP are not interested at all.A friend of mine tried to buy a page size advert with the adverse reactions data from vaers or the yellow card system.The editor wouldn't sanction it.What were they afraid of?